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@evilroachindustrial asked for transcript of Brian’s spontaneous Caleb meta, but/and I ended up doing a transcription of the whole answer to the precipitating question and the conversation Brian, Liam, and Matt had together in answering it. 

[51:55–57:37 of the Twitch VOD]

Q: As Caleb meets more advanced arcanists, whose motives and interests all differ from another, where does he see himself in relation to them? And does he instinctively compare them to Trent to analyze the potential hostility towards him and the group?

Liam: Well yes to the latter part. He’s very distrustful. Um… I mean he went through a traumatic—a very traumatic—situation and it has made him very paranoid and gun shy, and he is— You know, he’s a lot better— 

Brian: (mutters) He’s not fire shy

Matt: He’s come a long way

Liam: He sure has! Um, there’s a lot that he’s never gonna let go of, but he’s come a long way. 

[a brief, but Talks Machina-typical digression]

There’s so much here that I— A lot is changing for him. Or has changed and is still changing. He’s very reactive in a lot of ways. It’s like whatever is laid out in front of him in the moment that matters to him, or that he can take advantage of, or that he cares about. I don’t he’s kind of… [stammering] What’s just spilled out onto the table is going to be a real egg scramble for him I think, because a fucking Betrayer God coming back is so much more important than his bullshit. And I don’t know that it’s going to make him let go of that stuff—completely, or at all, or just a little—but if a Betrayer God is trying to come back and just shit on the world— like, on existence—then all the stuff that he’s been chasing, really… even for him in his, like, traumatized, fucked-up person that he is. You can’t— He has to reevaluate. He has to.

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