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The weirdest part is how the Digimon Reference Book info of the Andromon (the species as whole) states "it possesses neither will nor emotion, and it is faithful to its programmed behavior." despite the various individual Andromon that had appeared in various media greatly contradicts it;

V-Pets - They have a happy and angry emoting sprites. I assume the sad sprites reuse the eating sprite, but I'm not so sure cause' I never had a V-Pet unless someone has one and corrects me on that.

Anime - Obviously the Andromon of Adventure is seen emoting, such as getting hurt (Inflicted by Biyomon's Spiral Twister; blink and you'll miss it! Taking a blow against Machinedramon/Mugendramon's Giga Cannon; he falls on the right side of his face and is shown with eyes shut as he's in pain, Surprised(?); When Birdramon when she talks about fighting Machinedramon he looks up in surprise, himself, Tai, and the others are looking at Piedmon while facing right, witnessed the catfight of Angewomon and LadyDevimon, and smiling; Episode 7 of Digimon Adventure 02. The Andromon in Tamers obviously was in fear that his Gatling Attack failed to make a scratch on Orochimon and pained expressions from taking so much damage from said Digimon. Though I'm not sure about how the two Andromon talks in the original Japanese dubs of their respective appearances (and I'm not talking about the robotic filter over their voices!) It's their speech patterns, it's possible it might be different there, so far, I'm only aware of this one from the Andromon of Tamers. Until someone can point out the Adventure Andromon's dialogue in Japanese (anyone please tell me so I can gather more in-depth info!) And the infamous Andromon that was in Digimon X-Evolution movie (that one was a jerk!)

Manga - The Andromon of Digimon Next has to be the very expressive Andromon that has ever been depicted in official media! He even sheds a tear that the Digimon that got hurt by Barbamon's army that he and the Guardromon had to take care of! The Xros Wars manga alongside the Re:Digitize manga doesn't depict any of their Andromon having expressions.

Video Games - Digital Monster Ver. S depicts Andromon's happy sprite that its smiling with its mouth open while it dances. Dialogue wise as far as I can tell from the Andromon of Digimon World, the three Andromon from Digimon Digital Card Battle (they also have expressions going on within their mugshots!), the player(s) own Andromon within the DS World/Story games and Cyber Sleuth/Hacker's Memory. There's an Andromon in Digimon ReArise in a event who regrets his actions on why he didn't ask Agumon help at first to fight against Machinedramon.

The only way to make sense of the DRB's info on Andromon is that every info of Digimon there is written in the perspective of a researcher, you know, cause' it isn't written in an omnipresent perspective, cause' if it was, said "speaker" would've known everything about them. I can think of the researcher(s) saw the first Andromon created and that one was the one that didn't possess any emotions or free will unlike the other Andromon that came after it, like the ones being raised by Tamers themselves.

Though this does make me wonder if this is one of the reasons HiAndromon never got to debut in an anime is that their respective Ultimate (Perfect) form is depicted to be self-aware, but yet said Mega (Ultimate) form's DRB info describes it that it was Andromon that became self-aware within that form...

Are these guys autonomous? Do they have thoughts and feelings? Are they sapient?

Because if so, Gennai hijacking one of them is much funnier and much, much darker.

Colored model sheets of Andromon that was used for Digimon Adventure.

Credits to DigimonFandub from Twitter for sharing the high-quality character model sheets from the Complete Digimon Adventure Japanese Blu-Ray release! We finally got a clearer scan of Andromon's model sheet! Here's the original post that includes Andromon's model sheets, I cropped out the background that surrounded the image.

This reminded me that I had a dark theory if the Spark is the lifeforce of a creature and if it gets badly damaged, they'll start to cease function and die. Thankfully, Planet Feral's core has this said energy that attracts Sparks to the planet can revive and reincarnated them into a new form from using the planet core's energy so they can live a new life.

I didn't know there was canonical explanation if they managed to survive with a cracked Spark.

“valiance of sparks damage and disability”

WAIT is this really something that can happen to us if we go to battle?!

Andromon from Digimon Adventure

OH MY GAWN!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH AHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Someone asked for the full image of my HiAndromon OC, Murphy, so throwing that and a few other concept sketches of him I did back in 2017. He is a hybrid digimon, though doesn't stray too far away from the original HiAndromon design. Who he was named after should be obvious, and before he relocated to the real world he was more a detective than a peacekeeper.

