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The twirl that inspired my Edwin in a Skirt drawing! Does anyone know how to put this into slow motion?
It’s not a masterpiece, but here you go.
So, here’s my opinion on the matter. When Charles says that Edwin is the only one he’d go to hell for, he’s being 100% genuine. I don’t mean that he would LEAVE anyone else, Crystal, Niko, his mom etc, in hell, he would definitely try to get them out.
But with Edwin, GOING to hell was OPTION FUCKING ONE. He begged the Night Nurse to go get him and when she refused he immediately requested she let him go and that was the plan he was sticking with.
He didn’t try to find any other work arounds, maybe a summoning or something, no, it was “Edwin is in hell, I need to go get him.”
Another thing to remember, is that if it isn’t Edwin in need of rescue from hell, then Charles HAS EDWIN. Edwin who spent 73 years there, escaped on his own, has spent 35 years studying magic, and is probably a veritable expert on hell. I don’t think his very first thought would be “Open a door and I’ll go get them.” It would be to defer to Edwin, because Edwin got himself out, maybe he knows how to get others out.
There’s the argument, “He now knows the layout, how hell operates etc”, which is true, he does, but we’re also forgetting he had a MAP to where Edwin was taken. It was a Hail Mary even at that, since he might not have been taken to the same place as before, but Charles had a map to work with to figure out where to go to get Edwin. If someone else is taken after his trip to hell, he wouldn’t really know where they were, and hell is massive, if not infinite.
Charles is impulsive, yes, but he’s not stupid. He wouldn’t just rush to hell without a plan, especially not if he had Edwin’s guidance. He would definitely find a way to get whoever it is out, but it would be much different than what happened with Edwin.
Now the Crystal thing. @alexwilltellyouthings mentioned that Crystal doesn’t see much to live for outside of her three friends, and is stupidly brave. I agree for the most part, except the bravery thing. Yes, I agree that Crystal is brave, but in general, not in this instance. She wasn’t being brave, she was being stubborn, self destructive, and foolhardy.
My ten year old niece, who is moving up to middle school in September, told me she was scared of it. She’d be going to a new school and it scared her, but her parents kept telling her to be brave, she’s brave, there’s nothing to be scared of. I told her it was alright to be scared, bravery isn’t a lack of fear, bravery is being afraid, but doing/confronting what scares you anyway.
Crystal isn’t scared here and she isn’t listening to reason. She’s CONFIDENT, then when she’s told no, she’s ANGRY. She honestly thought going to hell, ALONE, without a MAP to guide her, being reliant on a very unreliable demon for entry and exit strategy, while still alive and very killable, was a viable option, and she wouldn’t be dissuaded. Foolhardy.
I think it’s commendable that she thinks that highly of Edwin and cares that much for him, but she was also ultimately being stubborn and selfish. Her being in hell would’ve been a liability, and instead of accepting that, she stormed off on her own. All of that, I think, comes back to her being in a very dark place mentally.
I should probably finish up what has turned into a Tedtalk and get off my soapbox.
In conclusion, I believe Charles when he says Edwin is the only one he’d go to hell for. Because in every other scenario, he would HAVE EDWIN WITH HIM, and they could work out another possible solution, or go together. Even then he’d do whatever he could to keep Edwin out of hell, and Edwin would never allow him to go alone. But when it comes to Edwin being in hell, going himself, to him, is the ONLY solution.
My confession: I don't believe Charles that wouldn't go to hell for anyone except Edwin.
I believe that he thought he meant it in that moment. But imagine that Crystal gets dragged to hell at some point in the future. Does anyone really believe that Charles, who now knows how hell operates, generally knows its layout, and knows that it's possible to get people out, would just shrug his shoulders and move on with his afterlife? Absolutely not. He would never leave her to that fate, especially after seeing what Edwin suffered.
So while it's a very sweet sentiment I am always completely taken out of the confession by how false it rings. It just feels impossible to imagine that Charles wouldn't brave hell for Crystal, or Niko, or his mother, or anyone he genuinely cares about. And that really diminishes the power of that scene for me.
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if payneland isnt endgame itll be soooo awkward for anyone they date in the future. like lol yeah that's my best mate and he will always be my Person and my Priority, you're cool too but would i go to hell for you? no
edwin going to grab charles' waist as they walk thru the door... i know what u are payne
Chorbwin is my new OTP
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gotta send the fmv link in an ask cuz tumblr replies do not like links rip - here u are !
OH MY GOD THIS IS GORGEOUS!
This fandom really does have incredibly talented artists and editors, doesn't it? I love it here.
