Lady Nagant: Tells Deku That The Comission Had Her As A Assasin For People Who Did Not Yet Commit Any

Lady Nagant: tells Deku that the Comission had her as a assasin for people who did not yet commit any crimes. Lady Nagant: tells Deku the Comission sent her to kill pro heroes who abused their power. Lady Nagant: tells Deku the chairman of the Comission tried to kill her for wanting to retire. Deku: You killed the chairman? That’s not what I was told. Like that’s the part you’re focusing on right now? Really? 

Was my first reaction, but: This is really interesting, because it does sound to a degree that Deku did not truely listen until what she said went against something he was explictly told. So anything before was her story, but that chairman’s death was either public knowledge or Deku knew from Hawks and it went directly against something Deku was told.

So Deku had aquired the knowledge of the chairman’s death by something other than Lady Nagant while she was working as a pro hero. (Which means they most likely had her declared dead or something, instead of admitting that a pro hero went rouge, which obviously they would not do, but it’s nice to get confirmation that the comission has been sweeping issues under the rug for very long.)

And he asks Lady Nagant about it, to get more information.

That means Deku is actually questioning the world he lives in and I am here for that. This is the progression I have been waiting for.

Also this chapter is pretty amazing in general.

Spinner time travel quirk headcanons

For @whoatimetravel-main  whose answer to this post from @oldphone-whodis  my tumblr forgot to tell me and I saw by sheer luck.

 So thing is I have like a lot of different headcanons for different time travel versions, but all have in common that Spinner is not letting it happen again the same way, especially the death of Twice and Magne (even though they weren’t close).

And Spinner still wants to destroy hero society and be with his friends and wants them to succeed. Especially Tomura. And of course he does not want AFO to take over Tomura.

 Version 1: only Spinner gets time travel powers and it’s pretty much the original post base (some variations would be a little earlier, so Spinner can stop some other stuff from happening, but all versions where the League consists of already wanted criminals start this way.

Basically: Spinner can go two different ways, either he tells them, hopes they buy into it by using knowledge he should not have or he does not tell them and instead just tries to play it saver by reducing the damage the league gets, aka Twice and Magne alive, Compress keeps his arm etc.

While I do find the he tells them and convinces them interesting and a lot of fun it does lead to major changes in the story if the League can just ask Spinner: how did this go, he tells them, they do it differently and hope for the best.

But Spinner is the kind of guy who probably played enough games where one decision can change the entire outcome of the game, so he’d know that this could lead to way worse consequences.

So I think he’d play it safe and go with sticking to what he knows and only making sure his friends survive.

Especially because Tomura pre AFO imprisonment would still be under AFOs influence and saying something against AFO could lead to Spinner’s death, so while I think Twice and Toga would be on board right away with time travel person, Giran, Compress and Dabi could be persuaded through logic arguments, Tomura is the biggest issue to convince here, so Spinner would probably go and play it safe.

Even though I’d love the comedy of Spinner trying to get everyone to believe him. And I can see Spinner telling Dabi, Compress even Giran the truth, he’d probably be safe for them to keep the secret, the chances of Twice or Toga finding out and being distrustful (more so Toga, than Twice, I think he’d understand why such curtail information wouldn’t be given to him) are too high. And of course Dabi is a bit of a wild card in regards to his own goals.

So Spinner plays it safe: he doesn’t tell anyone and just tries to change things a little bit. The Forrest Training Camp and the Hideout ark stay the same (I know OP likes Mustard, and it’s really screwed up that this middle schooler villain just vanishes, but I just have to little knowledge about him to include him and I’d say unless that changes (bnha stand chapter 314) neither does Spinner, so he probably would let the 3 M get arrested.

And he’d definitely let AFO get imprisoned, so that Tomura is finally free of him.

He goes with them to the Overhaul meeting and stops Magne (and therefore Compress) to attack Overhaul, saving them. But he was still an ass, so the Overhaul ark remains relatively the same.  

So the next ark with big problems for the League would be the Meta Liberation Army which is where I am a bit torn like Spinner probably would be. Should Giran and Tomura get to keep their fingers? Issue being: if this goes down differently the outcome could be catastrophic for everyone. Tomura needs to win against Re-Destro (and unlock his childhood trauma) and so do Twice and Toga need their power up. So I’d guess that Spinner would let it slide because getting involved could mean a way worse outcome than 7 lost fingers.

Which leads to the currently biggest problem Spinner will have to face: the fight against the pro heroes and Twice death and maybe getting Tomura to not get surgery so that AFO can’t take over.

I’d say this would be a huge moment of Spinner going: this is the point where he’ll have to overdo everything because the outcome is too bad. Current standpoint: Toga missing, Compress arrested and in bad health, Maschia arrested, Twice dead, Tomura’s body got taken over by AFO, their forces lost.

So this would for me be the point where he decides to change everything he can to not let that happen, because saving that point seems useless for this outcome.