In the real world he found himself doing much the same work once a joint human and digimon gov organization was formed to help with issues that involved digimon in some matter. He does anything from looking into missing person's cases, domestic issues, and tracking criminal movement to the stereotypical: helping old ladies cross the street and locating lost dogs. If he's on the scene, and there are no other pressing matters that needs attending to, he will offer his help, no matter how mundane the task.

Generally, a nice guy who is calm and collected. He's a little blunt, his humor often dry, and is known to give constructive criticism freely. He is also the person you want in the room when shit goes south, because his levelheaded and grounded demeanor helps others stay grounded, too. Has the patience of a saint, but has a habit of standing on one leg in a particular way when its stretched thin. He's quick to pick up on other people's mood, and does try to be motivating and supportive in his own way for those who need it.

He's a workaholic and happy to take on difficult or out of the way jobs that humans might put off due to lack of resources or manpower. On his free time he will go out to rural areas or places of nature to relax, observing birds and other creatures. Somewhat enjoys people watching as long as his surroundings aren't too boisterous, like the park, when he's unable to go out of the city.

Day 49- Andromon!

I’ve always liked Andromon, it’s a really cool idea the way he has all these cybernetic upgrades, but they’ve caused his flesh to atrophy.  Also a good example of a humanoid Digimon with a subtly in-human face. 

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From bringing up a MMO dedicated to raising monsters, it just reminds me how some users within the Animal Jam fandom wants some sort of "V-Pet" mechanic for the avatar animals. I know that game alongside it's 3D counterpart doesn't count as a monster raising/collecting (maybe I should just call it as creature raising/collecting in this case?) If said feature was ever a thing, this would imply that the various animal avatars the player has brought is their group of animals they've befriended and raised.

Classic has a feature which a user can switch animals and have their own levels from leveling up in Adventures. Example: An elephant that's on level 3, but their arctic fox is at level one due to them being newly brought and played once in Adventures.

Though there's no turn-based battles and no stats for each animal the player can train to increase them, but certain clothing items equipped can give out more power to increase inflicted damage only on certain obstacles, they can't be used on Phantoms cause' the developers wants to make sure it isn't too violent for young players but yet throwing Boomseeds (which are like, organic bombs) to defeat them is okay strangely enough.

The only "V-Pet" like mechanic present within the series is only on Animal Jam: Play Wild! where you can take care of your animal's pets through the Pet Station or the PetSitter Pro to nurture a bunch of them. If the pets are fully nurtured and have enough energy, they can be used to sent out into Pet Expeditions to retrieve awards for you. Each pet has their own preferred location they like to visit, but some don't have any known preferred location. These are pretty much it on what you can do with them.

“Palworld is good actually because it gives Pokemon competition” you bitches couldn’t even handle Digimon. Scratch that you bitches couldn’t even handle Moshi Monsters.

If you said you haven't seen much of it at all, let me tell ya, there's an option where you can capture humans in the Pal Spheres and enslave them and there's some people who unironically love that mechanic. Whoever loves said mechanic shows what kind of person they are.

I don't understand what the big scary deal is about Palworld. Given, I don't know much about it, so I may simply not know enough to understand. But some criticisms I've heard simply confuse me.

I have seen people express upset because the pokemon-like critters have guns. But, uhm...

That's nothing new. Digimon did that twenty years ago, and nobody cared. (As a matter of fact, I think there was actually a Digimon that was literally made entirely out of guns.)

People also seem mad that the critters are basically slave labor. Which, hey, yeah, that's pretty dark, but:

1. I thought they were animals? Do we not still have oxen pulling ploughs around irl? But maybe there's an aspect of Palworld I've not seen...if so, let me know.

2. The game everyone compares this game to--Pokemon-- is literally a dogfighting game. You are pitting two animals against each other and making them beat each other up. Is THAT not slavery? Is that not abuse? How can you suspend disbelief for one game and not the other? I don't follow.

I think that people are upset that you can eat the critters in Palworld, too. If so...does no one remember this moment of Pokemon Season One?

Besides, people eat meat. Meat comes from animals. I feel like maybe being reminded that your food once was alive, that sacrifices were made for your upkeep, isn't a bad thing.

