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Established But Not Quite Couples
Established But Not Quite Couples
And what I mean by that is that, yeah, we know a couple is together. We just don't know how, exactly, they're together. They could be dating or they could just be fuck friends. If nothing is outright said or confirmed directly, either in the show or even by the mouth of anyone in charge of it, then I'm not running on my assumptions. So far, there's only one couple I really know who applies so here it goes.
Mayberry and Martha -
This couple is living together but that doesn't automatically mean a relationship. Like I said, they could just be fuck friends. Not to mention, more importantly (at least to me to bring up)...
These two women being together doesn't make any fucking sense to me. Mayberry caught her husband cheating on her with Martha and went on a literal murderous rampage. Martha not only got almost killed by her but had to deal with assassins that Mayberry hired because she hated that much that Martha died.
Even if Martha doesn't know about the hired hit part, there's still the 'I-almost-got-killed-by-you' part. Why the fuck would anyone want to be intimately involved with someone who tried murdering them? Typically, you gotta be outright forced to be with someone who does that shit. And while Mayberry may have gotten revenge on who she wanted dead, I doubt that means she completely got over it and would be - likely should be - incensed if she ever came across Martha again.
Seriously, of all the female same sex couples for the show to put out, why did have to be the two women who, by all logical means, shouldn't even want to be in the same fucking room together, let alone be fuck friends?
Then there's not getting into Martha's family, which is its own can of worms. Sure, maybe the family managed to escape before the cops came since Moxxie did tell them that he would call them. Or maybe Ralph and the kids landed in a different spot from Martha when falling down in Hell and couldn't find her, especially Hell should be a huge, overpopulated place. All in all, it's one of the most improbable things ever that the family would personally want their beloved wife and mom to be with someone who tried killing her
Martha cheating on her husband, that's something people bring up sometimes. Except I don't think that was ever a problem because she and her family are cannibals. Wouldn't be surprised if Ralph not only allows his wife to seduce men to lure into their home to trap and eat later but also that Ralph does the same thing for women (and of course gay men for Ralph if the man swings both ways, like how Martha likely seduces the gay women). As for the kids, they're likely told by their parents that Martha just takes men to their home and get all close to those men because it's all part of the trap
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New Thoughts on Blitzo
Warning, people who love Stolas should stay away. And okay, so I've been through tumblr, I heard about the new episodes, and I even saw the trailer for the rest of season 2. I gotta say, I have a new perspective on Blitzo. At the very least, I'm feeling sorry for him
Not that the situation with Stolas was never anything to brush off. To be exact, from the very beginning, I was more infuriated at Blitzo's behavior. The shit he did to Moxxie and to an extent Millie, the shit he did to Verosika, to Fizzarolli, to Barbie. Really, to me, the crap that Blitzo did was far more noticeable to be than the crap Stolas was doing. Like a favorite child and an unfavorite to an abusive parent. Yeah, you'd think it's super obvious who has it good just by looking at it, but you end up missing how the favorite child suffers, too, from their position. In this case, I paid more attention to the the unfavorite child's acting out that I didn't notice how problematic the favorite really was.
Hearing what I heard, though... and seeing the trailer. Well, Blitzo's situation with Stolas has gotten worse and worse over time. Now it's reached a point where not only can I not look at it and think nothing of it anymore, but I actually feel bad for Blitzo. Really, being guilt tripped and attacked over and over to get with the one who made you feel like it really is just about sex, someone who would get mad at you for not loving them like they wanted when you fail their test... that's something I wouldn't want to wish on my worst enemy. No matter how much I hate Blitzo, I wouldn't wish this on him.
Even without that, there's so much ACTUAL shit that Blitzo has done that warrants the relentless attack that the trailer showed snippets of. Stalking, harassment, video taping and watching people have sex without even their knowledge, let alone their consent, breaking and entering, maxing out credit cards and leaving debt for others to take care of, leaving someone to highly likely die regardless of the reasons for doing so, tracking someone down for a week straight regardless of whether or not they want to see you and make THEM the bitch for the voluntary week-long search, and constant insulting and belittling and sheer disrespect in general... yet the thing that Blitzo is gonna ever be held accountable for is not being in love with Stolas. What the fuck? It's like the show's writers are saying that not being in love with someone is the only real crime down there in Hell
And yeah, for the two paragraphs above, I said 'test'. Because ultimately, at seeing that sneak peek of that 'duet', that's what it feels like Stolas's end. That he just wants to see that he doesn't really need the grimoire to have Blitzo. What's more, Stolas clearly has his expectations. He says things like 'can' and 'could' when dreaming about that little fairytale ending with Blitzo that he wants but from the way he carries himself, it's like he's taking it for granted that he will get that fairytale ending. I guess his test will just be something like a formality instead of a test, now that I think about it
I legitimately will never understand people who sees this show as a masterpiece that's perfection representation and all that jazz. If they can enjoy it, fine, but when I hear praise like that, it feels like to me like you're drinking water and you claim it's actually liquidized macaroni and cheese. With no flavor packets with a mac-and-cheese flavor at all
Expectations Going Forward
As much as I put this title, this post isn't anything much. Really, it's just a bunch of things I wanna say about Helluva Boss and, to a lesser extent, Hazbin Hotel. Still stray away from this post if you don't want shit talked about these shows
First up, I used to get pissed over characters and writing decisions in Helluva Boss. That's how I was able to make a list of posts about how stupid the characters are which led me to believe that the show is just an universe where everyone's a dumbass in some shape or form. Then I dulled down in my anger when making a realization: it feels like Helluva Boss is just an edgy soap opera.
