Daenerys Is The First Queen Of The Targaryen Dynasty.

Daenerys is the first queen of the Targaryen dynasty.

Daenerys Is Also An Outcast

I've been rereading the books with my friend and normally i notice the typical outcasts like Tyrion, Jon, Arya, and Jaime (after his hand gets chopped), but no one ever brings up that Dany is also an outcast at least in the

first book and i think it's intentional by George. By the very nature of her blood she's an outcast. I think people assume or forget that even though she's a Targaryen which would in any other previous timeline would be a plus in the current timeline it's a negative.

She's been on the run her whole life avoiding assassins and never having a true stable place to grow and I think that gets downplayed by readers.

There's no other highborn POV that i can remember who has this background. Tyrion, Jon and Arya are for sure outcasts who get treated differently but they all grew up in castles with the best of the best.

What did Dany have other than Viserys? Viserys was good for a time but after he sold their mothers crown he became cruel and abusive. Then her brother sells her to Khal Drogo, a much older man who Viserys says "he'd let the whole kalassar you know what her" and then she's sold like cattle because she's simply a bargaining tool since she's a girl.

After her marriage to Khaal Drogo the assault is so bad that she says she's unalive herself. She's in the absolute lowest place and luckily she has her dragon dream but if not she would've been gone.

Sorry I'm kinda rambling but I just wonderd why she's not included in the outcast discussion. She's 14 year old child bride who's been on the run her whole life who never had power until she was sold to Khaal Drogo and even then it was a very small act of power. George himself says in an interview “Dany is an exile, powerless, penniless, at the mercy of other people” 2003 interview with GRRM(after ASOS) the dragon Robert Shaw. To me that's an outcast.

fire and blood is really the perfect text for the wiki warriors and i think thats why there are so many fans who act like theres no reason to care about any characters but died-in-childbirth blonde #3 or daeron the diva #16. like they don't want characters or interiority they want a bullet pointed list of things they can point at fed to them in an easily digestable way. not since the marauders fandom has a fan community so transparently used character names to project their ocs onto

I hate Robert but Rhaegar is the same, he messed with a 14 year old girl for a prophecy and not only that he made her his lover, he besmirched his honor and made him a bastard and condemned an innocent child to be repudiated, the double standards are horrible considering that both are the same, so they had deaths, what do they deserve?

How are they the same? The arguments you use against Rhaegar are null and void.

14-year-old girl you say? In Westeros that age is considered suitable for a girl to be wed. You have to understand that in the Westerosi society age works differently due to unstoppable wars and very low level of available medical help. Just like in real Middle Ages. A girl of 20 is already a spinster and has no prospects if unmarried, and a woman at 40 is old. Jaehaerys I died at 69 and was called the Old King.

Messed for prophecy reasons? Why? Where in the text did you find proof of that? It's your fanon interpretation which has no connection to reality.

Besmirched his honor? You see, according to Ned Stark's version of his life he has a bastard, which means he once had a lover. And guess what? Everyone still calls Ned honourable.

Condemned an innocent child to be repudiated? By the time Jon was born Rhaegar was already dead, so he was incapable of condemning the boy to anything. Jon's misery at Winterfell was mostly due to Ned's inaction towards Catelyn's behaviour. Brynden Rivers was perfectly fine with his position of king's bastard, by the way.

As for Robert, even if we agree that Rhaegar and Lyanna's actions started the series of events that later led to Robert's Rebellion, there's a huge difference between Robert and Rhaegar. And most importantly, difference in their intentions.

We know very little about Rhaegar, but from what we know there's no single mention of him harming anyone on purpose. At the same time Robert closes his eyes on the murder of children because he wanted them dead, and later he once again wants to kill Dany — a pregnant innocent girl, he beats Cersei and he fucks prostitutes simply to deliver his own pleasure and not caring about their feelings.

So, no, Rhaegar and Robert are not the same, they are incomparable.

"As swift as the wind he rides, and behind him his khalasar covers the earth, men without number, with arakhs shining in their hands like blades of razor grass. Fierce as a storm this prince will be. His enemies will tremble before him, and their wives will weep tears of blood and rend their flesh in grief. The bells in his hair will sing his coming, and the milk men in the stone tents will fear his name." The old woman trembled and looked at Dany almost as if she were afraid. "The prince is riding, and he shall be the stallion who mounts the world."

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"The stallion is the khal of khals promised in ancient prophecy, child. He will unite the Dothraki into a single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth, or so it was promised. All the people of the world will be his herd."

no amount of anti nuke evil war and death machine lizard propaganda will ever get me to turn on dragons bc im a cat person