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Former friend of SBN3 did an an AMA😭
Tldr he doesn't like the fanbase because he's some weird dude who accidentally created the suburban lesbian bible. He intentionally sabotaged the game so people stop liking the series now
Pretty much if we start hating Class of 09 he wins lmao
I’m unfortunately talking about the flip side again (I can smell the comments now so I’m is gonna say I’m joking when I say unfortunately. I’m talking about it because I want to, not because I think it’s necessary. If I relish thoguht the game was THAT terrible, i wouldn’t put effort into talking about it)
So I made a post on TikTok about this game and how bad it was, and I wanted to talk about some of the comments I got/saw under other posts.
1. “This game was from Jeckas perspective, that’s why everything was so out of character and different”
I find this to be a dumb counterclaim for a few reasons. One: the only different thing we see was how Nicole treated Jecka during that foot ending + the Jeffrey dying ending. every other character,personality, setting, style was the same. Nicole had similar references to pedophilia and men, Jeffrey literally liked feet in the re up and it’s just carried over, the teachers being freaks, Ari being a girl kisser, Emily being a druggie, everything was the same besides Nicole in BOTH foot routes.
2. “Every character acted different, they were just showing their true selves.”
I also find this to be a dumb counterclaim considering they’ve already had two whole games to show their true selves, and have. Like I said previously, Jefferey still likes feet, Ari is still gay and would kiss any girl, all of the male teachers are still freaky to kids. It would make zero sense to say this game specifically is where they acted like the,selves since we see everyone THE MOST in the re up. It was purely this game that was different.
3. “Nicole is petty/a sociopath, she’d absolutely do that to Jeckas dad”
While I do agree that Nicole is petty and sociopathic, she still wouldn’t have gone that far with Jecka. It’s not a “what she did” argument, it’s a “who she did it to” argument. As my prime example: Ari stole an excuse Nicole commonly used to escape homework, and as a result Nicole mentally and verbally abused her. This small thing Nicole took as an attack turned into Ari literally not dating women again out of fear of abuse. Meanwhile, Jecka wouldn’t let Nicole crash with her when Nicole was homeless, and Nicole just guilt tripped her. This wasn’t necessarily an attack, but Nicole did take it personally. Yet all she did was tell jecka how shitty being homeless was. Plus the aspect of effort. Nicole only seemed to want to put in effort into ruining people’s lives when it came to not knowing or not liking them. Why would she put in all of the effort to ruin Jeckas life not only because it’s Jecka, but also for something so small as not telling her how she got into footwork? I also think people are forgetting what sociopaths are. Sociopaths don’t real,y reel empathy or understand people’s emotions, but that in no way means they can’t form connections or care for those around them. Nicole, while not maybe understanding why Jecka would be upset, still protects her feelings and defends her. So yes, Nicole is a sociopath. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t care about Jecka. This leads me to my next comment.
4. “Nicole doenst actually like Jecka, it was just fun for her”
I fully disagree, point blank period. Nicole clearly cares for her. We see this at LEAST two times. 1: when Nicole literally bullied Jeffery’s to the point of YEAR LONG COUNSELING with the PEDOPHILE TEACHER her gains absolutely NOTHING talking to just so Jecka could smoke without getting gawked at. It benefited her absolutely nothing to do that, but she did it anyways specifically for Jeckas well being. (Even though Nicole and others have stated that Nicole only does stuff when she gains from it.) and the other instance where she helps her steal a CD/ shirt. Again, something that didn’t benefit her in any way, yet she did it FOR Jecka. I’m in no way saying Nicole is a good friend, because she isn’t, I’m saying she cares for jecka at least a little.
