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HUGE PAPYRUS THEORY ALERT!! THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE.
so i’ve been looking at post’s about papyrus mysteriousness.
so theres this thing, where he extremely forgetful, mabye he has some amnesia or something, right? well i can’t say for certain but lets go with that, in order to get to the point.
so in the offical undertale tumblr ( link: https://undertale.tumblr.com/ )
theres this post they made, playing as sans and here’s a peice of what he said:
as im watching another theory, about how its strange, how sans says “it’s rude to talk about people that are listening” which is one of the direct quotes from the gaster followers. then he goes on to quote his brother.
i also know papyrus is one of the only characters who doesn’t have an asterisks. the asteriks is normally associated with “gaster”
and heres a few links that help this point even more:
https://papyrus-onlyblogokay.tumblr.com/post/620953358031831040/compilation-of-mysterious-papyrus-things
https://papyrus-onlyblogokay.tumblr.com/post/620954890762584064/really-with-the-fact-that-papyrus-can-see-which
https://papyrus-onlyblogokay.tumblr.com/post/620964312932040704/batter-sempai-plarbqueen-batter-sempai
https://papyrus-onlyblogokay.tumblr.com/post/621200518069583872/batter-sempai-zekestrife-papyrus-knows
and possibly more…
the thing with shyren’s lower body caught my attention even more.
sans says its important info, and to do some “reasearch” yet, and according to all the offical art of shyren, the lower body you see isn’t actually theirs. its another monsters.
this also goes to the fact that sans mentions is brother right after that fact. now some poeple thought this mean’t gaster is also his brother, with papyrus.
but the gaster and papyrus similarities are to… coincidental.
the amniesa, or forgettfullness of ones past, is pointed out many times, that i doubt its something to look over about papyrus. and then we have gaster, who was supposed to be “forgotten” by everybody. he was “erased”.
now who’s the only person that can’t remember anything about themselves? only bits… and peices…. shattered.. across… time.
i do belive, in some way, papyrus is gaster, but not ike the way you think.
just like shyren, one is the body and one is the mind.
mabye perhaps… when gaster got “shattered” he split into two seprate people. shattered means “phsyically broken into peices”, but they never specified HOW MANY PEICES. People are assuming he was shattered into many, extremly small bits. but mabye he was shattered into clumps, big peices. like how one of the goners in hotland says he’s holding a piece of GASTER. its a pretty big peice.
then again, he could just be going crazy right, so i must be wrong? mabye thats his own face. or mabye some random plot twist, where the body is the one being hold.
but this peice might be… “memory”.
papyrus is the body..
gaster might be the so called mind… the holder, or jar, or safe, to keep what is…
the apperent “hopes and dreams” song that keep playing in my head as ITS IS JAMMED IN OUR BRAINS TO REMEMBER THE WORD “MEMORY.”
THIS PEICE MIGHT BE THE “MEMORY” OF GASTER.
BEACUSE IF NO BODY WANTS TO REALIZE THIS, I’LL HAVE TO SAY IT.
PAPYRUS KEEPS FORGETTING HIMSELF. PAPYRUS HAS NO MEMORY! GASTERS MEMORY IN PEOPLES MIND WAS ERASED. IF ITS ERASED PAPYRUS CANNOT REMEMBER HIMSELF. ONLY,
BITS
AND
PEICES.
SHARDS. THEY ARE SHATTERED. ITS BITS AND PEICES.
guys papyrus isn’t “just” gaster, he is a PEICE of him.
A PUZZLE PEICE OMFG.
Heh. You know, come to think of it… The entrance to Mysteryman’s room is eerily similar to the entrance to Papyrus’ room.
The door sprites are the same, just with/out decorations and one is greyed out. (Although, so are the rest of the doors in Sans and Papyrus’ house, so take it with a grain of salt.)
When you enter both rooms, you hear a door shut and all music stops. It’s the same door shutting sound effect.
And although this part is really stretching it, if you look at the shape of the rooms and where Papyrus/Mysteryman stand, there’s some similarity there.