My personal favorite would be to get Twice to clone EVERYONE form the PLF and have them at the hideout but actually relocate everyone elsewhere so that the heroes are busy fighting the clones (we saw what the Re-Destro clone alone did). He would hate to find a way to hide this information from Twice as long as possible, until the last moment Hawks is around, then be fast of cloning everyone.

I’d say Spinner made himself a questlog for this, a to-do-list if you will, so in order to finish this mission he has to do the following:

Gets Hawks not to find out about the clones until it’s too late. Get the League into safety. Make sure Twice is as far away as possible from Hawks. Kill Best Jeanist probably, I mean he is just lying around in a bag in the corner right now. Get Tomura to not get into that tank. But have AFO believe that he does? Last thing would definitely be the hardest part but also might be the moment where he tells Tomura that time travel was involved, because by now they are actually friends and Tomura was out of AFO grasp for a while.

And of course to still stick close to the raid and the heroes getting Ujiko to knock him out and keep the heroes busy while the League gets out of there he’d need something to put into that tank. Twice clones would not be able to hold it up obviously, maybe Sceptic’s can?

Or Spinner forgoes the whole thing and just tells Tomura and the League just blows the hospital up themselves before getting to Tartarus to kill AFO before anything worse happens.

This is the moment for me where I go in like 50 different directions of what could happen.

Spinner could tell everyone about the future he stopped. Spinner could have everyone be complelty elsewhere and them just watching the heroes loose their shit because everyone is a clone.

The PLF having survived could go full on war against the heroes, which would probably not end well either.

Spinner might tell Dabi that he knows who he is and wants to help take down Endevour and they could make it bigger than what actually happened. I am sure Compress would help putting up a show and Toga and Tomura would be on board of: shitty father deserves to go down.

There are so many possibilities for this.

Other than that and other Version of Time Travel would be either completely different times, picturing baby Spinner trying to get to baby Tomura before he kills his family or stopping Dabi from burning himself, teenager Spinner straight up getting the gang together early, kidnapping Toga before she snaps and showing up at the bar with Kurogiri letting them stay (Oboro liked strays too), maybe it’s a groundhog day situation of the day of the raid and he has to figure out how to save Twice from Hawks and Tomura from AFO.

And then there are the versions of Time Travel where it’s not only Spinner but other people get it too.

Like every one of the League getting time traveled and now there have some meeting before everything goes down just sitting there like: now what? And Toga not stopping to hug Twice. Maybe ever person I currently see joining as a major player in the finale battle against AFO getting time traveled and they have to figure out how to not let that happen, with Shoto going all out trying to find his brother and talk to him, Uraraka reaching out to Toga and Deku knowing he has to save Tomura but not knowing how to in this timeline.

My personal favorite: Spinner and Bakugo being the only people who time travel and they have to work together to stop this whole mess and the whole thing just being an entire comedy because they keep in check with each other, planning out who does what like: If you take down Overhaul, we’ll take down the Doctor and his Nomus – We’ll have to wait until Daku wins this fight and unlocks this power otherwise it won’t work, -I forgot Toga can’t use quirks yet. Like the worst version of a buddy comedy you can think of.

I definitly have different opinions on Hawks, but it’s mostly what his next moves are really going to determ what way he will go down for me, so I’ll wait for my final predection with him.

I am buying the part that Endevour wants to redeem himself but for the wrong reasons and with the wrong means and he still hasn’t taken credit for the pain he caused considering his on going blame-shifting during the flash-backs.

But to let go as you phrased it from especially Shoto, the dreamchild just the one he wanted to make would be definitly the biggest part of removing himself from his family.

It’s not that hard to remove yourself from people you already mostly removed yourself from, even Dabi to an extend but Shoto was the one he wanted for his goals and kept inserting himself in Shoto’s live even if Shoto didn’t want that, so letting go of his version of a family with Shoto is defintly the biggest step for Endevour.

And with Dabi it’s less a removal from his live and more a finally seeing him and importantly admitting without blame-shifting what he did (and then removing him from his live).

I mean I would love to see a point where Endevour admits to Dabi that it is only his fault and nothing else to give Toya the attention from his father he carved after being neglected but that would be a really long way to go for him. And I’d like to see Dabi’s reaction to something like this, if Endevour can still get away without legal consequences it would still not be enough for him, but to actually finally admit his fault would probably do Dabi some good.

As I said I personally prefer a alive and lives with consequences take because while they are harder to do, they also usually are more based in reality adn the moment where you can make a real change from the messy real world and make a statement.

And for Endevour to atone in a way that actually helps his family he’s one of the few people where I can see a prison sentece being a solution because in actual Japan child abuse is up to ten years. And if you do that to 4 children and your wife it’s probably not going to get less. And if any members of the Todoroki family would want contact with him they could go to him on their own accords but never his.

So while I don’t think it’s necessairly ending this way, I’love to see Endevour admitting his faults complelty to the public and getting a legal sentece for it with no he’s a pro hero so he gets a free pass (that they still might offer, systems take a while to completly change) and remove himself from their lives in way he can’t break.

Anybody who has acess to raw scans and knowledge about Japanese to be of any help, because the translations of bnha 311 are saying very different things:

This is the first translation, where I want to point out the line about never stopping to smile and something missing in his soul are directed at AFO.

