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Hamilton (in Quiet uptown): “if I could trade his life for mine”

*Four songs later*

Hamilton: dies

Eliza: “Well… he’s dead! Where is my son?!”

Hamilton Text Posts Part 2/?

what do you mean finn doesn’t hear this song whenever he sees poe

(Modern AU.)

Hamilton: I know some of you see Threads as the successor to Twitter but I personally hope both apps burn to the ground

Eliza who just wants her husband to sleep with her: Alexander what the actual fuck-

Source: @staffs-secret-blog

Henry Strauss 🤝 Elizabeth Schuyler

Doing everything in their power to tell their lovers' story

i love reading hamilton's letters to elizabeth when they were in their courtship because sometimes it goes like:

hahaha (laughs in cody ko frat bro) you're so hot babe...i bet you're only dating me because you feel bad for me or something...hahaha...unless 👀... betsey? do you really like me? betsey why aren't you writing back betsey-

this bitch was double-checking, triple-checking that eliza liked him. you know. as a man. right? yeah you said you're gonna marry me but it's unclear. i'm not rich btw :( will you hate me one day??

hamilton being needy in his letters to eliza

i tried to do a funny compilation of all the times he's needy in his courtship letters but holy shit it happens basically every two paragraphs so buckle up, it's long.

Exhibit A: Begging her to write more often

lmao "this is a threat. write more."

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he's literally comparing the number of letters he sends, "three to one"

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this is a trend, him going "why no letters?? text me back girl."

Exhibit B: Why he's writing so many letters

love the washington cameo as the cockblocker smh

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double combo of "i saw a rival guy in my dreams :(" and "here's two more letters at once"

Exhibit C: Nooo I love you more. Vomit enducing.

my betsey. aw.

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Exhibit D: Tell me the truth would you love me if i was a worm

"you know i'm broke right. tell me if you'll hate me for it."

not him spiraling imagining her saying "nope can't do it" the day before the wedding

hamilton, mister would you still love me if i was a worm

i forgot the most blatant example of hamilton being the "do you like me or like like me" boyfriend in my last post:

For god’s sake My Dear Betsey try to write me oftener and give me the picture of your heart in all its varieties of light and shade. Tell me whether it feels the same for me or did when we were together, or whether what seemed to be love was nothing more than a generous sympathy. The possibility of this frequently torments me.

this was their canon dynamic idc.

"are you going to pledge your life and allegiance to me because you're a people pleaser? tell me now betsey. "

also can i say that i love him excusing himself in the earlier lines:

If you knew my heart thoroughly you would see it so full of tenderness for you that you would not only pardon, but you would even love my weaknesses.

he's going "my heart is so weak because of you". pulling the "i'm just a girl" card.

something something about how hamilton seemed to spend less words on the things that hit him emotionally - the silence regarding his childhood/parentage (although his fear of public opinion probably played into that substantially), john laurens' death, philip's death. even on his own deathbed, the way he asked to see his children but when he saw them lined up, he couldn't say a word, and turned away.

there's something tragic there. a man like him being unable to find the words.

on a lighter note i was asked what i thought hamilton and elizabeth's proposal (?) went like. i can see him making a grand speech only to stay silent after she says yes, which is unheard of for him lmao. and after that horrible awkward pause, he finally goes ..."you mean it right?" and does the whole "do you like like me or is this whole courtship something you went through because you felt bad for me" dance. he needs words of affirmation, what can i say.

omfg not betsey pulling this shit at john church's wedding 😭 she'd do this every time they try to have a family outing, going "i'll stop it once john finishes the biography and not a moment before" asdfk

I just came across this beautiful wedding photo of the future king Edward VII and his wife. oh yeah, and of course his mother queen Victoria dressed in FULL MOURNING ROBES SITTING BETWEEN THE HAPPY(?) COUPLE AND GAZING WISTFULLY AT A BUST OF HER DEAD HUSBAND

anyway: imagine if Betsey Schuyler pulled something like this hrhdhshjsjs

is this hamliza or am i going crazy

after a lot of hemming and hawing i decided to give alex and eliza: a love story a chance. but holy shit. at first i thought it was taking a few historical liberties to give hamliza this enemies to lovers arc (which still doesn't make sense) but then it escalated into utter mayhem. i am confused at what beef this author had with henry livingston.

alex & eliza strikes again: revolutionary use of freeze frame epilogue narration

spoiler warning for alex & eliza love & war, if there's anyone who cares enough about that book to need it lmao.

