The Weakness Of 8th House Native/Scorpio Placements

The weakness of 8th house native/Scorpio placements

in my observation of these natives, if they have their moon or venus in the 8th house or scorpio sign, they tend to be very emotional rather than logical. I have seen a lot of them trusting people easily. After learning through their gullibility, they become cynic and dont trust easily again. So the stereotypical hard to trust image comes after many unwholesome experiences.

They are not very rational. They tend to hold on to grudges and revenge sentiment instead of letting go. They might push and pull, test your waters, play mind games to see if you abandon them. They crave deep emotional connection. They want to merge their souls with their loved ones. So when their parent, partner, sibling, friend, even pet show affection to others, they get very jealous and possessive. This is why they fear betrayal so much because they tend to invest their soul and heart into the beloved.

Their decisions are emotional not logical. They are the ones to love for person not the money. They are prone to fuck up many life choices because of impulsivity and lack of rational thinking. They use heart not mind. They are easy to manipulate because of their tendency to go with the feels.

Since they are so intense, most of the times they are lost in their feelings. They can't distinguish feelings from facts. Their perception is clouded by feelings and they wonder why others are not as emotional as them. The positive side is that they can be genuinely empathetic, kind, devoted. The negative side is that the world can be cruel and selfish to them.

They need to acknowledge and treasure their nature. Realize that your gift of emotional depth was not given to you to let others use you. But to explore your spiritual nature, occult gifts and metaphysical experience of life. Scorpio is the most spiritual sign. It can open the gates of enlightenment.

I dont know if moksha is possible but I do know that self realization is pretty close to moksha. Please understand, scorpio people, that you're different from others. Give them a very successful and handsome person but they will love that person for their soul bond and emotional connection not their money or status. This can be their weakness because the world does not work like that. They have to be transactional. Do not be a doormat otherwise you ill only get sorrow and disappointment.

Friendly tips for emotional people/Scorpio/cancer/pisces placements/4th/8th/12th house placements:

I have observed that people who are emotional thinkers, who have Scorpio cancer pisces inner placements, who have planets in 4th 8th 12th houses often face problems in their social, family and friendly life. If the people in their environment are emotionally intelligent then it is good. Otherwise, they may face problems in expressing themselves.

Emotional thinkers act on their emotions rather than logic. The worst kind of audience for them is someone who is emotionally illiterate. These people will show no empathy, no remorse, no kindness. Air/Fire dominant people can be really cruel towards water people.

Water people are just more sensitive and perceptive than others. Air/Fire people can gossip, bully, ridicule, roast each other like it is nothing but water people take things to heart and get offended + defensive.

Air/fire people can also lie, gaslight, manipulate like it is nothing. They are naturally that way. Water people are prone to people pleasing and being submissive. People love to get emotional reaction from you. These are the people to cry over a puppy video and rage over slight threat.

Add to it childhood trauma, and water babies are fucked up. Now you have an emotionally sensitive person living on survival mode. Oh my my!

So how to deal with social life when you're a water baby?

Learn to control your emotions. I often mention this in my blog but how to do this? Water babies are deep into their emotions. This emotional intensity is their strength as well as their weakness. They feel deeply. I again and again advice studying stoicism. It will change your life. Practice controlling your emotions with your trustworthy friends and family.

Prioritize your needs and wants. Dont be a doormat for others. Serve yourself first then serve others. Air/Fire people naturally know they are self centered but water babies can be lost as to whom they are to serve. Dont be like "I do so much for you but you dont care".

Trust a person for their action and you will never be fooled by their words. Water babies really trust what others say. They are naive and sincere like that. It doesn't even cross their mind that others can lie and manipulate them. Beware of those who lie. They are sure to backbite you someday.

Not just their personality but their surroundings also is determined by their planets and placements. They can attract both wholesome and unwholesome people into their lives. How to avoid unwholesome people? Boundaries and self esteem. When you assert your boundaries, toxic people will leave you. If you have weak boundaries, they will eat you alive. Trust me, I know this 😢

Water babies are some of the most authentic people. They know who they are. If they find company of people who also water babies, they will flourish. Beware of narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths because they will cause you much karmic loss.

Learn about transactional relationships. Nothing is unconditional. Not even a mother's love. A mother loves her child because of natural connection, obligation, preservation of offspring and to fulfill her own emotional needs. Romantic relationships are transactions = companionship, conversations, mutual interests, similar traits, sexual needs, financial needs. Friendships are transactions: conversation, similar traits, companionship, learning and laughter. Please know that there is no such thing as unconditional love or devoted love. Learn self preservation.

