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4 years ago

Talentless Nana: Audience vs Character Motivation

An Analysis of how Talentless Nana’s complex writing and take on protagonist sympathy, by a person who isn’t qualified to talk about it. Spoiler free for episode one until the cut, after that spoilers for a bit further into the manga, but nothing huge.

Every story has to deal with what I affectionately call the “who cares” principle. This idea is that for every story, there must be a reason the audience cares, why they want to see it through to the end. This reason usually structures the plot. A story cannot exist without a reason to see it through.

While people’s motivations to consume media differ incredibly (I.e “I’m only in it for the ships, I like the animation, I like the artist”) I believe in most stories there is something in the story that the audience is supposed to care about.

In a lot of stories it’s what the protagonist wants, hence them being protagonist. Part of this is because many protagonists are simply audience surrogates with varying levels of personality, but there is more to it.

This makes the task of audience sympathy fairly simple, all the creator has to do is endear their audience to the protagonist and soon we care about what they care about, making it easy for the creator to straight up tell us what we want via the protagonists mouth.

For example, in My Hero Academia, “the audience” wants to see Izuku become the most powerful hero. It’s what Izuku wants, and we like Izuku, so we want what he wants. That doesn’t mean people don’t watch HeroAca because they like other characters, or because the fights are cool, or they like the art, it just means that’s what the audience is supposed to want, or at least something they care about at some level. The audience wants to see what happens, so that’s where the story goes.

This is how a lot of stories work, especially popular ones.

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So what does this have to do with Talentless Nana? Well… (spoilers below.)

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1 year ago

Nana Hiigari

Considering she's supposed to be intelligent, you would have thought, at the very least, queries the morality, if not the legality and ethics of killing schoolchildren (let alone those she killed before she arrived at the island). She's fully aware of what she's doing, so it's all on her own head. She certainly deserves to be punished far longer than three years (that ends up around 3 months for every kid).

Hopefully, she won't have a happy ending (preferably meet a nasty end - with her own poison needs would be nicely ironic). Whilst she may have "changed" for dubious reasons she will have to end up killing people again at some point. Even though she's changed, she's still an insufferable, nasty little bitch. I've got very little sympathy for her, especially as she was sadistic killing everyone.

And yes, killing Nano led to more people suffering - all because of Nana (no idea why Nano should forgive her - obviously he forgot how Nana taunted him before he fell, although I do hear he did beat the crap out of her as well)


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8 months ago

Miirichu's death

Can't say I feel sorry for Nana - after all, she got what she wanted, even if it was indirect. Besides, she got a taste of her own medicine.


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8 months ago

Nana

She certainly doesn't deserve a happy ending. Be quite ironic if she ends up being killed by her own needles. Heh


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8 months ago

Nana

It's a shame the death penalty wasn't carried out on her


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7 months ago

A scathing review of Talentless Nana

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A Scathing Review Of Talentless Nana

In summary:

"The poor worldbuilding of Talentless Nana makes the story come off as cheap and shallow. It is edgy for the sake of being edgy, dark just because it wants to differentiate itself from the superhero crowd, and features a sociopathic schoolgirl as a main character just 'coz."

It's never been in any top manga list, which isn't surprising.

It also doesn't help that Nana is an extremely unlikable sadistic mass murdering nut-job. Even later when she for some reason manages to work out that her murders were just a setup (and during that time she never questioned the legal , ethical or moral aspects of her orders), she's still arrogant and unlikable. I do hope she meets a nasty end, especially considering she only spent 3 years in jail


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7 months ago

LMAO

Shout-out to this person for assuming too much

LMAO

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7 months ago

Nana is pretty irredeemable, and should be thrown back in jail. Nano should be as well, although his revenge against Nana is certainly justified, considering she was ruined his life

so many Talentless Nana haters really just come across as sexist tbh - they almost always complain about how Nana is morally-grey. I have to wonder how many people who hate Nana would like her if she was a guy instead


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7 months ago

Nana gets away with far too much, far too often and with little consequence for her, beyond some friends dying


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7 months ago

Nana

She needs to die


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7 months ago

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6 months ago

Updated AI Nana Hiigrai animation. Rather odd, but at least she dies


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6 months ago

Preferably by a poisoned needle

who else wants talentless nana season two . I'm srs dying over it not realising. nana needs her revenge. :/

Who Else Wants Talentless Nana Season Two . I'm Srs Dying Over It Not Realising. Nana Needs Her Revenge.

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6 months ago

Absolutely detest Nana


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6 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Nana Hiiragi does enjoy killing people - she is always smiling happily when thinking about killing her victims.

Whilst she may say that she doesn't want to kill any more, later on - it certainly doesn't stop her (no doubt it would be the first thing she thinks of to solve problems, instead of anything else).

Also wouldn't surprise me if she gets off on it, either.


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6 months ago

The fact that people try to exonerate Nana because she was "mind controlled" doesn't hold much water considering she was fully aware of what she was doing; didn't need to; didn't bother querying anything and was fully cognisant during her pre-meditated murders; and she quite happily carried another one out, with no doubt more to come.

All because that's the only thing the little bitch can think of. Or rather, lack of imagination from Looseboy


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5 months ago

Does Nana Hiigari deserve all the hate?

Is the Pope Catholic?


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5 months ago

I feel like Talentless Nana lovers talk more about the series than people who can actually see problems with the premise, which is a great shame.

No wonder there isn't a second series


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5 months ago

How I hate Nana Hiiragi


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