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Could Undertaker be Cedric K. Rose? In Victorian times, women adopted the surnames of their husbands when they got married. Claudia Phantomhive should have taken for herself the surname of her husband, but she didn't. Why? Maybe she had something to hide? Cedric could be in that time a Shinigami, and Vincent, their child, adopted the surname of his mother (and, of course, the genetic inheritance. He could have been half-Shinigami!)
This is crazy, but it could be that the Queen knew about the marriage of Claudia and the Shinigami, and she thought to give to Phantomhive family the responsibility of take care about supernatural stuff. But I haven’t read all the manga yet… What do you think? (Sorry for my bad English :S)
Hi, that’s a very interesting point you’re bringing up and not crazy at all. ;)In chapter 103 we can see part of Ciel’s family tree.
So we can be certain that Vincent’s father was Cedric K. Ros… I know there are theories that Undertaker could be that person and therefore Vincent’s father. He has Claudia’s locket and seems to have had a good relationship with Vincent. And he seems to care for Ciel and he entrusted him with the funeral lockets that he called his “treasure”. Also, the German shinigami implied that Ciel’s lineage is somehow special (which may be the reason why he can see shinigami).All of this could be explained if Undertaker really is Cedric and Vincent and Ciel are partial shinigami.
On the other hand I’m not sure if shinigami even can have children since they represent the exact opposite of life and are technically dead already (see chapter 105; I won’t go too much into this since you said you haven’t read everything yet and I don’t want to spoiler you.)
So I think it’s possible that Undertaker is Vincent’s father though I’m still hesitant and there are still too many uncertainties to be sure about it.
That’s right with the surnames. Especially back then it was very uncommon for a woman to pass on her surname. Also, in chapter 2 Ciel said that the Phantomhive ring has witnessed the death of many masters including his grandfather:
I don’t know how much of the plot was planned in chapter 2 (or it could be a translation issue) so this could mean nothing. But it implies that there was a male Earl Phantomhive at Claudia’s side. So here’s what I think could be possible:Claudia was married to a Phantomhive and that’s where she has gotten her surname from. But then she had an affair with Cedric and got pregnant with Vincent. Claudia’s husband never knew about it and so Vincent inherited the earldom. Maybe Frances and Vincent even have different fathers and that’s why Frances doesn’t appear in the family tree.
So if Undertaker is Cedric there’s a chance that only he knows the truth about him being Ciel’s grandfather and that’s why he always is/was around Vincent and Ciel.
I like your idea that the Queen may know about that, too. I’m not sure how she would have gotten that information but the Queen seems to know many things and assuming that she has ties to shinigami as well (John Brown?) it’s possible that she knows. Undertaker once said that he doesn’t like the Queen. Maybe that’s a clue.
Y'all KNOW how emotional I am about UT and my baby Ciel..
WHY YOU GOTTA DO THIS TO ME??
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(I edited this stuff after smelling the Undertaker X Claudia vibe in the Ch104, so…)