Rewatching the scene where Charles and Edwin meet and man. They really have looked at each other like that the whole time
My last 2 brain cells when I turn on dbd AGAIN
i want to know so badly how edwin and charles went from “what if i stay here for a bit with you, instead?” “then you will always be running from her” to “you ever think, what if death did catch us? she’d force us to go to the afterlife and split up” “i will make sure that never happens”
when did the shift happen? how soon was it? they met in 1989 and started the detective agency in 1990 so pretty soon after they met it was obviously pretty clear to them that charles would be staying long term
but when did edwin realize that “for a bit” really means “forever”? that charles doesn’t mean to leave him? when did he realize that if charles ever decided that he’d had enough of gallivanting around together and made the choice to move on without him, something fundamentally important would be gone from him for ever (love)?
when did charles first begin to feel comfortable voicing things to their adversaries like “you want to take him, you’ll have to go through me” without feeling like it was Too Much? how long did charles worry in the back of his mind that edwin would decide he didn’t like having him around and jettison him off to the afterlife?
and all the while with edwin continuing to be kind to him and teach him the ghost rules and let him in, when did edwin pick up on charles’ misgivings and try to communicate that for as long as charles wanted to stay, edwin would never send him away?
was there a first case they took that almost separated them for good, and there was no other person there for them back then, no crystal, no niko, nobody else to help save the day, and it was such a near thing that then and there they decided they never wanted to feel that type of horror again?
when did they start speaking aloud their devotion and dedication to each other? when did being split up become a greater fear than moving on in itself? when did they start allowing each other to see that they are choosing each other over and over and over for the rest of time?
god, they make me unwell
Does Edwin or Charles have more rizz?
Honestly? After that last scene with the Cat King, I would definitely say Edwin. Charles is a charming, loveable person, which draws people in. But I don't think he has rizz. Edwin has rizz. I'll die on this hill.
I tried a number of times, but sadly I just couldn’t get this one right, probably due to the lighting of the scene in the show. This is meant to be the hug at the end of episode 5, when Edwin comforts Charles and tells him “bad guys don’t worry about being bad guys”.
edwin getting tired of crystal's jokes about things that would kill a victorian edwardian child and snarking back: "we had aluminium in our bread, boracic acid in milk, and arsenic in our wallpapers. if anything, i doubt a contemporary would survive my times"
charles is grinning in the background thinking my husband is such a bitch and i love it
I absolutely adore Edwin's little scissor-haunting
(idk how to link gifs but it's by @mellxncollie here)
there's so much about this scene that makes me fucking insane but this shot is chief among them because it's the vulnerable adoring unwavering stare and the absolute AUDACITY of the slow thumb rub on bare skin like what the fuck!!!
See I read these both differently. The first smile is from right after Edwin sends Crystal and Charles away from him summoning Shelby’s ghost. Edwin had just made the comment about Charles not currently being very subtle, and this was his response. It’s not meant to hide anything, it looks to me like a sassy little faux smile that’s normally accompanied by flipping your friend off affectionately.
The second one, I’ve seen a lot of people say, is him trying to appear happy for Edwin during this scene and he’s actively faking a smile because of jealousy. I don’t see it that way, I see it more as a relieved smile that he can’t hold back. That’s why he turns his face away while Edwin is talking, he doesn’t want him to think he’s laughing at him. But he is so relieved and genuinely happy that Edwin is finally opening up about what’s been going on with him. It’s been eating at Charles for a while, and Edwin is finally confiding in him. It’s a smile for himself.
The next time the camera cuts to him is when he cuts Edwin off to say he could’ve told Charles he liked Monty. The look on his face for that statement is so very soft. He’s got this gentle, sweet, SOFT little smile as he moves to comfort Edwin. It’s completely different from the one seen here, and I don’t think that one was fake either.
Does he fake smile, of course, it’s brought up multiple times by the characters. The most glaring example was right after he snapped at Crystal on top of the lighthouse. He took a breath, and we watch in real time him slip the mask back on. He does it at least twice I can think of off the top of my head in the Devlin house episode. Once when he goes to talk to Edwin after finding Hope’s diary, and at the end when he goes to talk to Niko about the crowbar.
Sorry, I don’t know why I don’t have the ability to keep any of my dumb opinions short. Basically, I see the first smile as a snarky response to a friend’s snarky comment, and the second as an involuntary smile of relief and genuine joy that Edwin’s finally going to let him in on what he’s been struggling with.
Don't mind me, I'm just connecting the dots here (Charles Rowland, you can't fool me with your fake smiles)(I'm studying him under a microscope as I type)
Gifs by @mellxncollie