Some People Have This Weird Fixation About Making Klaus Choose Caroline Over Hope, Especially In Fanfics.

Some people have this weird fixation about making Klaus choose Caroline over Hope, especially in fanfics. I’ve seen fics where Klaus abandons Hope, or kills Hayley for disrespecting Caroline, or just ignores Hope in favor of Caroline. Like some people forget Hope’s his daughter - of course, he’s going to choose her over everyone. I think any decent parent would choose their child over a potential girlfriend/boyfriend. And Hayley is Hope’s mom, a very important person in her life. I don’t think Klaus would kill Hayley unless she posed a threat to Hope or if she tried to take Hope away from him. Honestly, I don’t think he would even tolerate people openly disrespecting Hayley in front of Hope, regardless of who it was.

Another thing that I’ve noticed is how people are so determined to make Klaus a father figure to the twins, particularly Lizzie. I’ve read a fic in which Klaus clearly and openly favored Lizzie over his own daughter - which would never happen. I think that if Klaus and Caroline actually did end up together, he still wouldn’t be that present in the twins lives. Since he is overprotective to the extreme, I think that he would hold some resentment over how the twins treated Hope in their younger years. He’s petty enough to hold a grudge against a kid. And anyway, I don’t ever see Alaric allowing Lizzie or Josie to get close to Klaus, no matter what Caroline says.

I don’t know… it’s just weird that people keep diminishing Hope’s relationship with her own father to benefit their ship. Sorry for the rambling.

People fail to remember that Klaus is his own person and not an extension of the ships they like, and that ship half of the time is klaroline because they are obssesed with making him her personal puppy, as if that ever happened in canon.

Granted, Klaus said a few nice things to her and did like two good things to make Caroline not feel so guilty about wanting to fuck him, but other than that there's no way he would ever seriously chose her over his family, especially his own daughter. He chose to save her over Rebekah back in Mystic Falls because his sister is immortal, Caroline isn't.

I've never actually read long klaroline/klamille/klayley fanfiction. Sure, I use to read some oneshots from time to time because they have really good writing, but this fanfics I'll talk about best used to show up while I was in the klaus or mikaelson tag and I used to take a look because I was curious. It has some wild elements, that's for sure.

I've seen a lot of fanfics where they make Caroline some weird ass hybrid/tribrid that manages to be a werewolf, witch and vampire all in one and it's like wtf. They complain constantly about Hope's existence because she breaks canon and yet they make this baby vampire the biggest Mary Sue ever. Yes, the producers created Hope because they wanted to create their own magical baby like Renaissance from Twilight, but they make a fool of themselves by making Caroline be anything but a vampire. Caroline was incredibly mean and a complete hypocrite as a human and don't bring me the "she was insecure and always in Elena's shadow" because I'm insecure too and that doesn't make me be a bitch to the people who love me. Klaus was always threatening her whenever she spoke in a way he didn't like, and that was when she was already the "sunshine vampire" people claim to love so badly, so people who think he would even let her live if he met her as a human are laughable.

Klaroline shippers are so pressed about Hayley being Hope's mother, I can't even tell you how many posts, videos and weird fanfics I've seen of Caroline being her mother and being the "Mikaelson's light". I've said it a lot of times, but the Mikaelson wouldn't like Caroline at all: Rebekah and Hayley were constantly slutshamed by her, Elijah hates people who insult/hurt his family, Kol was literally killed by one of her best friends and he would not be okay with that, Finn couldn't care less and Freya probably just heard bad things from her, if she even knew about her existence. And in top of that, Caroline literally threw a party when she thought Klaus died.

When they have any Mikaelson or Klaus, especially Klaus, kill Hayley, I just lose it. Why the hell would Klaus ever do that? He literally lost his mind when she died, he was a mess and they don't even want to admit he loved Hayley: new flash, he did. She was his family, the mother of his daughter, probably his best and only friend and he loved her. Not in a romantic way, but they still get pressed because how dare Klaus have feelings for anyone other than their queen Caroline.

Also, their obsession with making Caroline be called queen? It's creepy and weird, it must be really annoying for them that Klaus only called Cami and Hayley a queen. Those two girls were a thousand times closer to be considered family by him than Caroline ever could, and his siblings did care for those women too.

This reminds me of a really good point in klaroline fics: if Caroline is the one pregnant with Hope, Klaus will react a lot better. I just can't see this, Klaus’s daddy issues are literally the main point of his character. He hated Mikael as much as he desired his love, he always yearned for one of his parents to care and no one did: Mikael, because he was a piece of shit, Esther, because she was terrified of her husband and there's literally no other reason in canon that explains why she allowed Mikael's abuse and Ansel, because he was forced to stay away and was killed twice. That isn't gonna change just because he got Caroline, sorry to tell you.