I understand criticizing the game for being unoriginal (to put it lightly) is utterly valid, but I can't fathom how it could possibly be the violent, grimdark nightmare people say it is.

That said, I haven't actually experienced the gameplay past about two hours, so perhaps there's some other horrifying aspect of the game that I'm missing. If there is, then I'd like to know. But based on my limited experience with the game, a lot of the responses I see just look like pearl-clutching.

Oh so that explains why the designers made the kobolds of fer.al look more like werewolves than something reptilian looking. Especially the fact some of the developers had inspiration from various Japanese media such as the Shinigami's hint references Ryuk from Death Note.

This is a question that’s been bothering me, and after looking into it I think I get it

So kobolds first appear in Germanic folklore as domestic spirits. Kobolds are also considered mine spirits, causing cave-ins and tapping on things in the dark to scare miners

Think the elves from The Elves and the Shoemaker, but bastards

This association with mines and caves and bastardy gets them into the world of tabletop RPGs when Gary Gygax adds them to his fantasy supplement of Chainmail. Kobolds are later added to Dungeons & Dragons as a subterranean race of monsters

Here’s the important thing: due to a throwaway line in the rulebooks about the kobolds having doglike voices, the first artist to depict a D&D kobold gave it a dog nose

This is the beginning point in the divergent evolution

Kobolds in western TTRPG will notoriously become more and more reptilian with each generation, leaning on the interpretation of “chihuahua dragons,” but it’s at this time, heavily inspired by Dungeons & Dragons, that the video game series Wizardry begins

They brought the dog kobolds with them

Wizardry becomes extremely popular in Japan, inspiring JRPG series like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy as well as manga series like Dungeon Meshi. And while in the west the kobold has become increasingly reptilian with each edition, the Japanese kobold has become increasingly canine

And this is why in the greater fantasy genre, kobolds represent everything from

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Artist: https://twitter.com/mas_square/status/1751558339396542694

i wouldn't say this was my "breaking point" but dang that saddens me a lil when i found someone's post outside of this site wanting to play that game (said post was made two days after it was released) instead of being introduced to digimon cyber sleuth where we got two monster dudes who looks like rc but are obviously different from his design other than being cyborgs in general.

though recommending cyber sleuth as another game to play besides trying out that one isn't a bad idea.

Please note I don't support this game for the slaving mechanic nor do I want to support it. This is about if the game would've actually antagonized and punished the player for going down that path.

Had this game not have a crazed mishmashed of Pokémon designs alongside emphasizing and enabling the player that enslaving Pals and humans makes the game "better", it should've been an evil route. Basically, this evil route is like a "automatic option" to hard mode, making it as a form of punishment for the player for committing such acts.

Taking the evil route, NPCs views on the player have changed into hating them and going against them as they acknowledged the player for enslaving humans and Pals. The two has a higher chance of revolting against the player and refuse to do any work for them. Everyone in the game is out to get you.

But too bad the real game isn't like I what I said. Oh yeah, I don't know if anyone before me mentioned this, but there's no NPCs that commit to enslaving humans and Pals, only the player does it. I've heard there's NPCs designated as villains but I don't think they're slaving humans and Pals.

Edit: Nope! Apparently they're not just giving you the option to mistreat your pals, you get railroaded into it via "pay to win" but now it's "enslave to win" because not enslaving them makes the game a ton slower. The exact same formula that's despised across the board when it's demanding money, but now it's demanding slavery, and that's seriously fucked up.

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Undertale: literally gives you the option to commit genocide.

no one flips their shit and says the game is endorsing genocide. It is constantly celebrated and unavoidable because everyone loves the series so much.

Palworld: gives you the option to mistreat your pals

suddenly everyone is on board with PETA-style claims that this game is endorsing animal abuse. As though all of the same criticisms haven't been lobbed at Pokemon since day 1...Pokemon, where you're literally beating and catching animals to fight them.

I think people should just admit they're mad about having proof that modern Pokemon games are shitty glitched messes that they shouldn't be wasting their money on because the company is lazy and greedy and can't make a playable game even with millions of times the budget and manpower of some random indie game that's parodying them.

Thinking about palworld & like how unashamedly it portrays slavery.

