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3 years ago

I really like your theories! I shared a couple with a friend and we discussed them till 3 am. They were that good haha. Anyway, I would like to ask what is your opinion on the differents ships the fandom has (always in a platonic way, of course), and if you believe we ever going to get some sort of confirmation. Oh! And you think RayxEmma has any chance? I'm crossing fingers xD Thank you for your hard work!

Thank you very much! I am always really happy to hear that my theories and metas inspire others to think more deeply about TPN! I think that this is such an amazing series!

In terms of shipping, first and foremost I think:

Everyone should be allowed to enjoy the ships that they like

I am really against shipping wars, I don’t think there is any reason to attack anyone based on their shipping preferences. So in my opinion, all ships are valid.

In terms of likelihood of ships becoming canon, I think there are some analyses you can do to try to figure out what the authors may intend to do.

I think Shirai and Posuka are both very consistent and logical in their story writing, so if they intend to confirm any ships, they would lay hints in the story for them.

So in that sense I do want to point out the contrast we see between how they portray the relationship between Ray and Emma vs Norman and Emna.

Out of these three, we only have verbal confirmation about Norman’s romantic feelings towards Emma.

For Ray and Emma, we need to rely on body language and visual portrayal if we want try to infer the author’s intent on their feelings.

So let’s compare two iconic scenes that are parallel situations, but framed completely differently.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were
I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

In both scenes, Emma is injured, and comforted by someone holding her hand at her bedside.

In the first scene, we see a private moment between Emma and Norman only. This looks like an intimate moment that a couple may share.

In the second scene, we see the whole family surrounding Emma and Ray. This looks like a family moment.

I think the difference in framing is very intentional. There is every reason for all the kids to worry as well about Emma in the first scene as well, but the authors still chose to show a private, rather than a family moment in that case.

There is also a distinct difference between the way Ray and Norman touches Emma in more recent scenes, once they are older.

Both of them are very close to her, and both care deeply about her, yet their body language is shown as very different.

We know that Norman has romantic feelings for Emma, so the way he touches Emma reflects that, and he touches her intimately by cupping her face tenderly, or holding her hands gingerly. These are not touches that would be done between people who viewed each other as siblings.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were
I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

The way Ray touches Emma is also with familiarity, but all his touches would be acceptable between siblings who are close. Sibling love is also important, but it’s a different sort of love to a romantic one.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

In terms of how Emma feels, we have other clues as well. When she talks about Norman, there are shojou bubbles around her, implying that she has some softer than usual feelings. We don’t see anything like that when she talks about anyone else.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

Plus when Emma almost dies at Goldy Pond, she sees Norman in the depth of her subconscious, and he is shown again to touch her very tenderly even IN HER IMAGINATION. I think it’s very significant that her subconscious imagines Norman tenderly holding her hands, and I think it heavily implies that she has some special feelings for him that she is not aware of consciously.

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The final nail in the coffin, so to speak, in my opinion is this image in chapter 128 that looks exsctly like a stock wedding art I grabbed off google.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

Even if you don’t take it as a clever way to foreshadow a Noremma wedding in the future, the message is clear: Ray only holds the shoulders of Norman and Emma, like a sibling would, but Emma and Norman hold hands like couples would.

In terms of Ray ships, the one I find interesting is Ray x Anna. My reasoning is that if my Peter Pan reference theory is correct, they are both a reference to the same character, but just two sides of the same coin.

That seems very poetic to me, although I think atm Anna is still too young for a Ray x Anna to be developing, but it may be a ship that gets confirmed in an epilogue in my opinion. Plus both of them are very private people, so I doubt their pda would be shown onscreen unlike Norman and Emma who just keep being very obvious about it.

As a bonus point, I think Ray took notice of Anna in a different light for the first time when she sacrificed her hair for his sake. I think that’s a good basis to have things later develop from, as I doubt Ray would ever forget that. He seemed super shocked and touched she would do that for him.

I Really Like Your Theories! I Shared A Couple With A Friend And We Discussed Them Till 3 Am. They Were

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3 years ago

I liked how Norman stare at Ray like: protect Emma.

Ah; I think this is a good prompt for me to reply with a CHAPTER 128 META on:

Norman’s trust and love for Emma and Ray

I want to pick apart Norman’s behaviour and analyse it, since I think he and his growth is easily misunderstood due to having a tendency of trying to hide his true feelings. Luckily we have LOTS of REFERENCES from the escape arc to work with.

First of all; this is not primarily a shipping post (though you can take some parts of it as that), and ofc spoilers for anime only people.

Secondly, I have seen some people say that Norman seems to be too harsh with Emma, and doesn’t care if she dies during this risky mission, and that…

is simply wrong.

Norman cares so much it is killing him on the inside, but he chooses to let them go because he loves and trusts both of them.

Because if you love someone, you let them have their independence and make their own choices, even if you DISAGREE with them.

It is made exceedingly clear that Norman disagrees with Emma. However his growth is shown that compared to the escape arc, he makes his feelings and resistance clear from the start.

While back then he monologues, now we see him make his points outloud. And look at how similar they are to 2 years ago. Norman is shown to still hold the same beliefs as then.