I mean, I don't watch soap operas so the most info I got is when it's being parodied on shows I do watch or when I hear about real soap operas in passing. If I got it right, soap operas have mainly three things: clearly defined heroes and villains, lots of relationship drama, and big emotional moments
Like sure, the heroes might be as despicable as the villains or maybe more so but the show makes it obvious who you're supposed to root for no matter what the heroes do. Then there's the big emotional moments thanks to either the heroes and villains that the soap operas clearly define or relationship drama. The relationship drama doesn't really need to have chemistry in soap operas just as long as it's a spectacle to watch. And the first two things create the big emotional moments to give us relief after a whole episode of it pounding in either how much of an evil bad guy that they were when oppressing the heroes or how two people are tragically kept from being a couple (or best friends again in the case of Blitz and Fizz) because of a misunderstanding or lack of communication or whatever other cliche tropes that soap operas like to use. It might even matter how much anything was built up or how well it was built up, either, just as well as it was to a certain extent before giving the big reliving emotional payoff
Really, from the sounds and looks of it, Helluva Boss checks all the major boxes of a soap opera. It's just more edgy because it has a shit ton of swearing and sex instead of a shit ton of Spanish. Sure, there's people who say that this show is some big masterpiece and they can go ahead and think that. I just can't think of this show as anything more than, as stated before, an edgy soap opera. It has gotten easier for me to see the show once I settled into that opinion
And honestly, I'm fully, completely expecting Hazbin Hotel to be that, too. Just a show full of spectacle, clearly defined heroes and villains, and big emotional moments. In another words, another edgy soap opera. I think it'll even have some relationship drama in the form of Angel Dust and Husk and that'll probably not have any actual chemistry, just as long as it looks sweet. Pretty much like Stolas and Blitz, although that one also has 'tragic' along with 'sweet'
Lucifer (TV show) vs Hazbin Hotel
So I found out what Lucifer's take on Hell. I mean the TV show, not the character himself. Yeah, I never went out of my way to watch the show. That was more something my mom watched but I never actively paid attention to it. I only found out Lucifer's take on Hell when I was going through youtube and I gotta say. I don't like it.
According to the show Lucifer, people damn themselves down to Hell thanks to the guilt they feel from all the things they do. While I'm sure most people feel guilt, very clearly not everyone does. The sociopaths who rape, murder, cannibalize, and other atrocities, those people will never damn themselves down to Hell because they'll never think they deserve to be down there. So I don't like the idea of people like those instantly going up to heaven when it's like that. And there's the fact that feeling guilt can be an indicator of someone being a good person, in some cases like, say, a person killing in self-defense, yet they'll damn themselves to Hell. So that's another thing I don't like
In contrast, no one in Hazbin Hotel apparently knows how someone gets to Heaven. At most, they just know when someone gets there. Kind of strange to me that no one has ever bothered trying to figure out a pattern but staying on track here... at least it isn't guilt that determines who goes where. People called it a cop out, that no one knows the requirements, but I'm not up for that whole thing about guilt being that determining factor
I'm sure I'm not the only one of my opinion but I'm kind of curious. Which one would you consider worse? Guilt being the determining factor for who goes to Heaven or Hell or some system that doesn't run on guilt but is still unknown to everyone? In any case, wanted to get I'm guessing a nitpick off my chest
Establishing Couples of Hazbin
What I mean by the title is that I'll be talking about couples that were couples from the start but were built up to be during the show. Now I put Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss together when talking about how the 'healthy' couples were still problematic as all fuck; honestly, it's like the healthy couples were just called healthy because the people involved are actually happy to be next to each other most of the time. I guess that's healthier in comparison to the messy couples
Anyways, the only built-up couples in Hazbin I can think of are two while Stolas and Blitzo is the only couple really being built up in Helluva. And Stolitz is practically the whole show of Helluva Boss by now so they need their own post.
