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The Duffers explained in the 4x08 script that Vecna “whispers” to Will through their connection. Will may not be actively Flayed, but this comment illustrates the connection Vecna/MF has with his victims. Even if they’re not “activated” 24/7, Vecna is still influencing them and driving them to commit these heinous acts. By that logic, activation would equal access to powers, but the vessels are still very much under his control. It’s too complex a relationship to boil down to “activated” and “not activated.”

quick question: does Billy count as "activated" in scenes where he's calmly doing the MF's bidding? or is "activation" reserved for the black veins thing?

Will says the MF only activates you when he needs you, and he never got the black veins until they were roasting him, which does not seem to constitute the MF "needing" Will, so he must be referring to times like killing the soldiers etc.

but then it wasn't until Billy went into black veins mode in the sauna that Will literally announced "he's activated". Will's spidey sense also went off exactly when Billy got the black veins in his eye at the Holloway house.

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