Because I Can Already Hear Them Whining About It: The Problem Wasn't That Chat Noir Didn't Listen To

Because I can already hear them whining about it: the problem wasn't that Chat Noir didn't listen to Rena Rouge, the problem was that he wasn't told the plan.

That's why he listened to Marinette. Not because he likes her or something but because she informed him of what Rena Rouge was planning.

Yes yes yes but like before when I had only watched S1, since we the audience know what LB doesn't see and Adrien isn't the type to be a playboy and a flirt and that he admires Ladybug I always kind of figured he loved her but like yeah I wasn't in the fandom when S2 came around but Glaciator sure was a trip, especially for Marinette, like you talked about.

BRUH I CANT BELIEVE I FORGOT TO POST THIS AAAAH for context i drew these right after optigami came out

recently i've been thinking a lot about the kind of character chat noir presents himself as throughout the show,, been thinking a lot about it now in season 4 (in respect to the role, or should I say, lack of a role, he has in all of season 4 so far)

i rewatched some season one episodes and i was honestly taken aback by how many puns and snarky lines he says in a matter of minutes, and by how blatantly cockey he comes across as fhfjfjgjgg *in evillistrator he says 6 puns in like less than a minute and it gives me psychic damage*

then i was thinking about how much the way we view him,,, the audience as well as ladybug,, changes after his confession and the reality of his genuine love for ladybug (revealed in the origins episodes and glaciator)

i find it absolutely bonkers how much the fanon changed after season 2 was released, as well as watching the origins episodes cause like *BRO IS ACTUALLY GENUINELY IN FUCKING LOVE WITH HER, HES NOT A PLAYER DJFNGNFN*

and then lastly, thinking about him in season 4 (even though we have yet to see him obviously express it) and how abandoned or useless he might feel,, since he hasn't really been blatantly necessary to defeat the akumas and amoks (EVEN THOUGH HE HAS BEEN NECESSARY IN THESE EPISODES ITS JUST NOT OBVIOUS TO THE AUDIENCE AND, BY EXTENSION, HIM)

also i couldn't decide which expression to give chat in this last image so when i asked the syrva discord they suggested i do both. so i made an animation. hdhfhfjjfjffjfjg

Really, I took it as Gabriel actually caring about Adrien and saving a family picture he made when he was young in his safe.

Hey hey hey hey

Remember that time Gabriel broke baby Adrien's drawing of his family in the Collector back in Season 2?

It looks like the miraculous ladybugs never fixed that back then and that Adrien's family really is broken and unfixable 🙂🙂🙂

The entire premise of miraculous ladybug centers on this idea of an eventual identity reveal. That's the core of the entire galaxy-brained concept. And the writers decided to maximize that by giving us what-if scenarios. So instead of building up to the one and only reveal, we get to see, in canon, multiple scenarios for how it could go. We've had the amnesia plot. We've seen Adrien find out first and we've seen Marinette find out first. I bet you anything next up is a simultaneous reveal and I don't even care if it sticks or not because writing all these different reveals into the plot is such a genius idea. We get to see every option, not just "the" option. I get that it's frustrating to have progress erased but you will never hear me complaining about getting "what if" episodes. How lucky are we that we get them at all?

Ephemeral be like

I’ve already covered this topic in my post about Emily hiding her true self, but imma say it again!

No, I don’t think that Adrien is a sentimonster.

And here’s why in a few points

•First if all, Adrien has his own mind and his own personality. Sentimonsters don’t.

•Adrien does not ALWAYS obey his father. Hell get out as Cat Noir and break the rules to have more freedom. Sentimonsters HAVE to obey, they work like that. They don’t have a mind of their own.

•Gabriel or Nathalie would have noticed it. Just like Nathalie felt the presence of Feast in the same episode.

•IF Adrien was a sentimonster, he would be dormant without a older, just like Feast. Now, Emily might be his holder, but since she died, he wouldn’t be able to have a mind of his own since she doesn’t control him anymore.

•About the ring. Adrien probably saw Gabriel play with his ring, and it reminded him of his lost mother. That’s why he let himself get akumatized, in the hope that he could see his mother again.

More proofs coming later.