5. “The feet endings were on brand for class of 09, it was just shock value.”
to some extent I do agree. Class of 09 was made to shock and uncomfort people, it was the creators intention to make it edgy. However there’s a difference between South Park dark humor edgy (like it’s trying to be) and full on fetishizing. The dark humor aspect of it all wasn’t there in my opinion because it wasn’t even funny, it was JUST weird. I’ve seen some argue that it’s supposed to be that weird, and I get it. But compared to the first two games it was just distasteful. Clsss of 09, and the re up were shocking and weird because you never ever see games talk about how creepy adult men are towards kids or that it’s areal world issue that we’re ignoring. But what was the issue supposed to be in the flip side with the feet endings? That people with foot fetishes exist? Wow so funny guys! But in all seriousness, at first I couldn’t quite place my finger on why this one was different. In both Nicole and Jeckas sex work endings, they experienced weird men obsessed with their bodies, informed the other one of their sex work, made decent money off of it, benefited from it if even just a small amount, and felt disgusted with themselves sooner or later because of it. But then I found out why Nicole’s story was so much more consumable and entertaining. It was because in the end, she accepted her struggle, she realized it fucked her up and she’s coping with it, she’s genuinely trying. But with Jeckas ending Nicole literally gets hired by her dad, purposely makes sure they get caught, and laughs in her face at how pathetic her and her dad are. And then, Jecka kill’s herself. The entire ending was fucked up, even for the usual dark humor edgy aspect of class of 09. I’m not saying the creator should’ve made it funny, beaus he shouldn’t have. Nicole’s ending was bitter, and portrayed as such in a way that was hard to watch but still made you think “wow, that was good,” I’m saying I think it would’ve been better if they didnt show such graphic details of Jeckas sex work. During Nicole’s ending, it was breiefky mentioned what she did, and they went into detail later on. But with jecka, they actively showed if I can remember 4 and a half graphic scenarios of her with these freaks, the weird shit they said to her, and then still showed how happy she was with the money after? This part is probably more opinionated than the rest, but it genuinely felt weird to me how they played this out, and I would’ve personally enjoyed it if they went more in depth about how gross jecka felt about the whole thing instead of just being like “oh yeah, she didn’t like it but her breaking point was her friend doing it to her dad. NOT the selling her body” which was a stupid choice in my eyes considering jecka breaks down to a therapist about how gross she felt. Why only make it sometimes that she feels gross? Why JUST that one part? And then during that therapy session she isn’t taken seriously because how much she makes?? That felt so stale.
So while I guess what I’m saying is it wasn’t technically out of class of 09s boundary set, I’m saying this time they did a shitty job conveying it in a way that was both entertaining, funny, sad, and bittersweet. It was all just bitter.
6. “I liked the game though!”
that’s perfectly fine! I’m glad you enjoyed it and you got your moneys worth. I’m in no way saying everyone has to agree with me, I’m just saying my opinion. If you liked it, good for you, I just personally didn’t. The few moments I did enjoy were the 7 seconds joke, the hatman scene, and the killing Ari route. The rest was kinda meh
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
ok haven’t got through the whole thing but WHAT DID Y’ALL MEAN THIS SHIT AIN’T FUNNY!?
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
jecka stepping on people is a bit outta pocket, but it’s not like the last game wasn’t as bad
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
…i love dark themes but seeing this gave me that… feeling… y’know? THAT feeling…
that feeling when you watch markipliers play through of “My eyes deceive” & don’t understand the ending then you read the comments & can’t finish your fried shrimp because of how sick your stomach feels…
THAT feeling…
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
emily dating jecka’s dad doesn’t change too much about how i see her, she canonically did that last game
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
HUMAN FUCKING TRAFFICKING!? & OF ALL THE FUCKING PEOPLE IT HAD TO BE A BUNCH OF ARABS- FUCK! EVEN IN ONE OF MY FAVORITIST PIECES OF MEDIA MY PEOPLE ARE SCREWED THE FUCK OVER BY HOW MUCH WE SEEM TO LOVE BEING TERRIBLE
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
jeffery died, i’m happy again.
honestly, y’all jeffery fans got what you deserved, & we got what we did too. i genuinely ENJOYED seeing nicole do all that shit to him because of how much i hate him, he’s a disgusting person.
anyways, can’t wait for this happiness to immediately go away by the next ending.
