I Hope It Does, But Only After I've Fucked Your Parents And Given Them A Kid They'll Actually Love.

I hope it does, but only after I've fucked your parents and given them a kid they'll actually love.

"Why don't you tell people what kind of fictional porn you like?"

Why don't you tell them you spend your free time telling real people to kill themselves and arguing about the rights of people who literally do not exist.

I'll tell my mom that I read about Tony Stark pounding Peter Parker until his ass is as open as a 24/7 McDonald's if you tell yours that you wholeheartedly tell people you hope their families burn alive and they get raped because they ship a human and a celestial being together.

While we're at it, sure, I'll tell my boss I like monsterfucking as long as you tell yours that your break-time hobby is scouring the internet stalking people and harassing them over their kinks.

I might be the freak with a tentacle dildo and a bookmarks page full of nasty, kinky incest, but you're the freak who could literally kill someone.

I know which one I'd rather be.

Its interesting how some people view being corrected on something now that we're entrenched in an era of 'call outs' and 'cancelling.'

Its also interesting, though, how correcting someone has gone from generically pointing out the flaw or inaccuracy to demanding they grovel on their knees and never enjoy life again.

I'd honestly love for us to gravitate back into the era where corrections and challenges weren't just excuses to lash out at people or demean them or follow the herd. Inherently, I don't think offering corrections or challenges should ever come from a point of just wanting to hurt someone or be superior to them.

We grow by learning. We share knowledge. We aid each other in growth.

Being corrected can be embarrassing, but its a part of life. We're not right all the time. And seeing people who are incorrect can be frustrating, but it makes them no less deserving of patience and basic respect. Even if you think they should know better.

i hate this weird trend in fandom where subtext is seen as a Bad Thing and is only done if the creators are too cowardly to commit to showing something. i hate to break it to you but nuance and layers are what make stories interesting, if you have no subtext then you have a very flat story

Every time you send me anon hate I'm gonna pick some real nasty fanfiction and get off to it.

Nobody owes you constant explanations about exactly how and why they're consuming media. Its exhausting and irrelevant.

Nobody has to consistently reiterate they acknowledge the flaws with a ship or relationship.

[ ship ] verb. to take an interest in or hope for a romantic or sexual relationship between (fictional characters or real people), whether or not the romance or attraction actually exists.

I have no input on fans defending their ships, particularly in regards to a fandom I know nothing about and am therefore unqualified to speak on, but I really do disagree with the approach that toxic ships can only be appreciated like little lab experiments.

Nobody owes you specific phrasing about how or why they like a ship either. You're welcome to disagree with how they ship or perceive a ship, but telling people they need to constantly define their approach to a ship is just stripping fandom spaces of their enjoyable nature.

You have every right to oppose someone's opinion, perspective or approach to a ship, but not to dictate that they must only approach a ship in a specific way or be overt about the way in which they are shipping.

Its supposed to be fun. Sometimes, shipping is just shipping.

“shipping an unhealthy ship isn't inherently a bad thing because maybe you just want to see themes of abuse and toxicity explored in media.”

i agree. but i feel like there's a difference between finding a toxic ship interesting and actively shipping it. shipping two characters means that you want them to end up together and you think that they're a good match.

for example, i find simon and grace from infinity train to be an interesting ship. granted, they weren't a canon ship but a one-sided romantic interest was hinted, at least. but even if they were canon, i wouldn't ship them.

similarly, i also find rose quartz and pearl to be an interesting ship, despite their relationship being really unhealthy. but i don't “ship them”. i don't make posts talking about how cute they are or trying to prove that they belong with each other.

i like these ships because it's complex and well-written, not because it's desirable or good for either of the characters.

so yeah, if you say you ship two characters, you should be prepared to hear people talk about it being unhealthy. if you merely like a ship that is unhealthy because it's an interesting thing to explore in fiction, you should phrase it that way.

a lot of c//a stans actively talk about their ship being the best or being really healthy and wholesome, but when someone disagrees with them, they immediately go “i like the ship because it's toxic, i'm not into boring vanilla ships”. then just say that? instead of trying to prove that your ship is meant to be?

#i think better yet everyone needs to remember that if anyone else made a respectful romantic advance on you#it would be considered fucking mean and rude to tell people what about them is unattractive to you#its not any nicer to do that to trans people. literally just say no thank you i don't think of you that way. like you would to anyone else#idfk why everyone is so caught up on the idea of finding a respectful way of informing trans people that they're unattractive to you

This wasn't about trans people or finding a way to "respectfully tell them what about them is unattractive to you." People can talk about bodies and genitals without it automatically being about trans people.

This is a general discussion about how its often seen as a negative thing or a personal insult if you find someone unattractive or aren't compatible with what they're packing.

Not personally attractive to someone =/= ugly or unattractive as a whole.

I did use genitals as an example (in terms of what is or isn't demeaning language because trust me some people do push to know why you're rejecting them) and that was perhaps my mistake, but I'm referring to a multitude of qualities. Even things like the amount of muscle mass someone has can be attractive or unattractive to various people.

In short:

Nobody is inherently ugly or unworthy because you aren't attracted to them.

Attraction can't be forced and people aren't bad for not being attracted to someone or to certain qualities.

Preferences and needs are inherently harmless. Demeaning people or being cruel to them and using those as an excuse is what causes the harm.

Having preferences and things you are not visually or sexually attracted to is actually normal and perfectly valid.

The entire point of the 'preferences aren't an excuse' campaign is kindness, not forced attraction. That you don't shame other people for not fitting your own preferences or needs.

"I'm sorry, I'm exclusively attracted to vaginas."

vs

"Ew gross, I'd never date you, you've got a penis."

We need to stop demonising people for not finding certain qualities personally arousing or attractive, or having a strict need for a certain type of genital.

If people shouldn't be forced to change themselves to fit someone else's preferences then people's preferences shouldn't be disregarded and forced aside to fit someone else's qualities.

Nor should someone not being attractive to you be a valid reason to shame, demean or be rude/cruel to them.