Like for sure, depictions of heinous things in fiction aren't necessarily an endorsement & don't necessarily mean ppl will go on to commit those atrocities.

However, I find it deeply concerning what this depiction of slavery means in a social context. The way it joyfully tacked this on as a game mechanic & made it very explicit about how this isn't just hard labour, it is slavery & how it extremely intentionally uses terms like 'plantation' rather than crop or farm.

I was watching ppl play this game just bc I wanted to actually see what it was all about & if it was as bad as I thought. It's worse than I thought & my worries about it were confirmed by just how quickly the shock of how this game portrays slavery wore off on the player & how quickly they began to joke about it.

I really sincerely think ppl need to let go of the pokemon shit for a second & think about the social consequences of how this game portrays slavery.

I think we fucking owe it to Black people & other people who have ancestors who were enslaved to talk about how serious this is.

I don't give a fucking rats ass about pokemon or plagiarizing trillion dollar corporations, who fucking cares?

I'm much more concerned about the impact this game could have on real living people with the way it carelessly jokes about this & how this changes people's perceptions of slavery.

Changing the attitude people have towards slavery is the first step towards people thinking that it's okay to enslave people, I think we really ought to be talking about that.

As I've mentioned from my previous reblogged post, this game attracts racist trash for said mechanic and I hate it that people glance over it.

No, actually if yer out here defending Palworld in any regard you need to be mentioning the fucking human npc slavery mechanic.

People who only like the game for that one specific mechanic (the player can do it to humans too within said game) are an obvious, glaring, red flag to me and it says a lot about them when their true colors show up as they shamelessly defend the game from other people criticizing the game's flaws and go as far to sling out offensive slurs to them who voice out on it from what I've seen within the replies of Twitter posts related to said game.

Man... I'ma just be real with y'all. I don't give a shit about Palworld. It's all Ive funken heard about the past week or so and I just... I just don't care! On one side of the Halo 1 ass team death match y'all are in the trenches of you have the overly zealous Pokemon fans who will needle the game to death over the slightest shortcomings and similarities. Buddy, pal, friend... GameFreak will be fine. They're gunna be ok ...

But equally bad are the ones who will take any criticism of their new personality defining game as an attack on the sanctity of their marriage or something. I'm sorry guys, the game looks painfully boring, if it didn't look like pokemon with guns you wouldn't be playing it.

But this isn't why I'm tired... If that was all I had to say about this issue I wouldn't have made a post about it on what is supposed to be a tokusatsu blog... Shit this is supposed to be a toku blog... What episode of Kingohger are we on?... We're in the 40s!?...... Man I let that one get away from me... okay!!! Not the point, not the point, we'll deal with that later. The point is! We already HAD Pokemon with guns and murder and even more obvious furry bait.

WHERE WERE YALL WHEN MY MAIN MAN AGUMON WAS FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE HUH?

Look at em...

Y'all wanted a more mature Pokemon? Man we've had that since the 90s! We already have Palworld at home! We are not stopping and spending more money on edgy monsters when you barely play with the ones I got you last week! You want guns? You want your cute scrunkle squinkle toodle pops to have guns?

Do Gargomon and his funny little pants mean nothing to you?! Fucken ... This one is just a gun!

Gundramon is just 30 guns in a trench coat...

Death?... Ya want death and mature themes? Some real stakes and some real consequences for our sins and transgressions? Ya want to Nuzlocke and pop your way though a story where Fido can die if you forget to give him his ear medication?

Eat my ENTIRE ass.

Slavery? You want... Wait y'all want actually want that?... Like the whole putting y'all's dog on the assembly line to build Mitsubishi Outlanders thing has been in a LOT of the back and forth... I'm not sure what y'all are talking about.... Yeah...

Anyway yeah Digimon... Digital monsters. Digimon are the champions here. Play Palworld if you want, I haven't seen anything that indicates it's actually funding anything uncouth... And hate pal world if you want! I always advocate for more hate in the world. Hating things is fun!... Just... I don't care. I just don't care about monsuno for men. Bakugan for big boys. Telefang for taxpayers... Uh... Monster rancher for retirees....

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...are we really in the 40s with Kingohger?...