Some of the closest people to me are the water babies. I often see them being bullied by air/fire placements. My loved ones toughened up and bore it. But soon we realized that the world can be a cruel place. Air/fire people know this. When they lack any water placements, they can be some of the most cruel people around you.

So, water babies, find company of fellow water babies and befriend them using aforementioned tips. Best of luck, sweeties! 💙

Scorpio placements really need to calm the kid down

These are some of the most dramatic people in astro world. One can call them a puppy--they are that intense, spontaneous and maniac.

An undeveloped scorpio though could be really problematic. They are intense, impulsive, rash, defensive, possessive, irrational, emotional, attention seeker, controlling, manipulative and drama queens. It is not their fault either. Most scorpio placements have problems with people. People treat them to the extreme levels. They are ridiculed, bullied, hated for no reason and dismissed or ignored. As a result, growing up, they become defensive and live on survival mode.

What they need to learn is to calm down their inner child. The philosophy of tao teaches to go with the flow. Similarly, stoicism teaches us to follow reason and virtues. They will benefit the most from studying stoicism because it is all about learning to manage your emotions. A Stoic doesn't act on their emotions but evaluates the choices in front of them and work according to the virtues.

One problem that these natives often face is the problem of emotional thinking. They are not logical. They might even lack common sense sometimes. I have observed that these natives are some of the most irrational people in decision making. Their mind works emotionally and not rationally. If they feel something they act on it. They dont stand to think why they are feeling that way and whether it is proper to react to this situation.

Often these natives are born to parents who also have similar placements so it is also a learned behaviour and thought process for these natives. You can really learn to control your emotions by altering your thought process. For eg, start calculating the cost benefit analysis of your actions. Texting that crush out of maniac episode? Picking up fight over random nothing? Eating tubs of ice cream on a sad evening? Falling in love with a man you met last week? Breaking up with your partner to test their commitment? These are unnecessary tactics. It shows lack of self control. It shows lack of maturity.

Scorpio placements have the best potential to do psychoanalysis and shadow work because of their proponsity to be in touch with their feelings. But it is only possible once they lose the fear of not having control, abandonment, playing mind games, rejection, criticism, etc. Your fears are defense mechanism.

Another mindset these natives have is the mind of perfection/idealization. They idealize even worship their partner. In terms of career, studies and lifestyle as well, they have perfectionist expectations and delusional thinking. No, other people are not perfect. Grass is not greener on the other side. Every single person has shadow side, darkness, flaws, faults, mistakes. Anyone who pretends to be perfect is fooling you, whether on media or in reality. These natives have parents who also had unrealistic perfectionist expectations from them so they grow up thinking this is the norm of life. It is not.

These natives also struggle with trusting too easily. There is a sort of naivety and gullibility in them like a little toddler who trusts people blindly. They might have black and white thinking. They either see people as all good or all bad depending upon how they make them feel. They are prone to exploitation and manipulation because of gullibility and naivety. I am not even making it up. Observe any Scorpio placement native in your life. They all show the same intensity.

This distinguishes them from other "maniac" energy signs like Gemini Libra or Aquarius. Scorpio native is gifted in occult if only they learn to get handle on their emotions. Air signs are not naturally into occult.

You can learn to calm down and savor the little blessings of life. Accept the people for who they are. Do not wear your heart on your sleeves.

For undeveloped and immature astro:

--All water placements have a "favourite person" whom they are obsessed with. This person could be anyone or even an animal. If they analyse themselves, they will realize that their favourite person is actually their own traits. It is themselves whom they imagine and project on an external person.

--All fire placements have a "favourite person" person whom they mirror. They mirror the words, actions and style of that person. This person could be their parent/child/sibling/friend/partner/fiction role model or even imaginary person whom they mirror.

For some reason, these two elements have a fragile and unclear self image. They are also prone to be somewhere between the range of "borderline to narcissist" in Cluster B spectrum.

This is my observation of these placements. I am researching more into it.

Please do culture of the life of 8th house moon men

Hi! As you guys can see on my blog, I mostly write about things that I have personally experienced so there's an abundance of 8th house theme. I have moon in 8th house and so does my brother. But I am Sco rising and he is Leo rising.

Depending upon the sign, the 8th house native develops their personality. Both my brother and I are born to the same mom and have 8th house moon, but our personalities are very different. He has moon in pisces in 8th house=visionary, calm, stoic. I have moon in gemini in 8th house=dramatic, sentimental, scatterbrained (but now I have matured and calmed down).