…..And, actually, if you overlay the rooms….
It’s exactly the same size and shape, just entered at different points.
Compilation of Mysterious Papyrus Things
Random Strange Facts:
Papyrus is the only character to speak without an asterisk
Papyrus’s dialogue shakes on a consistent basis when no one else’s does
Papyrus is described as “forgettable,” something only mentioned elsewhere in context with Goner Kid and Gaster
Papyrus seems to be able to see what the player is looking at when he calls them (”THAT BAG OF DOG FOOD LOOKS FAMILIAR…”)
Papyrus seems to know that MTT has eyes before MTT becomes MTT Ex
Papyrus has a total of 2184 lines in the game—more than any other character, and almost as much as the narrator of the game, which is at 2418 lines. The next closest character is Undyne, with 1268 total lines.
Similar wording is used to describe Papyrus as it is to describe Gaster. (It’s rude to talk about someone who’s listening)
Papyrus’s theme, “Nyeh heh heh/Bonetrousle,” is used in all of the trailers of the game
Papyrus and Sans break the 4th wall in the stream greenlight trailer, which shocks Toriel
Papyrus flies/breaks the laws of physics casually and seemingly on a regular basis
Papyrus is one of the few characters that refers to gameplay mechanics (“PRESS [C] ON THE KEYBOARD FOR DATING HUD!” “HOLD UP LONGER TO JUMP HIGHER, JEEZ!”)
Papyrus says himself that he knows nothing about his hands because he always keeps his gloves on.
There is nothing, nothing known about his past before his showing up to Snowdin. By the end of the game and after some research, you can basically know more about Gaster and Sans than you do about Papyrus, despite him having the most dialogue in the game besides the narrator.
Papyrus has such control over his magic in his fight, that he can make his attacks do zero damage because he refuses to kill the human.
You are healed to full HP right before the Papyrus fight, as well as immediately after if you are captured.
Papyrus doesn’t seem to realize that Frisk is a kid, despite Frisk wearing a striped shirt, which is a common indicator for childhood in monster society. (is he unfamiliar with common monster culture, for some reason?)
Sans reads Papyrus bed time stories on a regular basis, but Papyrus himself never seems to sleep
The Undertale Q&A that Toby Fox did for Undertale’s anniversary revolves around Papyrus
His defense raises in the spare phase of his fight, unlike every other monster. He seems to be able to manipulate his own stats.
Relationships:
The two 4th wall breaking characters (Flowey and the Annoying Dog) seem to have a special interest in Papyrus
Annoying Dog:
Steals bone attacks on two separate occasions (Papyrus fight and aborted Genocide hangout, in which the “special attack” is hinted to be Gaster Blasters)
Steals bones in general on two occasions (Under Papyrus’s sink and during the hangout with Undyne)
Eats Papyrus’s lasagna
Snuggles with Papyrus
Flowey:
Says Papyrus started a “Flowey Fan Club”
Says Papyrus took a long time to get boring on his repeated runs
Asks Papyrus to call Frisk before the True lab, gather everyone together before the True Ending, and probably leave a note in Alphys’ trash can
Flowey is the only one who knows Papyrus’s favorite food, which is dinosaur oatmeal (no, it’s not spaghetti. Papyrus has never eaten it.)
When Flowey attacks the group during the True Pacifist fight, he binds everyone with two vines, except Papyrus–who he binds with four.
Sans (overlooking the bounteous brotherly goodness of the two):
Papyrus lies to him on a consistent basis
This is to probably humor Sans about his level of knowledge?
Papyrus still expects Sans to know more about Papyrus than Papyrus does himself?
Papyrus acts negatively towards Sans’s puns, but then turns around and makes the most (and arguably best) puns in the game out of anyone
Personality:
Doesn’t outwardly acknowledge criticism
According to Sans, he is trash-talked a lot
May have self-worth issues
Extremely blasé about his own death
Doesn’t seem to have friends, despite working very hard to get them
He phrases things in really strange ways. (”UNMANDATE IT SAFER”)
Papyrus staunchly refuses to really hurt people, despite it being very likely that he could be just as hard or harder of a fight than Sans
He has a strong and unshakeable belief that people can change (does he know this from personal experience?)
