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If someone hasn't drawn this already, pls we need a visual to go w this audio 🙏🙏🙏 @zaana @cloned-eyes @shyranno @lornaka

Nah vod. Fox didn't make a split second choice in the moment. Palpatine wasn't going to take a chance on Fives after he told him everything. He revealed his own complicity to Fives, he wasn't going to let him live. 100% Fox had orders to kill before Fives even found Kix. Though yes, given the information Fox had, he had no reason to disobey those orders. The blame there lies with Shaak Ti, who did know that Fives had a point, she also knew Nala Se had tired to sabotage the investigation & that Fives wasn't being paranoid. She was too trusting of Nala Se & Palpatine.

However, Fox is portrayed as cold not just because he killed a brother, but also because he (and the rest of the Corries) went hard on Ahsoka. And that time, the order Anakin gave them was to take her alive & to switch to stun. And what did they do? They used projectile weapons on her instead.

In those two arcs, we see Corries are too quick to execute justice themselves rather than detaining the suspect with minimal force & letting a proper investigation take place. We can assume that for Fives that's bc they had orders to do so; but for Ahsoka they went against Anakin's orders and took matters into their own hands. So it raises they question of whether, much like real police, they're just used shooting first and asking questions later.

But, to be fair, that's what they're trained to do bc that suits Palpatine. At the end of the day, no matter what they do, all clones, even Corries, are victims of Palpatine's manipulation & Jedi incompetence.

Let's talk about he unwarranted Fox hate.

I often see that a lot of people tend to hate on Commander Fox, often portraying him as a villainous kind of character or very cold and selfish compared to the more heroic and beloved Commander Thorn.

I see these two characters portrayed as "the good commander" and "the bad commander" of the Coruscant guard, when in reality they are both pretty much the same character.

But just for the fact that Fox killed Fives, the public decided to label him as a "bad guy".

But that's not the case, in fact if we changed characters and placed Thorn hunting after Fives and Fox on the diplomatic mission, chances are both situations would have ended the same way: with Fives dead at the hands of Thorn and Fox dying heroically for the republic.

Why is this?

Well for starters we need to understand what a Coruscant guard is.

These were clones that were raised and trained differently from common clone troopers as their assignment was to act as a security police force for Coruscant. As a result, they dealt with different threats than normal troopers.

Clone troopers knew what their enemies looked like, the separatist forces were easy to recognize in the battlefield. But for the Coruscant guard the enemy could take many forms. They would not see battle droids on the streets attempting on the lives of the senate. They would have to deal with terrorists, dressed as common folk or unconscious work droids. They had to be more alert and more skeptic of their surroundings 24/7 as the fate of the republic laid in their hands.

One false move could cost the lives of the chancellor and the senate and with them the Republic would fall. That is the weight these clones carry on their shoulders. This is the responsibility that both Fox and Thorn carry along with the other commanders in red.

Both Fox and Thorn are very similar in canon.

Fox appears more than Thorn and we can see from his canon(and legends) appearances that he is a fiercely loyal clone to the republic, hard working and honorable like many of his brothers. He is the first to charge into battle, leading his troops with bravery and has little patience for criminals.

Thorn seems to have a similar sense of duty, loyalty and bravery that Fox has, as he also stands his ground during battle, refusing to surrender til the very last second. We sadly don't see more of Thorn beyond his one and only appearance.

So why do people hate Fox so much, when he and Thorn are not that different?

Well, he killed Fives.

But I don't think he should be hated for it.

To explain this, join me to see things through the fox's eye, and learn the other side of the story.

We as the audience know Fives since he is a Shiny, and we see him grow up, level up, become an ARC trooper and survive many perils. We see him discover that one plot that we know causes so much death and destruction and even tho we know the ending of the story, we want to root for him and we get frustrated when we see no-one hears him out. We also, as the audience, know that Palpatine is the bad guy, he is playing chess against himself and ruining the lives of countless people for his own sick pleasure in his path to rule the Galaxy.

But Fox doesn't know any of this.

He doesn't know Palpatine is secretly Dath Sidious. He doesn't know there is a secret plot to destroy the Jedi and that he and his brothers are just pawns in a greater scheme.

As far as he is concerned, the Chancellor is the head of the Republic, and if anything happens to him it might mean the end of the Republic and the death of not only him but all his brothers. It's his duty to protect Palpatine from harm. And there are a lot of people trying to hurt him.

He also doesn't know Fives.

He might have heard of him as Fives is a respected ARC trooper from the 501st. But he doesn't know him personally like we do, like Rex does. He has no real connection to him other than Fives being another Clone like him.

So when he hears that there is this erratic clone that tried to kill Palpatine and is now on the run, of course he would see Fives as a threat.

Remember that the Kaminoans covered the whole inhibitor chip thing by saying it was a behavioral regulator, that kept Clones from becoming aggressive and erratic. The Kaminoan even took the example of Tup's chip malfunction as proof that without the chip the clones turn irrational and unpredictable. This is the information the characters have. The ONLY ONES that know the truth are Palpatine, the Kaminoans and Fives.

So in Fox's eyes, Fives turned erratic because he also has a chip malfunction. He became irrational, unpredictable, erratic and has attempted to kill someone before. He might try to do so again and is now on the run. It's his duty as head of the Coruscant guard to find him and stop him before he hurts someone.

