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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT SEASON BRO I NEED A REFUND GET THIS OFF MY SCREEN. WHOEVER WROTE THIS SEASON NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

𐙚LET'S TALK ABOUT... DIEGO, LILA & FIVE

Okay, firstly I need to state that I'm going to say my impressions about the season four of The Umbrella Academy, focusing on the subway plotline. My considerations are very long (I'm talkative!) and about what I watched in the episodes and what I read on social media, so, I am totally open to opinions too!!

As an hyperfocused girl, I've been thinking about the subway arc plot decision during an absurd amout of time. I watched it a few times and read a lot of opinions. Yet, I still feel a little... surprised (?) by the intense hate over it.

It's not about liking or disliking the new couple that I'm talking about. Since naturally people would prefer one ship over another, it was obviously waited that the opinions would be divided.

I just... can't understand why people hated it so much as if it was a bad plot decision. Diego and Lila are beautiful together, i agree! They have a long, real and strong love story together. But why people are acting like this new plotline erased all their relationship together? Relationships are more complex than that.

Feelings are more complex than that. Humans are.

Actually, I may say that the psychological development that happens in the subway is way more interesting because Lila and Diego love each other, as much as Five loves Diego too.

This being said, I don't mean that I think a cheating plotline is interesting because of the cheating. I actually use to dislike it a lot. However, dealing with cheating in a black-and-white way as if it's an indefendible action is not clever. Sometimes, some things I read make me realize that people are so stuck into traditional morals that their capacity of thinking and analyzing complex emotional situations is kind of... damaged.

𝐒𝐨... 𝐋𝐢𝐥𝐚 𝐗 𝐃𝐢𝐞𝐠𝐨 𝐨𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐥𝐚 𝐗 𝐅𝐢𝐯𝐞?

The Umbrella Academy is known as a series with very human and complex characters. That's what makes it so good, from the beginning! That's why I think it's kind of sad to judge their relationship with a typical moral view.

Claiming that Lila didn't deserve Diego, for example is so... so sad. She was an amazing mother and wife. She tried to go back to them for six years and as soon as she could she went back! Not even thinking twice! She loves Diego, of course she does!

Loving Five doesn't make her love for Diego less strong.

I really don't think Lila X Five is just neediness, however, no way. They already spent two seasons constructing a beautiful (friend) relationship before and in this horrible context they spent a lot of time taking care of each other, being each other's support. Considering this and their communication development — jokes on season 3, kindness in the beginning of season 4 — it's not surprising or nonsense that it turned to become romantic. People and relationships change, love is built and adapted.

I don't think Lila stopped loving Diego (i mean romantically, but even if she did, she surely didn't in other ways of loving that are as beautiful as it is) but that doesn't make her love for Five false, and Five loving and having a relationship with her doesn't make him a bad brother either. That's why I emphasized that TUA is a series with complex relationships. Why do you get upset and surprised when another relationship between complicated characters is built due to the tragedies of the script?

If this didn't cause outrage before, could it cause because, this time, when things get complicated, the plot resource used questions the standard romantic drama format expected by the system?

𝐍𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐞 𝐩𝐥𝐨𝐭? 𝐎𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐫?

I guess one of the main arguments I saw was that their relationship didn't make any sense and that their scenes were extremely out of character, but I don't think it could be sustained when they both are characters who go through a lot that makes them change, alone or together. What they're claiming being out of character may simply be character development under non-ideal circumstances.

It seems like there's an strong resistance to open their minds while watching and realize that love isn't something that can only happen once and/or once at a time and under ideal situations. Diego and Lila's marriage crisis, Five and Lila developing ther friendship inbetween work cumplicity, Five looking more lost and tired in his decisions than before, the fact that it is the second time he has been trapped in space-time — which is a big trauma for him, since, from the first season (in the first apocalypse) we have been shown that, despite being introverted, arrogant and reserved, it is precisely "relating" that serves as a point of refuge for Five not to go crazy, lowering his guard and being kind...

All of this constructs very well their psychological coherency. "He wouldn't treat her like that during season 2 or 3!", "Lila would never be a domestic mother/ Five wouldn't work do CIA!". Well, we're talking about them now, not there.