I can see him reacting less murderer and less threatening. Alkaline covers this so well and it's one of my favorite Klaus fanfics, if he has a romantic relationship with the woman he got pregnant he wouldn't tell the witches to kill her and their baby, but I do think he would still think at first she cheated, not only because of his paranoia but also because he is supposedly incapable of having kids.

The whole Lizzie and Josie thing is really a good point! I agree, Klaus would never favor the twins over Hope or even Marcel. Those are his kids, he raised them and he never met Josie and Lizzie until they were like what, twelve? Thirteen? He even said people needed to ask him permission to even talk to Hope, he would 100% hold a grudge against the Saltzman twins for being mean to his daughter. I also think that the whole "Klaus would like Lizzie more than Josie" is because physically and in terms of personality, Lizzie is the one that resembles Caroline the most. So when writers have him openly prefer Lizzie isn't only weird, it has some uncomfortable pedophilic vibes.

I've only seen klaroline and some klayley shippers say that about klope, how he would love x girl more than Hope and etc. I hardly doubt they even remember canon Klaus, just their fanfic version because if Klaus ever had to chose he would always chose his daughter. I've also seen, in a lot of fanfics, not only klaroline ones, how Klaus would love more or completely ignore his oc kid (they also have Hope he a complete bitch from the start, even if it's her seven years old version) and it's just strange. There are a lot of reasons why Klaus and Marcel didn't have a stable relationship, mainly all the bad blood between them and the fact that Marcel was already grown up by the time they met, but he never hesitated to put himself in danger for him. Klaus even refused to kill him, knowing he was endangering Hope. I just can't see him ignoring his kid, especially if he got to actually see him/her grow up.

This is not bashing to the writers btw! Sorry if it came out like that.

Matt and Caroline, characters who added absolutely nothing to the trama and one of them was only there bcs fan favorite, got to be at the ball and yet my girl Bonnie couldn't???

I will always hate the Mikealson Ball episode simply because Bonnie wasn’t there. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I find it weird when people don't admit the Mikaelson are lowkey racists and that they keep dismissing and treating people who don't share their blood like shit.

Like, Klaus mocked his adoptive son whip wounds and they all lived in the plantation where Marcel lived as a slave, not to talk about the way Elijah was always talking him down and how Freya and Kol acted with his existence: she didn't give a damn about him, suggesting they should kill him and Kol probably was just jealous, if I'm being honest, but my point still remains. And after Elijah killed Marcel, Hayley had the nerve to act as if he wasn't as important as Hope (of course, the biological white daughter she shares with Klaus) and then they proceded to fuck after hearing him confess his blame.

Like, what the hell? I don't think the Mikaelson are the kind of people who actually insult you based in your skin color, but they never failed to act as white saviors and to play the victim whenever someone tried to kill them, as if they hadn't made absolutely everyone completely miserable.

god forbid 5000 year old girls do anything

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"Reality shifting" is the popular term that people use because that's literally what it is, shifting realities, but quantum jumping would be the scientific name and usually the one I pick when explaining shifting to anyone because despite being the same, quantum jumping is generally a more accepted term than just saying "I can go to any reality I want".

Shifting has been part of a lot of religions since the very beginning, it's not a tiktok trend and it's not nothing new. There is a side of tiktok called "shiftok" though, that is a big community dedicated to shifting, it was full of disinformation and kinda rude people back in 2020-2021 but it's not exactly bad now, they know what's true and what isn't and they've come a long way. There's also the shiftblr, the amino community and the twitter one, but I'm just in shiftok and in the tumblr one, but a good and reliable source of information is Reddit!

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Script: basically, this is like a curriculum if I can call it that, we don't need one but a lot of people including me always write one to calm our anxiety and reasons. In here, you write everything you want, mostly your personal data, such as your name, family, friends, appearance, etc. It can be on paper or in your phone.

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Respawn: cutting all ties with your current reality by scripting you forget all about it, therefore you won't be able to return to that reality because you won't have memories of it. Saying you won't be able to come back is wording it poorly though, because you can definitely go back, but you probably won't because you just won't remember it.

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Cr: current reality, basically the reality where you're in right now.

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Method: a method that makes it easier to reach your dr, but this isn't needed at all. Just by setting intention, you can arrive to your dr in seconds.

Subliminal: an audio mixed on purpose with positive affirmations that are perceived by the subconscious directly. This isn't just for shifting, there are a lot of subliminals out there, but some people listen to them to make them feel more connected to their dr.

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