And Endevour clearly asks a question, which in japanese is indicated through a parcel, so if something is a question it should be obvious to see.

But then the other translation sais that the one with extra hatred is Shigaraki , same with the person that doesn’t stop laughing/smiling.

Which would make perfect sense to talk about Tomura because he is always smiling/ laughing, which can’t be said for AFO, the guy barely shows what is left of his face and none of them have any knowledge about AFO always laughing/smiling.

It would on the other hand make sense for AFO to have no hatred, but rather emptiness inside of him, but then the translation to laughing seems off. Wouldn’t it be rather something along the lines of laughing on the inside, thinking he is going to win no matter what (I lack the english word for what I mean right now.).

And Endevour isn’t asking a question here too, he is making a statement.

I can get behind differences like laughing/smiling or missing his soul/lack of heart, but there is a huge difference who they are talking about and Endevours statement/question about the person’s sould/heart.

This is really, really  good on a psychological take.

It is extremly common for abuse victims to:

1. still love their abusers, especially if they are blood related. Because of social expectencies children are often told to love their parents no matter what and they pick up on that, so even abused children often have love for their parents, that in no way deserve it. Besides the biological basis that babies need other humans or they die, and then bond to these humans. And little moments that give them hope that their parents love them back, tends to solitify that. And those little moments together with the abusive upbringing also leads to the believe that the abuse is justified (of course it’s not) and sometimes that can lead to overlap with the way they view other abuse victims. So Enji abusing Toya through training, still gave Toya feelings of love, because he interpreted that as love from his father, and wanted more of that training and repectively more love from him.

Wheras Fuyumi and Natuso don’t seem to realize they were abused as well, because they were mostly “just neglected”, unlike their brothers. Shoto only speaks about what Enji did to Rei, not himself either.

Dabi is the only sibling who outright told their father that he is to blame for the abuse their family suffered, no one else.

Big difference between Hakws and Best Jeanist, who are looking elsewhere for the culprit. And Enji trying to shift the blame onto his own abuse victims.

Keigo on the other probably interepreted the Endevour doll as a sign of love from his mother, leading to his idelazation for Endevour, without ever knowing him.

2. go back to similar abusers. You brain has a tendecy to go back to what it knows, even if that is a bad thing and that is extremly hard to overcome. And children who were abused have a high tendecy to not realize that they were abused (Fuymi, Natuso, Shoto are all examples of that) until they are adults, somtimes even way later in live. Mind you Keigo is only 23 and he has been in an unhealthy enviroment since he was born, he just swapped his parents for the hero commission.

Wich Endevour it is of course different. Because Hawks new Endevour the pro hero, but not Enji the father. So his idolization came as a child, meaning Hawks saw Endevour as you said: as am idol father figure, a hero come to rescue, but not the real person behind that idol.

And now that he hears about the real Enji two things happen: first of all, the human brain does not like contridicting information and Enji being a horrible abusive parent for over 20 years is extremly against the picture Hawks has of him. And second: this is as you said something Hawks probably wanted from his father: a change, to become a good parent and have the happy family he wanted.So he jumps to devend Enji as a person. Even though as a parent both Enji and Hawk’s father were horrible and neither of their sons was at fault for this.

I'm going to say a thing that can be seemed... a bit (read: very) controversial by some people. But. Do you think... that maybe. Just perhaps. Keigo, somewhere deep inside, hoped that his own abusive father will 'change'? (I mean, he clearly has some weird views concerning his parents, just remember how he apologised to his mother, even though she absolutely did NOT deserve any apologies) But, well, he didn't. And later he was caught by Endeavor, whom Keigo began to look up to and eventually came to see him as a father figure of sorts. But... now that he knows that Endeavor was also an abusive father himself, but who has 'changed', do you think that maybe that's why Hawks now supports him even more and refuses to critique him? Because now he's literally a dream-version of his own father? Or am I reaching too much into it? upd.: This also might be the reason he doubts Dabi's words so hard and can't see that 'the reason for Dabi's hatred' is standing right next to him. I feel like Hawks believes to some extent that it was his own fault his parents abused him (he's wrong, of course) and he was just a bad son, so admitting that Dabi's creation was entirely Endeavor's fault would mean for Hawks to accept that no, his parents didn't abused and neglected him because he did something wrong and deserved it, they abused and neglected him just because they were pieces of shit and he shouldn't be excusing them.

It’s really sad to see how Tomura starts to feel itchy right before AFO tries to take control over him, when he hasn’t been scratching himself since AFO’s arrest.

Leaned a slightly different version of 54321:

5 things you can see, 5 things you can hear, 5 things you can feel

Then you 4 things you can see, hear, feel

Going all the way down 3-2-1 until you only say/ think of 1 thing you can see, 1 thing you can hear and 1 thing you can feel.

You can use doubles, you can make noise, you can say everything out loud or just think it and if you can not see anything imagine the things around you and you can touch yourself or put gentle pressure on your body to feel a new feeling.

Anti anxiety.