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
emily saying she’d fuck the columbine shooters was a great line, one of the big reasons i love her so much
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
holy shit it’s the hat man
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so i’m going into flipside now, see you afterwards, i will be reblogging this post with my opinions…
so glad i was watching the flipside when i saw this
Doing one of these but with my mutuals after seeing this image on my dash today!!
..Y'know he may be the god of war but.. I'm not mad. No, no not at all. :)
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You ever think…
That you could do something better than the person who originally made something? Like when fans replace sequels with fanfiction, or when people mod a game that could’ve been better if it just… added those things they’re modding in.
I feel like this a lot, & I mean A LOT a lot. It happens with everything, shitty sequels, mediocre games, dog-water adaptations, everything.
I felt this way with Class of ‘09 The Flipside.
Now, although many people would already be on my side by now, some of those people I don’t really want on my side. What I mean is, I liked flipside. I thought it was good & well written, it was still decently funny & all but… it was missing something… it was missing a LOT actually.
Basically, what I mean by ‘I could’ve done it better’ is I mean I could’ve made it more funny, & give Jecka at least ONE actual happy ending. I mean, the endings make sense to me, they’re just as dark as the previous game but felt much worse considering it’s not Nicole making a joke about it at the end. This is the same problems, trials & tribulations viewed from the perspective of someone who feels emotion, causing you to feel it too. A good piece of media makes you feel the same as the characters in it, & SBN3 did that perfectly.
I just feel like I could’ve done the same, but made people less mad about it… that’s all…
you got it, boss! i’ve already made a community post, & i’m gonna make a regular post now announcing it.
honestly, i was not expecting you to react so genuinely excited. i was expecting a ‘i’ll take anyone to do it, tbh’ or a ‘go ahead’ not an exuberant “YES!” so thanks, that’s def gonna motivate me for this!
There needs to be a rewrite of flipside just so we can all pretend it's the actual canon.
Chat!
fuck that sounded cringe- fellas!
i’m officially announcing that after the staggering amount of 1 vote, i’m gonna (try) to re-write flipside.
it might be hard since i genuinely do NOT have the resources to program even something as simple as a visual novel but i’ll thug that shit out.
That’s all, folks!
Tune in next week!
watched a full gameplay of c09 the flipside and i have the same opinion on it as everybody else,, yea its bad lmao
imo the best endings are the ari dies ending (unfortunately, rip one of my favorite lesbians) and the nicoles suicide ending. i felt like those two were the ones most written like the two previous games and didnt leave me a bad enough taste on my mouth,, apart from those id like to completely ignore the fact that theres other routes.
but maybe later though because something that striked me as weird is ive been seeing people defend the characterization of nicole in the scene with jecka's dad (yk the one) and its like ??
i know that nicole is not a good person and she does petty and cruel things to people just because she can, but its to who shes doing that petty and cruel thing to that is the problem and thats jecka. nicole is shown (although kinda subtely) to actually care for jecka. i mean come on,, she causes trouble intentionally just so the counselour can focus on her and leave jecka alone to smoke in peace all so jecka would talk to her again. if nicole saw her in the same light she did megan or ari she wouldnt have cared enough to do anything.
hell honestly i dont think nicole would even stoop that low! the only times she does anything that would be considered a sexual act is when shes literally broke and homeless. im pretty sure she would rather die than ever touch that middle aged man,,
in conclusion the game was shit and i hate how that scene destroys a part of nicoles character and how its basically just jecka torture fest with nothing in it to make it even mildly funny (except maybe the hatman scene)
guys what was flipside
Woah flip side was garbage
please don’t rewrite the flipside. If you want i can give reasons why not to . It’s not even that the flipside isn’t weird but rewriting typically never ends good . /nbr /gen
sure, go ahead, but i should warn you that it’s not gonna be so much so a “rewrite” more so i’m gonna create a better version of flipside. so if you have any objections, i’d love to hear it!