One of the plot decisions to start this season was that the characters were living between what they kind-of-desired, but things still weren't fine, they still weren't getting what they wanted.

Five being free from the world-ending, but stll not being able to relax and live a simple retired life as he wanted. Klaus being sober and free of the ghosts, but insecure and anxious. Allison having Claire and Ray, but still unable to live a happy marriage and career. Viktor having his place working with something that makes him comfortable, but still unable to find love. Diego and Lila having a family and marriage and still unable to feel happy because the domestic work dynamic wasn't working...

Adulthood. Real life. None of those situations were out of character, as much as none of the psychological changes they suffered were too.

𝐀 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐬𝐦

Since I don't really see the point on why would all of the happenings between them three could be claimed as "nonsense", even less "unasked" or "unnecessary" — because it's a work of fiction and, even if it may not be what the public wants to watch, it is not something that needs to prove its usefulness, just as events (that tie together well, because coherency matters) do not need to prove their necessity in art —, so it makes me even more sad that clearly mostly of the reactions are based on conservative views of marriage.

I know this season is not perfect, and it had a lot of defects, so I'm not saying the arc is perfect. As all the other arcs, it happened in a hurry, making us the public less abl to feel the 7 years of development. Complaining about how the arc was executed is perfectly fine, actually: after all, we know that 4 episodes were cut from the original script, as were many recorded scenes (including a big part of the subway plotline).

AIDAN: "There's a lot of the relationship with Lila that we filmes but they cut it. It took weeks to film it and they used a few minutes in a montage. That wasn't right. It also made very hard for the viewers to believe when we spent weeks filming scenes to set up that scenario."

But when I bring the conservatism theme (misoginy and remnants/consequences of the monogamous religious structure), it's because, even if we have lots of other of worse defects on other parts of the season, the biggest public overreacting opinions have been undoubtly about Five and Lila.

Anyone who spends more than 2 minutes in the comments on Twitter, Tiktok or even here knows that most of the time people've been sad and angry treating them both as if they were turned into cheaters with no morals (Five as a new kind of scroundrel asshole, Lila as some kind of ungrateful whore and I've even seen people problematizing their enemies phase, or the age difference as if one of then, or even the director, were predators, which is pure nonsense) and I can't even express how it makes me deeply melancholic.

I can't see how reacting as if the situations they were put in and their actions toward it in the scripts were absurd, terrible and dumb can't be just conservative, because they were actually very well tied script decisions, used in a bold way. With an interesting and well written enemies to frenemies to friends to lovers trope, they managed to write something fun and that developed both of the characters in their early-season-conflicts-arising-from-other-seasons.

𝐒𝐨? 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐝𝐨 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧, 𝐂𝐞𝐂𝐞?

I truly just... Can't understand how some people ended up having collectively such insensitive opinions about the relationship of two characters who were so... vulnerable.

Non-ironically I even saw a lot of people defending they would prefer Five to end up with a “real life Dolores” plotline (since the author felt the need of a romance) than with Lila, or that he shouldn't ever fall in love with anyone else than Dolores. It sounds so... Insane. I can't see how someone can have any kind of shipping-affection for his "sick" relationship with Dolores. It was, for me, a completely heartbroken arc.

While watching this new season, actually, it made me almost warmly happy, as a Five fan, to see him having someone to take care of him in hard times like that. Last time he didn't have it. They loved each other, they constructed this love and even if it was constructed under a refuge, extremely vulnerable situation, as much as even if it was constructed over a hopeless and trust-breaking decision towards their loved Diego, it doesn't make it less real and beautiful.

They aren't bad people. They aren't cheaters. They were desperate.

I'm happy they found love in each other. They were victims but managed to construct a beautiful relationship to survive and it doesn't make them love less Diego, as a brother or as a lover.

Of course it breaks completely my heart that Diego and Five died without making peace, but while watching not even for a moment I considered that they stopped loving each other. They're brothers, they've went through a lot.