When he finds Fives, he has Anakin and Rex as hostages and is talking nonsense, acting erratic and paranoic. He could hurt Anakin or Rex, two very important and prominent figures in the GAR and their deaths could result in disadvantage against the Separatist forces. Fox cannot afford that. And yet he doesn't enter shooting, he points his gun at Fives and orders him to raise his hands and surrender. He gives Fives a chance to go peacefully, to de-escalate the situation. And when he sees that Fives looks at the blaster on his side he even yells at him to stop, he asks him not to do it, not to take the gun and make things worse. But Fives doesn't listen, he takes the gun yelling and Fox has to make a split-second decision.

In a moment like that, when you are a second away of a disaster, when you, your brothers or the hostages could get killed by the shot of a unhinged person. You don't get enough time to think.

Fox reacts and shoots Fives to stop him from harming others.

Sure, we could argue that Fox could have used stun instead, or that he could have shot Five's hand, anything to not kill him.

But we need to understand that in situations like that, when tensions are high, then it's life or death and you have to take a split-second decision, you don't usually have time to be rational.

Even the most trained people can't always take the most rational option, and often choose the best option they can.

Fox took the best option he could in that situation.

And I don't think that Thorn, Thire, Stone or any of the other Shock trooper Commanders would have done any different, any better.

They all would have been faced with the same dire situation, and they all would have had to take the split-second decision.

One could argue that the fact that Fox was not present in the circle of Coruscant guards taking off their helmets as they mourn Fives, could imply that he was indifferent to his death.

And maybe? However I don't think that's the case.

Remember that Fox tried to stop Fives, he tried to give him a chance to surrender and in the end he couldn't stop. He had to shoot a fellow clone. A clone whose face he sees in all his brothers, the companions he trained with, fought with, work with everyday. He did not wanted to kill Fives.

That has to be very haunting.

I like to believe that Fox is not the mourning circle, because he had to take a step back to come to terms to what he has done.

Fox has been proven to be an honorable man. How can he stand a join the mourning of a man he just killed? How can he see into Rex's eyes as he cries for the close brother he has lost? Maybe he felt like he had no right to be there.

Then again this is just my speculation, considering what little canon we have of Fox.

In general I don't think we should hate on Fox for Fives' death. Sure, Fives is easily my second favorite clone, way above Fox in my raitings, and I suffered a lot when he died. But I do think that the situation was way to out of hand and Fox did as best as he could to keep everyone safe.

Fives was not at fault either. Remember he was drugged, and he was feeling frustrated, paranoic, confused, he was panicking and not thinking clearly.

The only one at fault here is Palpatine and his schemes.

That said...

I'm not saying that you should stop portraying Fox as a cold and ruthless character.

Hell, I myself like to represent him as a more stoic and sarcastic person compared to his brothers and I've seen many different portrayals of this character, with many different personalities that I love!

You are free to a enjoy the fandom as you wish after all!

Just keep this post in mind and please don't hate on people who like Fox as a character.

We all deserve to enjoy Star Wars and it's wonderful characters that inspire us.

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Well, this has been my Rant! If you reached all the way down here thank you for reading ♥

And may the force be with you.

Reading the Cestus Deception and that scene in the fresher where they're juggling soap...aksjdndj they're all so bbg. Also, Nate walks around & sleeps naked 🫦 And I can't with these descriptions of how perfectly toned they all are... "surprisingly dexterous fingers?" OML stop 🥵 (don't stop)

Trooper simps! Stop what you're doing & listen....there's a 'choose your own adventure' Clone Wars kids book where you're Plo Koon's padawan, you meet up with an Alpha ARC called Trantos & you both attempt to foil an evil Seppie scientist's plot... and among the various storylines you can choose are:

1) getting captured and Trantos saves you, bursting in, guns blazing w a detonite stick in his mouth

2) escaping a trap & and meeting up with his Nautolan bounty hunter side chick in an underwater city and persuading her to give you information

3) accidentally joining Dooku's training camp & fighting Asajj Ventress to protect him

4) getting mistankenly arrested by the Baran Do for bringing misfortune to their planet

5) ending up in a cantina and have your brains adled by a mysterious laser weapon

6) getting sucked into a black hole & ending up on a swamp planet that has nothing to do with the mission & a flower kills you...

There are more possible plot lines, but you get the idea. They're all bonkers and a ton of fun to read through. Depending on what you choose, Trantos is either this sassy ARC who's annoyed w your incompetence or your best friend in chaos.

It's a kids' book, so a very quick read and its hilarious. "Clone Wars: Dooku's Secret Army" 10/10

OMG DEE BRADLEY BAKER WAS JUST ASKED ON A LIVESTREAM WHERE CODY IS & HE SAID HE HOPES HE MEETS UP AGAIN WITH REX & WOLFFE & HE'D LOVE TO DO A SHOW ABOUT THEM 😱🥹😍🙏

Echo would be watching the reflection of the clouds & how the light changes, when Fives & Hardcase drive speeders by and splash him

*Echo groan* "not again" 🤦🏽‍♂️

What would Dogma and Tup do with a puddle?

Dogma would probably want nothing to do with it (because he doesn't want to risk the chance of getting water in his boots or that gif you posted ) and Tup would probably playfully kick the water about in an attempt to splash him.