And the thing is, whether it's stable or messy, all the couples in the hellaverse suck. They suck on some level, in some shape or form. Just, again, the healthy couples are probably just better in comparison to other relationships because the people involved are actually typically happy to be together.
(Also bringing up episode 4 at a couple points and I don't mean any disrespect if I don't have the same opinions as some. Just my own perspective and nothing more)
Cherri Bomb and Sir Pentious -
This is pretty short given how there's very little development to their relationship to the point (Seriously, TVtropes says that if one doesn't watch the pilot, it can feel that way, but no. I watched the damn pilot before the show and it still felt like it was out of nowhere). Anyways, there's a serious lack of concern about consent from both sides. Pentious might be the lesser of two evils at best, since he went ahead and stole a kiss from Cherri.
Of course, since I said that Pentious is the lesser of two evils, then Cherri is so much fucking worse. Particularly when she just let people drag an unwilling Pentious into a sex room to have sex. Granted, absolutely everyone didn't give a fuck that Pentious was being forced into sex but in this relationship, why the fuck would I want him to be with a woman who didn't a bat her eye at what was happening at the damn club? In fact, why would I want Pentious to be with a woman who only ever had any visible interest in him when Angel mentioned the 'two dicks' thing? Cherri could have gone to literally any snake demon in Hell if that's what she's going to care about. And if she would have liked Pentious because he's nice, then Cherri might think that he's easy to manage. Considering the shit she did at the club, I can't be convinced that Cherri would never think of Pentious as 'easy to manage'
Husk and Angel Dust -
Considering this was more important to the writers, there's more development but I still think of it as messed up and/or problematic from both sides.
First up, on Angel, he constantly invaded Husk's boundaries and personal space and just kept doing it no matter how blatantly Husk hates it. There's even a possibility that the scene at the bar in episode 4 was even a power move on Angel's part, just wanting to feel powerful or in charge for once. And just because there's a reason why Angel would do that doesn't mean I'll think it's okay for him to do that
I guess Husk takes in stride, while we're moving onto him. For whatever reason, he just cares that Angel is fake that it makes it fine that his boundaries were pushed all the time. I'm getting that impression anyways. But then he starts insulting him in the song and I first had the legitimate impression that Husk was doing it on purpose to get back at Angel for the harassment. Husk also seems to care about influencing Angel however he wants even if it's not consistent. Like how he says that Angel should have pride in being, according to the lines in the song, 'a coked-up dick-sucking ho' but then he turns around and makes it sound bad that Angel is maybe thinking about indulging in drugs
I guess Husk and Angel are fine when the writers didn't have them fight but I still think how they were before hooking up wasn't really all that great, especially if it's supposed to be a good relationship. I mean, I wouldn't consider it good if I got together with someone who continuously acted like they got better things to do than care about if they made me comfortable. The same for someone who makes me feel like I'm being insulted in some attempt to 'cheer me up' after I break down. (I got a little confused about some things that Angel said when he broke down so I didn't take him all that seriously when he went on about it but I digress and the point still stands)
Moments of Stupidity 10
Okay, so I'm not getting into Stolas's childish behavior with Stella at the beginning because that's more fueled by selfishness than by stupidity. And while I may not know what the fuck to make out of Loona this episode but any stupidity from that was once again from the writing than anything else
Seeing Stars -
I guess first instance of stupidity goes to I.M.P. when Octavia snuck into. Loona's one thing, since she clearly chose not to say anything about Octavia's presence but three fucking assassins really couldn't detect the arrival of a teenage girl into their office? Because I'm thinking that assassins would eventually be honed to keep aware of their surroundings at all times, even if they're not thinking about it (if I'm wrong, go ahead and correct me) Even if Octavia was being as stealthy as she could, I would have expected for alertness from goddamn assassins. I'd also say install but I guess that can be excused for that not being in the budget
Up next is the fact that Blitzo had such a simple, easy code that Octavia was able to crack it on her first fucking try. What's worse, reading on TVtropes revealed to me that 1234 is a default code in every safe when you first get one. So Blitzo never fucking bothered to change the damn default code
Also, something for Octavia for just sneaking into the office and stealing the book the way she did. First off, how was she able to get to I.M.P. headquarters? There should have been a shit ton of people who at least tried preying on her in some shape or form. Even if Octavia never made some official public debut or something - which could be why people didn't try kidnapping her even once, let alone as often as they did Stolas - she's still a teenage girl wandering alone in crime-ridden city. That alone opens so many shifty doors to be ever be comfortable with. And she very clearly made a lucky guess that the default code never changed on Blitzo's safe, because I would never think anyone would be so fucking lazy and/or stupid to never change it when they get a safe. This is only even remotely forgivable for Octavia in the sense that she's a teenager running on emotions. It's not like anyone ever thinks things through when they're at that age, especially when being emotional
Once again, Stolas gets multiple instances, so I gotta number them. Starting with 1) he got stupidly hypocritical again, what with chewing out I.M.P., mostly Blitzo, about leaving the Grimoire laying around. Just like in Truth Seekers, you fucking asshat in a stupid crowned tophat, you're the one who gave Blitzo of all demons the Grimoire. Just to get railed every full moon. If you're going to care so damn much about getting in trouble - which still hasn't mattered yet, by the way - then don't do it in the first place. Not to mention, who are you to lecture anyone about losing track of important shit when you're the one who only found out Octavia was missing when you were told that?