They were doing so fine getting along together since they came back from the apocalypse.... There's no way it would "destroy" and "erase" (terms used by some fans) all the progress that's been made... I think it would be a very shallow interpretation of their relationship and a very futile interpretation of the events. Some of the public is seeing the situation as if Five slept with his wife since the beginning, not as if he had felt in love with her in a very apocaliptical and hopeless situation.

It's essential to remember that nothing said romantic happened for six years. It turned this way only after they having practically given up hope of returning home, so exhausted they were.

I really don't think that such a desperate and lonely situation would erase all the love and dedication Diego have for Five (and Five has no reasons to stop feeling it for Diego too, obviously). Diego was totally the sweetest during this season, he did his best, but Five did too... Now they fought but it doesn't mean their relationship would be forever broken. They were both stressed out, of course, it was a sensitive situation. But, i don't think it would... However with an apocalypse going on, they just didn't have enough time.

Diego was clearly open to understand Lila better, so I really doubt he wouldn't try to do the same with Five. But, again, they were both heart broken, hot headed and with no time. It's sad and it affect them, but "destroy and erase" are very heavy terms and inconsistent with the context of their relationships.

I don't know. I don't know how to conclude this analysis. I just… Am sorry. I honestly feel lucky to have been able to experience Diego, Lila and Five, but I'm so sorry that I couldn't see these three hearts find peace in their complicated loves, even during their final moments. These are three very beautiful love relationships that grew up tangled up and that, unfortunately, couldn't unfold in time to hurt less their lovers.

It felt wonderful and desolate. I hope more people can feel it like i did.

Lila & five

Literally the ONLY good thing that came out of the disaster that was TUA S4, was Lila & Five’s relationship BEST RELATIONSHIP int the whole show.

She always chooses Five.

jeromenancy doodle

We are so lucky to have such wonderful authors defending this ship ☂️🚆🍓

Savor each word, savor the tension (always), savor the happy ending (so rare) ❤️

New One-shot Alert

My Five X Lila Strip poker one-shot is finally done!

A Preview:

Five expelled his drink, coughing into his fist afterward.

Lila’s eyes widened as she leaned over, patting him on the back a few times as he gasped and sputtered. “I-I’m sorry—” he wheezed. “I-I thought you said ‘strip’—”

“Oh, no. You heard right,” she reassured calmly.

“What the fu-How can-Are you—?!” Five rapidly protested, suddenly squeezing his eyes shut, his expression annoyed and aggrieved in equal turns. “What am I saying? Of course, you’re insane—”

“Oi! You said I get to pick—!”

“Yes, Lila. I did,” Five admitted, his voice strained as he tried to be patient. “But why would you—?!”

“What? Afraid of losing your precious Puritanical sense of propriety because you’re shite at cards—”

“Two things, senior psychopath. One, I am most certainly not ‘shite’ at cards. You must not have read my file too closely while you were at the Commission, because if you had you would know the identity of the only known person to have bested James Hickok in a game of cards—”

“Wild Bill?!” Lila gasped as Five kept talking.

“—Two, you are my brother’s wife—not to mention my best friend!” Five hissed as if worried someone might hear him.

“Aw, old man, I’m touched—!” Lila fawned, only to be cut off.

“Don’t change the subject! Playing strip poker is practically cheating!” he snapped.

Lila rolled her eyes. “Puh-lease! One, there is no way you are telling me you beat Wild Bill and even think for a second, that we’re not going to play! Two, playing strip poker is most certainly not cheating—”

“How the hell do you figure—?!”

“It’s not like we’d even be touching—”

“We’d be naked—!”

“You might be, loser—”

“Regardless of who might be naked in this scenario, Lila, the point still stands that it is obviously —”

“Have you forgotten that you’ve already seen me starkers as it is?” Lila smirked, folding her arms. “Or am I the only one that remembers?”

Lila watched as a vein began to throb at Five’s temple as he gritted out, “You were trying to kill me; forgive me for being a little preoccupied.”

“Not at all! You honestly ought to thank me for even giving you another chance at eyeing the goods!”

Lila watched in amusement as Five gnashed his teeth in frustration, his face growing red. She was unsure if it was from anger or embarrassment.