He hates Grillby’s and Hotland
He is an amazing artist
He considers himself a great chef, even if he doesn’t necessarily eat what he cooks
Quotes:
“DEADLY SPIKES, PRECARIOUS BRIDGES! TRULY THE PILLARS OF YOUTH!”
[when dying] “ALAS, POOR PAPYRUS. [this is quoting Shakespeare while he’s dying] WELL, AT LEAST I HAVE MY HEAD!”
“I WOULD NEVER TAKE A VACATION FOR ANY REASON!”
Undyne: “Papyrus… doesn’t know how to sleep??”
“I WANT TO MEET DEATH!”
“YOU CAN SEE YOUR REFLECTION IN A PUDDLE, BUT… DON’T LET A BODY OF WATER DETERMINE YOUR SELF WORTH!”
“IT’S MY LEAST FAVORITE NIGHTMARE!” – referring to Hotland lasers and conveyors
“A MYSTERIOUS SCIENCE HOUSE. […] LABORADOR-Y?” When talking about Alphys’s lab with Sans present.
“A LAB?? MY BROTHER WOULD LOVE THAT!” –when talking about Alphys’s lab without Sans present.
“ICE CREAM? THANKS, BUT I LIVE IN SNOWDIN! THERE’S ICE CREAM ALL OVER THE GROUND!” –when talking about ice cream when Sans is present.
“I TRIED TO CAPTURE YOU… WHERE’S MY ICE CREAM.” –when talking about ice cream without Sans present.
“STOP LOOKING IN MY EMPTY MAIL BOX. THAT’S MY EMPTINESS, NOT YOURS.”
“I AM A PRETTY BRUTAL KIND OF GUY.”
“HOTLAND! I KNOW IT LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. WHICH, SINCE I’M ALWAYS WEARING GLOVES… I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT!”
“WELL, IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMEONE TO OPEN UP, YOU SHOULD ENGAGE THEM IN COMBAT! HUM HUM HUM…” – before the Shyren encounter. This is one of the few times where Papyrus actually gives you something helpful, but how does he know?
Links for additional reading/theories(most links to @batter-sempai, @papyrus-knows, and @queenofdragons6 posts and reblogs): Optimism does not make Papyrus naive Papyrus casually breaking laws of physics Strange music (or lack of) in Papyrus’s room Brutal kind of guy screenshots Some disturbing connections Some suspicious screenshots Part 3 of a sans theory where the writer realizes Papyrus is ridiculously mysterious Chara and Papyrus similarities–they’re always smiling! Phone call and 4th wall suspicions Papyrus surprising cynicism Sans and Papyrus dynamic speculation Vague Gaster and Papyrus connection Papyrus’s skewed views on what is safe for kids… possible backstory connection? Another compilation of sketchy Papyrus-y things Insomnia and nightmares More on music and rooms Papyrus creeped out by echo flowers Papyrus and Annoying Dog interactions (there are a surprising amount) Sans and Papyrus dynamic speculation 2 Papyrus: treated like a child Papyrus: nasty words with a huge grin The fodder for many an amnesiac theory Papyrus is literally the skeleton in the closet Papyrus battle mechanics and minor Flowey connections The dude is lonely Theory: is Papyrus Gaster? More Papyrus fighting skill plus reality breaking phone call He’s a gentleman Papyrus doesn’t sleep Undertale Q&A/Papyrus’s favorite food Reference–How many lines each character has in the game Debunking Stupid Papyrus 1 – he knows what death is Debunking Stupid Papyrus 2 – the sink height. Strange, but workable Debunking Stupid Papyrus 3 – “solving” the horoscope Debunking Stupid Papyrus 4 – the lab Debunking Stupid Papyrus 5 – pet rock Debunking Stupid Papyrus 6 – spaghetti