2) not using any of his spells to find Octavia. There's already the bubbles spell that Stolas clearly used in Murder Family and probably in Truth Seekers. And if Stolas was fully clothed and not wet from the bath in the latter episode I said here because he was actually spying on Blitzo some other way, then Stolas can just use that. And given how Stolas entered the human world without the Grimoire in Truth Seekers, there was plenty he could have done without it in this episode. At most, Stolas just needed to go back home to do it before going straight to Octavia
3) the whole thing about not providing disguises for the imps. What the fuck you mean you can't remember how to do the damn spell for the disguises? Yeah, Stolas said that his powers are limited without the Grimoire but then Stolas and Blitzo treated good or bad memory as more important of a reason to not provide disguises than actually having the Grimoire. So much for the 'good memory' that you gloated about in The Circus, huh, Stolas? Besides, you'd think that, for your position, knowing the spells in your book would be as important to ingrain into your mind as phone numbers to call people with. And with instance 2 of Stolas's stupid moments, that just makes the excuse being limited without the grimoire even stupider, since Stolas would just be able to use the damn bubbles spell in his fucking bathtub or whatever else he might have used in Truth Seekers
4) never departing with Blitzo when it's obvious he's too held up performing for a sitcom so that he can look for his daughter. Fuck seriously, Stolas may have said that he's Blitzo's manager and all but I'm thinking the actor is far more important for the show than the manager. At least to the extent where no guards or staff will really care if Stolas leaves while Blitzo is still on stage. Yet he never left, not until the building was burning down to the ground
Okay, so now onto I.M.P. because they were plenty stupid, too; not detecting Octavia despite being assassins isn't all to it. First up, Moxxie for getting sidetracked with all the indie artist shit and Millie for not trying harder to do anything about it. Seriously, Millie got frustrated with it but she's at fault for the big bag of shit that Moxxie had as Moxxie himself is. Not to mention, if she didn't try all that hard to stop Moxxie's insistence on buying artist's merch and even joining in on the song and also asking Blitzo over texts about bondage shit that Moxxie might like, then that probably means she never cared all that much on finding Octavia. So why did she bother getting upset?
And next up, Blitzo, Loona, and also Stolas now that I realize it, for never noticing the big ass board of Brennon Ragers that was right above the costume store. Since this episode decides half-heartedly that disguises matter so you'd think they wouldn't pick a famous celebrity for Blitzo's disguise if they really wanted to blend in. And yeah, it only matters halfway concerning disguises because of the humans' own stupidity made it that Blitzo really could have just stayed as himself so even just getting a disguise from a costume shop was a stupid waste of time and it only really contributed to the plot via Blitzo getting confused for a celebrity
And as for the humans, explaining more of the paragraph above, they decided that Octavia, Millie, and Moxxie were just in costume. The worst reaction was Octavia getting strange looks. So again, Blitzo really could have stayed as himself and just getting him a disguise from a costume shop was stupid all on its own. Also, we never got even a throwaway line as to why the imps don't have disguises at their convenience, just like in Truth Seekers. And neither Stolas and Loona brought it up or did anything about it until after they got to the human world
Finally, I suppose Octavia again for posting pictures of herself in the human world and posting it on her social media. There were episodes that made it important to keep up a masquerade so why would Octavia just do this. Again, I'm thinking that teens do have enough awareness to not blatantly do shit like this that could get them in trouble. If anything, that's easily a whole teen sthick, doing things they're not supposed to discretely. That way, teens can continue breaking rules and get that rush knowing that the parents or guardians they're interacting with are clueless about the rebellion. At least, that's what I thought teens would like. At the very least, they don't want to get in trouble for breaking the rules so that there's already a reason for teens to want to do shit they're not supposed to discretely. And if Octavia genuinely doesn't know about a masquerade that needs to be kept, then that's a stupid moment for not just her, but also her parents. They're supposed to be teaching Octavia shit but they didn't even bother with the biggest and most basic rules