“We’re both adults, old man; playing a friendly game! Nothing untoward. You Americans are always so touchy about nudity. There are plenty of cultures where family members see each other naked all the time—!”

“Lila, it’s not because we’re—"

“Besides, the human form is natural; not necessarily only sexual,” Lila reasoned, knowing Five well enough to know that an appeal to his sense of logic would be difficult for him to argue against. Although she could think of one other appeal he’d struggle to overcome: an appeal to his sense of pride.

“You’re just afraid I’ll show you up,” Lila grinned.

She liked the way his eyes blazed when he was truly beginning to lose his patience. The way he clenched his jaw, making a muscle jump in his cheek.

“Or worse, that you might like what you see~” Lila whispered, teasing.

Five’s face went scarlet.

Lila felt her heartbeat quicken.

Lila loved ruffling his feathers, flirting and teasing; taunting and baiting; and disturbing his carefully constructed world.

She loved it from the moment they met, and it had only grown over the years.

She remembered when they'd first been enemies, the way his anger and pain had felt like a balm to her soul.

When his bitterness had tasted so very sweet.

Even now, with his brother—her husband—no one else had ever given her this feeling. That spike of adrenaline and dopamine that rushed through her veins like a drug. That thrill that made her heart race.

Her life felt drab, stifling, and joyless sometimes; like she was dragging her feet through a gray, lackluster existence.

And then Five would come along, brightening her life and splashing her universe in technicolor. If she was Dorthy, he was her Oz and she never wanted to go back to Kansas.

She does.

[...]

The place with the strawberries (Fanfic)

Imagine Five never found that little black notebook on the subway tracks so him and Lila remain stuck in their own alternate timeline. Their relationship blossoms slowly over time and they create a life together at ‘the place with the strawberries’. Time can change everything, especially minds and hearts. This a tragic love story. Mature themes.

( I didn't write this but it was well done so thought other fans would enjoy the read ♥ )

*waves shyly* So, this is my first Five X Lila story. Please, take care of me 🙇🏻‍♀️

☂️🚆🍓 Love, and other things that won’t stay buried

Summary: Five didn’t kiss Lila in the strawberry greenhouse that day. But it doesn’t mean he won’t another day.

Hey guys,

This is my modest contribution to the wonderful people of the FiveLila community. To the many amaaaazing writers and artists, its thoughtful members and incredible supporters 💜

You’ve brought me back to fanfictions. To tumblr. To ao3.

You’ve fueled my obsession with this ship for the past month and a half—you’ve played with my heartstrings, sometimes making it ache even more, and other times spreading healing balm on my broken heart.

Gosh, I feel like a girl in love—living in a daze, listening to love and break up songs, feeling hot and dizzy, and constantly checking my phone for updates of the community... so, here’s a small token of love to all of you.

I hope you’ll enjoy this piece as much as it kept me obsessed day in, day out, trying to find the right words, and make sense of the one scene that started the whole story.

It’s been a years— more than a decade even—since I last wrote anything. Much less in English. So, I apologize in advance for any typos, grammatical errors or weird wordling and phrasing.

These are the first two chapters. I'm still trying to wrap things up, so I figured, I'll post the first part to test the waters with you all 🙏

I’d love any feedback to know if I should train or warm up a bit more before our little appreciation week in October. I have some ideas, but I needed to get this one out first. 💜

Merci 😊

This is the third chapter of “Love, and other things”. Hope you’ll enjoy it as much as the beginning 😊

Summary: Everything comes together, before crashing down (of course).

(TUA s4 spoiler)

Surprised? A pair of equaly smartass obnoxious brats-former assasins, both harbored hatred at first but by circumstance reluctantly became partners. In the course of 6 years got lost together in space and time, only had one-another as companion to travel timeline by timeline while fighting side by side in order to - Survive - Find a way back and Stop an Apocalypse in their own home, overtime gradually falling for another.

This 🔝 is what was taken from us, a glimpse into the lost time, this is why I am FOREVER stan that Five & Lila is the one very understandable thing compared to every monstrosities they thrashed in TUA s4.