The first thing that comes to mind for 8th house moon natives is Mom. Especially during their childhood, their mom was emotionally turbulent. She gave her children conditional love. Mom behaved differently in public from private life. Mom likely had low self esteem and unstable self image, hence why she behaved differently with different people.

The native tends to have anxious or avoidant attachment style. It repeats in their adulthood resulting in intense, secretive and traumatizing relationship.

The native appeases their mother. Becomes a people pleaser. Native's emotional needs are overlooked. Mom is the center of attention. Native tends to walk on eggshells to not spoil mom's mood.

One good thing about this placement is that sometimes in their life, when the 8th house lord's time period begins, the native becomes self aware of their subconscious expectations. Such native turns to astrology and spirituality to find answers to their life.

Mom and native both could be loners. They likely spend a lot of time alone, indifferent to the rest of the world. Mom and native both have secret personalities that they hide from the public eye. Native has to undertake a difficult task of unlearning childhood patterns and building a new personality.

Native never quite feels like oneself. They change a lot. Every morning they wake up with a new sense of identity. Who was I yesterday? Who am I today? Their feelings are intense and stormy.

They transform a lot. Physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, material world--they transform in every aspect of their lives. They tend to shed their skin and become someone new. The transformation is neither easy nor quick though. It is a long journey of contemplation, self destruction and reconstruction that they go through. The rebirth is never really complete so they always feel like they are stuck in an eternal stage of metamorphosis.

Unlike venus in the 8th house, they are not likely to attract low quality romantic partners, but they should learn to solve their emotional issues before they get into a relationship. They are likely interested in psychiatry, crime related courses or movies or novels, confidential information like occult, secrets of life.

At some point in their life, they will become aware of their mother's emotional dysfunction but they keep it hidden from public disclosure because of psychic reasons. These natives can see through people, tell who's lying, spot shadows in others. They will benefit from keeping emotional distance from their mother while still taking care of her. Just dont try to love her "unconditionally". Keep your boundaries and dont try to imitate what you see in movies. Not all mom-child relationships have to be picture perfect.

With age and experience, they will learn to master their emotional reactions. They can go from high drama to low drama people. Prefer to keep low profile in public. Have an interpychic relationship with their mother. Mother herself was likely very emotional, psychic properties and unstable.

In this age, society is so structured that we tend to call spiritual and emotional sensitivity as mental illnesses and superstition. But the 8th house moon native know that there is more to life than what meets the eye. They are curious about the afterlife and death.

They either love to watch horror movies or are damn scared of them. They have a love and hate relationship with the darkness and what lies in the dark. Whether movies or their personal unconscious, they are afraid of what they might see. They are afraid of uncertainty, unpredictability and the unknown. The abyss terrifies them. It intrigues them a lot too. Their emotional intensity is a tool to psychoanalyze their unconscious. But they also feel like the darkness is where their home is. They are very aware of their shadow self and integration.

Undeveloped, developing and developed energies in astrology:

I often see in astro world that people talk about how Aries, Libra, Gemini are this, that and whatever. Scorpio Pisces Capricorn are this, that and whatever. But according to me, the personality of a person is constantly evolving. So I like to break it down in three parts:

UNDEVELOPED ENERGY: Any planetary placement or sign if undeveloped can show its worst traits and characteristics. For eg, we often read how Scorpio are so loyal and devoted but they can also be the most cheaters and unfaithful if they are undeveloped and not self aware.

DEVELOPING ENERGY: This is where all of us are. We are a work in progress. We are living, learning, unlearning, learning again, exploring ourselves and experiencing life. Psyche has a life of its own.

DEVELOPED ENERGY: When a native has battled their worst traits and improved themselves through habits, inner work, discipline, authenticity, skills, knowledge, they show developed energy. They show the best qualities of their planets and signs because they have mastered their self and integrated their worst sides of traits. This is what it means to use astro for shadow work. So for eg, a Gemini placement can be grounded, less spoken, stable minded, organized (contrary to their image being scatterbrained, unstable, blabbering) because they have overcome the pull of the negative sides of their birth chart.

What I am saying might not make sense at first instance. But think about it. From birth, we are constantly evolving and growing. At different ages and life stages, we show different traits and personality. Our personality decides our career school studies relationships family life hobbies and quality of life.

I think that when the time period of any planet starts, the native begins to battle the low energy of that planet as per their birth chart which they battle and overcome. Then they see positive results in their life like improved relationship, improved mental health, improved finance, better job opportunities, etc.