The only monster Pal I care about

Those guys don't wanna try cause' they're allergic to said series just cause' you can't enslave them with humans too, my gawn it really does show those type of fans are unaccepting jerks judging by how they love that mechanic within that game.

I don't get the people touting palworld as a clever deconstruction like no it just sucks. If you want a monster franchise that's sort of fucked up and yucky and weird and has guns and wants to talk about how war is hell. AND is actually fucking good and has a heart instead of just being like "lol look at how SHOCKING and CRAZY we're being". Digimon is right there.

Me- me when- *disgruntled sigh* me when wiki-

AGREED

love it that he's expressive here

I remember talking to a friend of mine that Greely's notes back in Classic, specially his notes placed in the Chamber of Knowledge, Coral Canyons, and the Temple of the Ancients notes have interesting lore implications.

I'll start off with the Chamber of Knowledge note:

This implies that Play Wild takes place in a alternative continuity/universe of the original Animal Jam going by the "different worlds" implication. As if they're intertwined with each other due to similar events involving Lightside and Darkside as the Phantoms are using Darkside energy to rearrange things.

Second comes the Coral Canyons note:

This too implies the alternative timeline/universe connection, especially that it seems like there's no new Adventures in Classic, the Phantoms are still going about destruction within the Play Wild continuity.

The third and last note; The Temple of the Ancients note that talks about Juno's spirit being no longer having presence in the statue:

When Play Wild's October 2023 sneak peak came out, I speculated that the Lightside Arctic Wolf and Darkside Arctic Wolf were going to be unique NPCs represented Juno's spirit being split into halves when their spirit somehow moved into the Play Wild universe.

The Lightside spirit would've shown up if anyone joined the Lightside and had a calm-manner dialogue while the Darkside spirit would've showed up if anyone joined the Darkside and had a brash-like dialogue I've imagined what the two would be.

In my opinion when they finally showed up in-game, I was disappointed that they were just Arctic Wolves that players can purchase with real money and not unique NPCs that participated in the event.

Now onward to Greely's disappearance before the PW Greely's resign, these two Jamaa Journals from Classic by Peck and Sir Gilbert when the Lightside vs. Darkside was still going on within Play Wild:

The two Alphas mention that they wonder where did Greely went? Does this imply that the Greely from the original Animal Jam (Classic)'s universe somehow "leapt through worlds" and end up taking in the place of Play Wild's Greely during the whole Lightside vs. Darkside event? It's like Greely wanted to know what was going on with Classic's Jamaa Township getting rearranged by the Lines of Power manipulated by the Phantoms so he had to investigate somewhere but failed as the Lightside won and went into hiding wherever he is now...

Though it may not be the Greely of Classic that end up in Play Wild, as his statue and armor set is still seen in Classic Alpha Headquarters. Liza's comment in Classic's Jamaa Journal in Classic's November update; besides her and the rest of the Alphas concerned for Greely's absence, she wonders if the Phantoms are threatening "somewhere beyond their world":

In Play Wild's November update, a Jamaa Journal from Peck says she felt a "mysterious presence" working alongside them when everyone was connected to the Lightside:

Would this mean Juno's spirit was there during the whole time during the Lightside vs. Darkside event? I feel like they would get revived from the magical energies from the Lightside, like how the dinosaurs and their homeplace Mesoterra was revived through those Alpha Fossils.

This is all that I wanted to say.

im still so baffled greely just resigned. You can just do that???? correct me if im wrong but werent the alphas chosen by zios and mira??? greely just about to disregard the will of actual gods???? Okay :) Yay :)

I can understand your pain that this Digimon doesn't get that much fan art...

It hurts when you're a fan of a Digimon who has never debut in a anime or a manga for that matter.

Ayo @abridgilliance pls don't block me for interacting w/ you it would be real cool to have the full art of this guy Aldamon too but I'm not going back

BORN FROM GRIEF

NIGHT OF THE PHANTOMS ART CONTEST ENTRY || @counterfeitphantoms @bootleggreely

omg hiiii finally got my entry for the art contest completed! I've always known phantoms to be born from Mira's tears so finding out that they changed the origin (several times it seems?!??) was a shock 2 me, and i will NAWT let that origin be forgotten it goes so hard........... but anyways heres my GIRL!!! & her daughter with every disease the Phantom Queen!