And when ones still in the proceed of he wouldn't/ she wouldn't. I can write a big a** essay about they would, yeah, they would HARD.

It will have the first paragraph of canon events like - Please gather here for context, what was conveniently be forgotten :

s1 - s3: Happened in 28 days EST (depend on characters)

D!ego & Lila actually met and get together in 20days - few months give or take with Lila traveling in time : Lila found out she was pregnant, always had dreamed about a family she couldn't have , well, when D!ego is a responsible good man who she had feelings for was right there.

-> boy & girl built a family together after few months because the girl (killer - assassin past/ manipulative skills) got pregnant so asked the good boy (made of big chunk hero complex spice with abit mummy issue) for a family.

(keep in mind i'm talikng context, never judged anyone /anything)

Every single one of Hargreeves's sblings wanted to walk out of the family at one point or another. Have experienced love for family and love between lovers (2 souls who match in all levels) - (must i clarify those are totally different kind of love?)

mr.Five - mr.i know best - authority complex (from being the oldest) respectfully disrespect every sblings. Meanwhile showing his questionable ability to control his emotions (the irony is this made him a loveable character)

s4: After 6 years in the new timeline:

Girls got tired, Boys got tired, siblings all so tired.

mr.Five showing his questionable ability to control his emotions. Have experienced love for family and love between lovers (2 souls who match in all levels) (I should clarify those are totally different kind of love)

All of the above pulled out from watching the show, and i can write more about the Subway storyline is not that out of blue for their characters. Anyone shared the same thoughts is welcome.

This is inspired by a quote "May you find someone who speaks your language so you don't have to spend a lifetime translating your soul"

♥Shy stolen looks♥

These two...I swear~ ♥ Can cover any relationship trope. Here is still the sweetest and most at peace either one of them has been. Five gazing at lila - both of them becoming mentally healthy again. Healing from what they have been through. Lila meeting his gaze but Five still not saying anything. The adorable stolen looks to each other when they think the other isn't looking. Lila wanting his attention, Five being playful by ignoring her till she keeps poking at him for acknowledgment. Their little flirting game was quite romantic ♥

time travel is a massive head trip, I grant you... but things are still real, they're just moving by so fast you get dizzy with the changes.

Chapter 4 of "Love, and other things" is out ❤

So here's my gift for the Hargreeves' birthday 🎈 There's a scene that *could* be a present I guess 😉

Hope you'll enjoy the read!

Summary: Must everything always end in tears? (spoilers: the answer is 'no' of course 😂)

Note 1: To be honest, the story could have ended here too... But the story had a mind of its own, so there's just a little more coming until the finishing line 🙂

Note 2: If you care to look for it, there's just one sentence, that refers to something canon, that hints to how I'm handling the next chapter 😁

I can't get over that look of love and everlasting devotion.

Marigold Semi-existence Musings

So was discussing the likely possibility of the marigolds being their souls in their own purgatory in the park with someone on discord. How their sense of self may have still been retained with memories, telepathic communications between them. Since this was a way for them to still exist. Just giving up their earthly bodies to not impact the timelines with interference in a negative manner. Allison had said, "Maybe we'll meet again." Five responding "That would be nice..." Tying in to them being the marigolds. A small mercy from the universe or perhaps the mysterious little girl who could represent god or the devil according to Klaus. I'm confident in saying that the two marigolds leaning into each other, practically nuzzling are Five and Lila. Their love story coming to fruition was meant to be the focus of this season originally. Budget and time cuts limited that but their scenes together still painted the picture of the tale. Evoking the proper emotions. Wouldn't have made sense for Lila/Diego since they didn't have more loving scenes together. Apologies riddled with guilt and the need for closure before the end can't be misconstrued for acceptance in love. The season went out of the way to show how that love had withered on the vine over time. Showrunner essentially said they couldn't come back from that and she would have been with five as well. Was reading up on the meaning behind marigold flowers and in the language of flowers; when they are given to someone they are said to represent love and ever lasting devotion. Couldn't help but remember five during the bracelet scene.

