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The way you lot act as if Rhaenyra’s hateful comments about Nettles can’t be read as racist… did you expect Rhaenyra to call her the n-word just to be sure ?? How can that be in doubt when she basically said “she’s too darkie to be a dragon, to be worthy of a dragon or a prince” ? And dehumanizing to the point of calling her a “thing” and “creature” ?

It’s not about Valyrian features (silver hair and purple eyes). Rhaenyra has three dragon riding brown-haired and brown-eyed sons. Rhaenys had black hair. The arguments she constructed to attack Nettles were based on ideological beliefs and prejudices that were strongly founded on racism, classism and blood supremacy. Saying she was stressed because Daemon is cheating accusations is insane because Daemon had been openly having affairs before he met Nettles, but Rhaenyra didn’t cared because Mysaria’s skin is “pale as milk”.

Bozos, you’re not racist for stanning Missy Anne. We all like crazy’s in this fandom (I myself love Daemon’s crazy behind). No one cares if you stan this demented and incompetent Karen. You are racist though for denying her misogynoir, spazzing out and frothing out the mouth to cut Nettles cause the show doesn’t need anymore Black people, and trying to gaslight people into ignoring her bs as well as your own.

Why do Nettles stans never actually read my posts? You all just throw around accusations and say I wrote something that I never did. I'm not even going to try to argue with you, you won't listen to anything I'm saying anyway.

There's no reason to try to debate people who don't respect you enough to actually know what you fucking say. If you don't like Rhaenyra, cool, leave me alone though. If you have an issue with what I've said about Nettles, try bringing up something I've said.

I've never said that Rhaenyra saying slurs against Nettles isn't racist, I've said that I don't believe she actually said it to begin with. I've never said that I'm glad Nettles isn't going to be in the show, in fact I think cutting her out is stupid (though I do think her character would be butchered just like everyone else's on that shit show). Yeah, Rhaenyra ordering Nettles' execution was unjust, I've literally only ever said that her doing that stems from the paranoia and loss Rhaenyra went through. That's not the same thing as justifying what she did, but I do believe her orders had nothing to do with race and that she didn't say racial slurs.

I'm done interacting with Nettles stans, no of you bother actually addressing my arguments. You guys just accuse people you disagree with of being racist without actually knowing what they're saying. You've made up your mind about Rhaenyra, fine, but leave me the fuck alone, block me if you hate what I say so much jfc.

Apparently nettles was meant to have either had an affair with Daemon or been his child or whatever he was very close to her regardless so there was something going on there

Why are people denying this aspect

Yeah, in F&B there's speculation over whether Daemon and Nettles were lovers or father and daughter. I'm honestly inclined to think the latter, not just because I'm a diehard daemyra shipper, but also because I don't think sleeping with Nettles fits Daemon's character, especially in regards to Rhaenyra.

Daemon seems to have a close relationship with all his children in F&B. So it makes sense that he'd try to prioritize Nettles as much as he could with the war going on if we go with the daughter theory. Daemon is also rather protective of his family, so him wanting to be close to at least one of his children during the war and protecting her also makes sense. I like to think that, if the war hadn't happened and Nettles still tamed Sheepstealer, she'd integrate nicely into daemyra's blended family.

I see a lot of Rhaenyra fans tend to want to minimize Nettles involvement with Daemon, but that's purely because the Nettles stans and Daemon x Nettles shippers act so insufferable. I honestly think Nettles is an interesting character, I wish that we could've had a show that does all the characters well, so maybe we'd have a chance to see more of her outside all the prejudices and rumors of Westeros. But, since it appears she won't be in the show at all, I can't say I'm too disappointed, as I know Nettles would be fucked over, just like the rest of her generation of Targaryens. It's basically the same feeling that I'm kinda relieved that the show is being so rushed so it'll be over soon.

If Nettles was white, she would be as popular as Lyanna, Brienne or Arya, and y’all know it.

She grew up a homeless orphan (which is why it’s so insulting when people try to act like she’s a freaking idiot who doesn’t know how to bathe herself yet she can tame a dragon🤦🏽‍♀️ Put most of the highborn women in her position and they wouldn’t survive a day in her shoes).

She’s the only known non-Valyrian dragonrider who claims a wild dragon. A prince who believes in Valyrian supremacy falls in love with her to the point where he’s willing to sacrifice his life for her. Nettles singlehandedly disproves the whole idea of Targaryen exceptionalism and their blood purity. She slowly earns a dragon’s trust by bringing him sheep, and gradually he lets her closer, and then forms the dragonrider bond and lets her fly. up until this point, nobody had tried a strategy like that before.

Nettles is self-made. She’s self-taught. She’s loved for herself. She survives a freaking war and becomes a fire goddess/witch. Who wouldn’t want her ? Who wouldn’t want to be her ? Unlike Rhaenyra and Alicent, she’s the final girl of F&B.