i fucking love the second book in the alex & eliza trilogy because right at the end of part 1 (didn't even realize there were parts until i was told it was the end of part 1) it has a whole-ass epilogue montage like those corny sitcoms that freeze frame and go: "johnny would go on to become the world's greatest ice-cream test taster".

one moment we're going through what is supposedly a historically accurate story where after the battle of yorktown, aaron burr tells betsey that alexander is alive by delivering a letter where her husband, the quintessential 18th century man, writes:

"pack your bags, my dearest! we are moving to the city! - A."

and the next, we're suddenly in italics for around 20 pages of a textbook recounting of the next few years - the author throws away all the historically accurate emotional moments like laurens' death. absolutely incredible.

also: there's no philip? we have a mrs. schuyler birthing scene but there is no mention of the hamilton couple's first child. i'm so confused. where on earth is philip hamilton, and can we put up a missing child poster for him?

so here's a little taste of what the epilogue section reads like:

“Chief among these visionaries was Alexander Hamilton, whose accomplishments during the Revolutionary War would soon be overshadowed by the work he did for the budding republic. ”

oh i'm sorry 5th grade social studies textbook. this isn't foreshadowing, this is straight up telling the reader what's going to happen next lmao.

#save elizabeth schuyler hamilton from male biographers 2024

Just got pissed off so bad. I'm in the middle of reading Burr, Hamilton, and Jefferson: A Study in Character, which presents an intriguing argument that Burr deserves to be put back into the Founding Father Pantheon, so to speak. The author doesn't shy away from hitting hard against the idea that Jeff & Ham were morally superior to Burr, and I was on board! Ready to go!

But then. During the discussion of the women in each of their lives, the author decides the best way to further promote Burr's attitude towards women compared to Jefferson and Hamilton is to disparage Martha Jefferson & Elizabeth Hamilton?

On Martha Jefferson:

Martha Wayles Skelton had been a widow, and none of Jefferson's biographers, even the resourceful Fawn Brodie, has been able to tell us much about her—from the solitary letter remaining to us in her hand or the accounts of their contemporaries—beyond the general impression that she was handsome, musical, and frail.

On Elizabeth Hamilton:

Hamilton's Elizabeth was an heiress, the daughter of an upstate squire, Philip Schuyler, with Livingston and van Rensselaer connections. She was plain, straightforward, loyal, and neurasthenic, endured his flagrant and frequent infidelities, and lived to the brink of the Civil War.

I'm sorry, I don't know enough about Martha J. to protest to her characterization, but I think I can say something about Eliza. Plain? Neurasthenic? And once again, annoyed at the lack of citation or evidence for flagrant and frequent infidelities - but putting that aside, even if it were true, I don't like how her staying in her marriage is subtly implied to be some failure or at least less interesting than a woman who didn't "endure" them. There's a lack of consideration of both her own strength & the societal circumstances of that time that would have influenced her actions.

On Theodosia:

Her character emerges from their large and fervent correspondence. She was confident, well connected, well read, beautiful even after a burn scarred her face, witty, worldly, and full of expectations of him.

Okay. The author saw the point and it sailed over his head. "From their large and fervent correspondence" is key here. Like I said earlier, I don't know enough about Martha Jefferson, but I bet that "handsome, musical, frail" is probably not an all-encompassing picture of her. The similarity between her and Eliza? We don't have the letters that they wrote to their husbands. It's unfair to judge Theodosia (don't get me wrong! she was well read and intelligent, that's not what i'm denying) from her correspondence with Burr, but then not acknowledge that the lack of that perspective would impact how we view the other two women.

And to top it all off:

Unlike Jefferson's and Hamilton's, Burr's character was molded by the love of a woman of immense force and intelligence.

Neither Hamilton nor Jefferson married a woman who evidenced such force of character and independence of view.

Jesus Christ. There's plenty to criticize about Jefferson & Hamilton, and I really wanted to see a well-reasoned argument about Burr's character and whatnot but this lacks nuance and is unnecessarily dismissive. It pisses me off that a book that seems determined to break down the idolized version of Hamilton, somehow ends up using his wife to further their angle, just like biased Hamiltonian biographies. In both cases, Eliza is the plain, unintelligent, steadfast wife. For sympathetic authors like Chernow, that's somehow justification for the Reynolds affair. For Roger G. Kennedy, that's used in an argument against her husband. "Let's talk attitude towards women! Hamilton & Jefferson didn't have intellectual wives! Point for Burr!"

I don't know nearly enough about Martha Jefferson to say anything of merit, but really?