Another interesting fact is that the flower is used to help guide the souls of the dead back to the land of the living. Given how the umbrella's sacrificed themselves but their souls are still part of the original timeline, watching familiar faces they saved in a subtle way at the park. A flower that was cultivated by the ancient civilization, the Aztecs. This meaning behind them is why they are often used to celebrate the holiday Dia de los Muertos.

So thankful for @just-b-wilde's work, both with video edits and fanfictions. She's one of the contributors who makes the @@fivelila-fandom feels so welcome, alive and productive! 💜💜💜

If you don't know her work yet, don't walk, run.

→ All my Fivelila video edits 🚇🍓☂️

Chapter 5 of "Love, and other things" is out ❤

This chapter is dedicated to @gaishnik When I was wondering whether to end the world or not (because I Am The Author 😎), I remembered that cute fanart they did :

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if Lila had gotten into Five's deli

And thus, this is how the story went. Hope you'll enjoy this chapter ❤

For this chapter, I ask for your suspension of disbelief. 🙏

Sneak peek :

The other Five was still lounging in his booth. His face was blank as he gave a long look at their laced fingers before leaning back and giving Five a steel glare. The silent showdown could have dragged on—until a plate slid in front Lila. 

“Your favorite, Love!” said Waiter!Five with a cheerful grin. “Strawberry jam on toast, with a side of baked beans and eggs. Compliments from the Chef.” 

“You tell me if you want more, Love!” shouted Brisket!Five, beaming from the open kitchen.  

“Lila, are you real?” Drunk!Five dragged himself off the wall, stumbling toward their booth. He collapsed beside her, resting his head on her lap and promptly passing out. Lilas started petting his hair, bemused. 

Five could see a vein throb on his double’s face. Booth!Five closed his eyes before steeling himself. “You guys—why you always—You see other Lilas here?” He shot a pointed look at Five, voice hard and full of accusation. 

S4,E6: Thinking about how the scene with Five holding Lila as cried, utterly devastated in the subway after saying goodbye to her children…he runs to her, holds her and accepts her “I hate you for this” because he understands the depth of her pain and how it had to be channeled somewhere. He was the safe place for her when she was the most broken. “I know”….

She clings to him for a long time, he quietly holds her close. And then the camera just zooms out and cuts away. What happened after she finally caught her breath? How long did he hold her like that? She doesn’t run back to Diego, even though he would be enduring the same pain losing their children. No, Lila needs Five. Her interaction with Diego is perfunctory, only saying the kids are safe, not sharing her brokenness and grief with him.

Only Five knows her that deeply. Her words say I hate you but they both know that what lies under those words is raw devastation and mutual understanding that Five is strong enough to hear it and know that she NEEDS him right now and always. Lila knows he’s strong enough to take it- he always has been strong enough for her.

One hint is that when they blink back to Luther’s place they are staring at each other, not the siblings or their surroundings as one would expect. The camera cuts away and then back to them, still staring at each other. It says so much about what the camera didn’t show.

…Do you know if anyone has written a fic about the moments here, between these two scenes?

With the way time behaves in the subway, they could have been gone for a few minutes or a few years.

Beautifully written! I totally agree.

Lila needed Five, not Diego. It was Five who hugged and comforted her, who she allowed herself to be vulnerable in front of. I still don't understand how anyone can say she chose Diego after that scene. That scene is honestly the best thing the final episode gave us. You can see the depth of their bond, their vulnerability and closeness to each other. Five was her safe place for so long and once again she ended up in his arms while experiencing such a very heartbreaking moment.

And in the meantime… a lot of things could have happened!

Honestly, I actually wrote one of those fanfictions. It's the exact moment before the comeback. Well, I wrote it two days after the finale, so my emotions were a little wild. And I would have written the scene differently today. But here it is:

Still not over this ship 💔

Finale of "Love and other things" is out! 🎉

Happy *Two Months* to my dear fellow lovers of the Fivela ship🍓, thank you so much for sticking with me through my first piece!

This final chapter is dedicated to @HansoDax for prompting me with one of her favorite lines from the show—and for being such a lovely penpal ❤ Be sure to check out her incredible work!

I hope you enjoy this story all the way through to the end. 🤗