(Note that I have numbered the references so you can match everything, since there are a LOT of callbacks.)

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

Regarding references 4 and 5, note that the panels show the same view of Norman, BUT in the escape arc he PUTS UP A FRONT and smiles, but in the new arc, he is HONEST.

He has grown enough to realize that he can’t lie about his worldview anymore to Emma just to make her happy. He is ready to be realistic with her from the start.

The thing to note however is that despite being honest, Norman still keeps his calm. He is firm, but very collected in explaining his reasoning… except when Emma comes up with a crazy plan. And… the SAME thing has happened in the escape arc.

The authors have even sacrificed 2 panels’ space to draw attention to this parallel that most likely Norman himself realizes as well.

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

Just like back in the past, the only thing that can really throw off Norman from his game is the thought of Emma and Ray putting their lives in danger.

Norman literally goes mad with worry, going as far as shouting when even Ray, who is supposed to be logical and rational supports Emma’s plan. It happens in both cases, and the expressions are basically identical on his face.

He completely loses his sh1t composure at the thought of them being hurt.

Emma comforts him the same way as she did back then too: simple, loving, physical contact. The difference is that this time the embrace is much closer, much more intimate and Ray doesn’t want anything to do with it, because he is a self-conscious boy who is not okay anymore with THIS LEVEL OF INTIMACY thank you very much.

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

The panels fit so well together, it looks almost as if Norman is remembering that past scene, and perhaps he is…

Because what he does next is also similar to what he did back then: he draws up his walls by distancing himself and lies to Emma to placate her.

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

He makes the exact same face when he lied in the old arc. But he is NOT lying about the same thing.

(my personal theory is that he is lying because he plans on going to Gracefield to rescue Phil and co. while Emma is gone… but it might be the case that it’s more along the lines that he plans on self-sacrifising himself in his plans for some reason like in @vobomon and my demon gene theory…)

He has already been honest about disagreeing with Emma’s plan though , and having a different plan, (which was what he lied about back in the escape arc) and in the next panels he drives this home further, even going as far as being intimidating:

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

As you can see from the comparison, he has done this to Ray before, and if you remember right afterwards he was ready to welcome him back into his trust and make him his spy. Norman was simply using the intimidation to make his boundaries absolutely clear.

This is where I stand, DO NOT CROSS

(or I will be angry for real and hurt)

But, if he was so distraught about Emma’s plan, what changed his mind? The last time he didn’t let Emma or Ray risk hurting themselves…

I think it is also part of his growth to finally realize…

How to treat and trust the people he LOVES

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

Norman feels conflicted and confused, so he looks to the other person he cares the most about. There is a silent communication between them that needs no words to be said outloud, since their connection is so deep. I will try to fill in the blanks though:

Norman: Ray… What do I do? Is it really okay to let the two of you go? What if you are hurt? What are the chances of you even succeeding?

Ray: Norman, TRUST US. Haven’t I kept Emma safe so far? I wouldn’t be doing this if I thought it was was impossible…

Norman: I… I… *hesitates*

I will trust and let you go because I love you.

But it hurts to let you go… it hurts to be left alone…

I think the real reason Norman doesn’t hug Emma back and distances himself from her is because he needs to be able to put up a front to hide that he is HURTING deep inside by making the mature choice to support the people he loves even if he disagrees with them… Norman decides that he can’t control or cage them up, that if they want to go despite knowing the risks, he must accept their choice. Even if he is left feeling all alone without them, unable to follow them or their ideals… ah, the distance isn’t just physical between them…

So Norman clenches his teeth, and while he is bleeding inside, he smiles at them and wishes them luck and prays desperately that they will be safe…

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

You can see that Emma and Ray is brimming with confidence, just like in the escape arc, they wear the exact same expressions. Yet Norman is unable to smile together with them the same way since he is breaking apart on the inside.

As soon as Emma and Ray leaves, his smiling facade falls down, and you can see just how devastated he is by letting them go on their own on this dangerous mission.

It’s a powerful callback to the time where he put up a brave front before.

I Liked How Norman Stare At Ray Like: Protect Emma.

There is no inner monologue this time, but his expression and slumped pose matches when he was previously afraid to die… this time though

he feels like dying thinking about the possibility of losing Emma and Ray forever…

(Note: he doesn’t actually look at the hand that failed to hold Emma, that’s his left hand and this is his right hand… the same hand he used to sign the contract with Giran… Is he also thinking about how he could die in his plans? Or is he upset because he knows he has some demon genes and if he wants to destroy all demons, he must destroy himself as well? Well, there is not enough evidence yet to confirm that theory, but it could fit too.)

TL;DR: Norman was able to let Emma go because he trusts Ray to keep her safe (and vice versa). He chose to support them and give them freedom to choose their own path because he loves them.

But watching them leave to risk their life and leave him behind in the process… alone, perhaps forever… kills him on the inside with worry and lonliness.

I hope you enjoyed my analysis of this amazing chapter, and if you agree about how much Norman really cares about both Emma and Ray, then feel free to signal boost until everyone gets the message! 😉

Check the notes for more additions to the analysis.


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