Once again, I don't understand where you got that I'm anti Nettles? I'm anti Nettles x Daemon, but other than that theory, I very much am a fan of Nettles as a character. I won't say that there isn't racism and unfairness that happen regarding Nettles' character (though I haven't seen it personally), because people can be really shitty. But me personally, again, I'm not anti Nettles, I just dislike certain groups of her stans.

Again, I don't deny that Nettles was a strong woman. She endured many things most characters in F&B don't and most likely survived the Dance. However, I do disagree with some of the ideas you're stating as fact.

For starters, we don't know if Nettles is non-Valyrian; that's one of the many theories surrounding her, but it's not confirmed, so stating it as fact is misleading. Just because she lacks traditional Valyrian features doesn't means she isn't a dragonseed.

Jace and his brothers don't look Valyrian but they very obviously are of Valyrian descent. Rhaenys, the queen who never was, had black hair; Duncan the son of Aegon V looked like his mother, Betha Blackwood; Aegor Rivers also had black hair; Baelor Breakspear had dark hair; Daeron son of Maekar had sandy brown hair; Rhaenys the daughter of Rhaegar had her mother, Elia Martell's features.

Moving on, Daemon's relationship with Nettles is ambiguous. We don't know if they were in a romantic relationship or if his attack on Aemond was purely to save her (though I'm sure that was part of his decision). Again, you are stating a theory you believe as fact, even though it's unconfirmed.

I'm not going to touch the whole thing of Targaryen exceptionalism, because, as I said earlier, Nettles' parentage is unconfirmed. But the whole blood purity thing still hasn't been disproven at any point of GRRM's works; they intermarried to preserve their magic blood, the magic blood still exists in ASOIAF due to the incest.

Nettles is an important character in the story of the Dance, but she isn't the "final girl" you claim she is, let alone of the whole book. There are several dragon riders who survived the Dance and thrived. Rhaena is the ancestor of the Tyrells in the main series. Aegon III is the ancestor of Daenerys, the Baratheons, any remaining Blackfyres, and possibly Jon Snow and Young Griff. Baela and Alyn are the ancestors of Aurane Waters and the Velaryons.

The book of F&B is so much more than the Dance of the Dragons. Saying that Nettles is the "final girl" of the book doesn't make any sense when she only appears in a few sections. That's like saying Alys Rivers is actually the main character of the book. Nettles disappears after the Dance and doesn't appear in any other event. She does nothing else after her disappearance and has relatively little impact on the history of Westeros post Dance.

I have absolutely no idea where you're getting the whole "fire goddess/witch" thing. However, you have already been throwing out theories and your personal biases as fact, so I don't think it matters. I'm not trying to control who your fav is, I totally understand wanting to be a certain book character. But that doesn't mean you can act like everyone else is wrong for not having the same fav as you.

It's that kind of entitlement, thinking you're better than everyone else that makes people not like Nettles stans. It's almost on par with stansas and Alicent stans. People like you project so hard onto your favs, you take any perceived insult, critique, or argument as a personal attack. It's exhausting interacting with people like you.

People who stan minor characters can be some of the most annoying groups ever. Because they're not just enjoying a character, or even stanning a character who doesn't have a lot of relevance, they're pissed off that the main characters are more important in the story.

Last week, I answered an ask from a Nettles stans who was saying the reason Nettles isn't as popular as Lyanna, Brienne or Arya is because she's not white. One thing I didn't talk about in my response to that was how unrealistic of an expectation it is for Nettles to be as popular as characters like the women they mentioned.

Nettles is a minor player in the story of the Dance; she's not unimportant, but she's also not one of the main characters. On top of that, Nettles doesn't do anything after Daemon's death, she disappears for the rest of F&B, unlike characters like Baela and Rhaena. As for the main series, Nettles isn't even mentioned once.

So how does it make sense to complain about how she isn't as popular as characters who are actually in the main series? Arya and Brienne are both pov characters; Arya is also one of the main five and one of GRRM's favorite characters. Lyanna may not have any pov chapters, what with being dead by the events of ASOIAF, but she permeates the narrative and her past actions still affect the plot.

Lyanna, Brienne, and Arya are very popular characters because we interact with them a lot in the books. They have established personalities, we the readers know them in a way we simply don't know characters like Nettles.

Now I'm not saying it's wrong or bad to like side characters, even ones we don't know a lot about. Shit, I love Nettles, she's an interesting and exciting character. But the problem arises when people act like their character more deserving of interest just because you like them.

No matter what changes that could be made to Nettles without changing the story, she will still be a minor character in one section of F&B. It's not surprising that she's not as popular as characters who are well known and more impactful. Acting like it's a moral failing that Nettles isn't as popular as fucking ridiculous.

It's not just Nettles stans who do this, but they're the ones at the forefront of my mind. Basically: stop bitching about how your fav is a minor character with few established traits and therefore less popular than those who aren't minor.