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3 years ago

Theory for ‘If we were villains’

TW: mentions of suicide and just general If we were villains angst

After Richard (who once again was being an asshole) tried to drown James in the lake and everyone else has left, an interaction between James and Oliver occurs. Now I -like many others- am a firm believer that James is still alive and I believe that this is even more proof than we already have:

“You want me to stay” I asked. I didn’t want to leave him.

“Please,” he said, in a small voice. “I just couldn’t deal with the rest of them, for a while”

This book is littered with foreshadowing throughout and I’m certain that this is a perfect example. This scene is a way of proving that James’ suicide note was in fact a clue for Oliver. Let me explain:

In both scenarios James has been drowned, once by Richard and once in a supposed suicide. Already this links the two scenes but it goes further. In the scene above after James has been submerged he lets the others in the group head back to the castle but asks Oliver to stay, and I believe that he is doing the same thing with his suicide note. The letter he sends is not only addressed for Oliver only, but it includes an extract that is important to his and Oliver’s relationship, that letter and the message hidden within it was something that James knew only Oliver would see. By using the extract of Pericles he sends out a message he knows Oliver would see as a clue.

The parallel between the two scenes is undeniable. Both times James has been submerged (literally or not) and has kept himself and his emotions hidden away from his group all whilst quietly begging Oliver -his lover- to stay and help him.


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1 year ago

I have yet to see a take on If We Were Villains that isn't either negative, related to The Secret History, or both. So here's mine. SPOILERS

First, I've seen some hate for Meredith and the other girls. Why? I understand that Meredith "betrayed" James and in that betrayed Oliver, but she was only trying to protect him and their friends. She didn't do it out of jealousy, she did it out of love.

If you must hate on Meredith for being jealous the least you can do is admit that you would be too. The guy your with, and perhaps even love, is obviously in love with another person despite choosing you. And that person is in love with him too. How would you feel?

In a perfect world Oliver and James would be together and Meredick would live happily ever after with no abuse or darkness of any kind. But the book isn't about a perfect world, it's about being doomed and making the best out of the situation. Meredith and Oliver found the best in each other, especially at the end of the book. While keeping James's death, we couldn't have asked for a better ending. Oliver loves Meredith more than he could love anyone outside of James, and she loved him for who he was and is.

Okay maybe I just wanted to rant about Meredith and he relationship with Oliver! But I never see posts about it! All I see is aesthetic boards, and while beautiful, aren't what I'm looking for!

I understand that If We Were Villains and The Secret History are practically the same, everyone points if out, but I have no interest in TSH and I never will. Somebody please get it.


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