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5 months ago

I need to add my humble opinion.

First, I just say I don't read actors' social media, the social media I read is here and just for this last 2 years. FB, Instagram and others aren't my cup of tea. So, I don't know about "Hollywood" stories behind series, movies or others. I discover about Michelle behaviors here.

I know just when I see Hawaii Five-O the first time, I said at my husband: "Shit! They wrote the 2 principal male characters like they wrote all the pair male/female character in the other same shows… everybody'll to want ship them! And American tv show don't write about a principal queer pairing in this type of show. I can't watch it… I'll cry again!" I remember I'm angry, because I know I'll ship them, and yes, I'll fall in love with them because they're charismatics, funnies and crazy… I know I would never see them as an official couple in the TV serie.

And… So, when fans begin to ship. Showrunner saw it. Magic began. Oh, look at this, a new female interest for the hero! Oh, look at, the ex of the second is around here and love him yet. For me, when Catherine appeared, and the Danny's old flam ex Rachel after in the show, it was like a response to stop movement of McDanno's shipping. I don't blame Catherine, like a character she's just the attempt to PL to stop the shipping.

But, for last 30 years, all match in TV show begins the same way: friction, tension and arguments between the 2 partners male/female, who have different points of view on life or work. And they finished together (ok that's now because of Bones to re-write love tropes). We are used to its codes (as Frenchie spectators who watch US tv show, we learned to understand this "code", all spectators in world learn about it!!!), it's like a DNA trope about relationship in American TV, between future lovers. What do you call it? Pull the pigtails? Even the actors saw it, Alex and Scott, and played with that. If the show would to be coherent, the pairing Steve and Danny, after 2 long years, to respect about DADT, are possible. So, in the third season. But no, because it's a gay pairing? With principal characters? No way.

I don't know anything about Catherine's actress, for me, it's just a character (when she came in the show, and PL wrote her) need to finish in the bed and as love relation with Steve, instead of making her a very good friend and keep her like a strong woman who can help Steve sometimes. Because PL need to stop McDanno shipping. I don't dislike Catherine but I don't like her at the same.

Like @mayberrycryptid, I think Catherine character deserves better than to be Steve's destructive lover. Her story is better to write about how she's fierce, clever and strong woman in army. Not like a woman who do a guy a favor just to sleep with him, and then uses him, lies to him, betrays him, abandons him and uses him again. She clearly enjoys having friends with benefits relationships, but not so a serious relationship. And it's okay. But when show write her who use his "lover or ex" like Doris use his son… That's toxic. I find the show to write Steve in toxic relations, like Danny with Rachel (and her lies *cough cough* Charlie) and I don't like Catherine and Rachel because of that.

Steve and Danny lived shits in their jobs and lives, and angst are normal for this type of show but, an example, in Bones, when Bones and Boots finish like couple, the show doesn't stop, and it becomes better, because we see a true work between the character, how each helped the other balance through the shit of their lives and jobs

I understand so some fans have difficulty with the character of Catherine: In fact, for me, PL write her like the Second/Other Women. She comes in the show to create a female lover against the male lover who fans choice at the beginning. Maybe bashing Catherine's character is a possible angry response about her implication with Steve in the show. I don't know if Michelle's behavior made a difference. Perhaps?

Ok, I stop my ramble here. I hope a different point of view to help you. Have a nice day.

I used to think that I didn't like Catherine Rollins because in the early 2010s fanfics tended to be quite misogynistic with the female love interests of the protagonists, so I thought my dislike of her was maybe internalized misogyny. But now that I watch H50 again I REALLY don't like her, the character seems horrible to me, especially knowing everything that happens towards the end of the serie. Do you think it's still some internalized misogyny? Or is the character really bad? I would like to see your opinions especially those who ship mcdanno


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5 months ago

@mayberrycryptid

OMG! I cried when Charlie and Amita broken in the end of Numbers, like a baby. Mentalist too, the protagonists finished together, the second pairing too. I don't remember others show for the moment but, yes… Lucifer too, no?

Catherine and Rachel are not written like protagonists but like antagonists. After a "magic" moment, the time of "beginning" love, all situations turn like lies, abandonment, or using the guys to their advantage.

PL characterized them as obstacles to McDanno. The beginning is all pretty, cheesy, nice and then…

Catherine needs something: "Steve?" Steve's the same: "Catherine? help for my cas X". for me, it's like they have a commercial relationship… No love relation.

Rachel has problems: "Danny? I'm no happy in my life. I make your life a hell, I take our girl like hostage during divorce and after, but now I need some love, give me love because I'm a princess (see Queen Rachel's mother), and man must give me I need."

But Danny doesn't have the right to say one word about how Rachel lives his life. I re-watched episode 16, season 1: She said Danny doesn't say anything about his marriage with Stan. Ok. All this episode, we see Danny talk only about Grace and her protection. But they did end up sleeping together, in the future. Because she wasn't happy in her new marriage? WTF?

It's also a misogynistic way to write them, in addition to keeping them bland. They're just treated as woman in the bed, a one-night stand, and, in the future, they only seem to be there to ask something from the male character and use it to their advantage. Like if "have sex with somebody" is a normal commercial exchange to have something of this somebody. It denigrates the way Catherine is initially shown as a woman with a position in the military, important enough to have access to essential informations.She has an access about some technologies because she's smart and clever, and Steve asked some help. It's borderline because she was with him… it's not a good picture about womans. She gave him because they fucked? How was professional? For Steve as for Catherine.

I don't like how PL treats his female characters, in H50, as Magnum and McGyver. Kono is the rare woman to escape about this misogynic view. (Criminal Minds and Teen Wolf are the same... so it's a typical problem for Hollywood showrunner?)

NCIS womans are more badass and realistic for me. (Kate, Ziva, Abby, Sheppard, Kenzi, Hetty…)

I used to think that I didn't like Catherine Rollins because in the early 2010s fanfics tended to be quite misogynistic with the female love interests of the protagonists, so I thought my dislike of her was maybe internalized misogyny. But now that I watch H50 again I REALLY don't like her, the character seems horrible to me, especially knowing everything that happens towards the end of the serie. Do you think it's still some internalized misogyny? Or is the character really bad? I would like to see your opinions especially those who ship mcdanno


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