To give credit where credit is due, I think Kennedy is trying to make the point here that Theodosia Bartow Burr was a major influence on Burr, as "Burr's character blossomed in the radiance of his wife and mentor". He also goes on to talk about various genuine reasons why Burr's attitude towards women is noteworthy. But I still don't like the way he dismissed the other two women as what? Not smart enough to help their husbands' characters blossom? Maybe there's merit to this book outside of this one section, The Women, but right now I'm not in the mood. Am I being dramatic? Idk.

Hamliza fanart 😍

eliza fanart from like august ! ! :3

also my name is NOT savannah and plz do not call me that thank you :P

heh . . queer people from the 1700s . . . save me . . giggles maniacally .

plz dont burn me at the stake .

also flags for anyone who needs them [ with their full government names because erm im silly ] :

- alexander hamilton --- pansexual / polyamorous / cisgender male

- john laurens --- gay / asexual / ambiamorous / transgender

- gilbert du motier , marquis de lafayette --- bisexual [ female preference ] / demisexual / demiromantic / ambiamorous / demiboy

- hercules mulligan --- aroace / cisgender male

- aaron burr --- omnisexual [ female preference ] / demisexual / demiromantic / cisgender male

- thomas jefferson --- bisexual [ male preference ] / demiromantic / polyamorous / transmasc / demiboy

- james madison --- bisexual [ no preference ] / aroace / libramasc

- elizabeth schuyler - hamilton --- bisexual [ male preference ] / demisexual / cisgender female

- angelica schuyler - church --- omnisexual [ male preference ] / demiromantic / ambiamorous / transfem

- peggy schuyler --- pansexual / asexual / ambiamorous / transfem / demigirl

if you dont know what a flag means and you dont want to do research , then you can ask me :P

could you draw some laurens and eliza interactions pls....

them 🤲✨

elizaaaaa

Eliza: Stop doing that.

Alexander: Stop doing what?

Eliza: Saying things that make me wanna kiss the hell out of you.

Eliza: Can you name a single city in Oklahoma?

Alexander: Oklahoma City, bitch!

('Tis a joke. Ham would never swear at his lovely wife)

Alexander: Where did you get that tomato soup?

Eliza: It’s actually a bowl of ketchup I just microwaved.

(When Eliza's too tired to put effort into cooking actual food)

Alexander: So you like cats?

Eliza: Yeah.

Alexander: Tries to impress her by slowly pushing a glass off the table.

Alexander: You got a date yet Eliza?

Eliza: No.

Alexander: Well you do now! Get your ass up and hold my hand!

Eliza: You’d be stupid to lay a hand on me.

Alexander: Oh, you’d be surprised how much stupid shit I do.

(She's mad at him because he swore in front of baby Philip and Angie)

Alexander: Thought I was meowing back at my cat for the past hour, but it was just me and Eliza meowing at each other from different rooms in the house.

(I don't know if they would actually do this, but I like to believe they would <3)

Alexander: Snow got me feeling some type of way.

Eliza: That's hypothermia.

Alexander: Damn, the paramedics told me it was the magic of Christmas.

(Eliza is very much concerned and trying to get him to go inside and sit in front of the fire)

Eliza: The first time I saw you, you stole my heart.

Alexander: But I'm a kleptomaniac, so that doesn't mean anything.

(Oh, it means everything <3)

Eliza: Let’s watch Sharkboy and Lavagirl.

Alexander: Okay.

Eliza: And make out during the scary parts.

Alexander: Th-

Alexander: The scary parts.

Alexander: Of Sharkboy and Lavagirl.

(Yes, Alexander. She didn't stutter. The scary parts. Of Sharkboy and Lavagirl)

Alexander: I’m so tired.

Eliza: Did you get to bed late?

Alexander: No.

Eliza: Did you do something strenuous?

Alexander: No.

Eliza: Then why are you tired?

Alexander: I’m alive.

Eliza: Sounds exhausting.

(Eliza is right. Being alive is super exhausting 😔)

Alexander: Can I have 2 straws with that milkshake?

Eliza: Aww-

Alexander: With 2 straws, I can drink it double as fast!

(No, because he would definitely do this. You can't prove otherwise)

Alexander: I don't know how to tell you this, but... I love you.

Eliza: That's great, Alexander. Especially considering the fact we've been married for 10 years and have 4 children.

(Ham just got back from drinking with his friends. He's drunk 😁)

Alexander, trying to flirt: So, you come around here often?

Eliza, confused: I mean, this is our house, so yeah.

Eliza: Alex, could we go shopping? All the snacks are gone.

Alexander: I AM LITERALLY RIGHT HERE?!

Alexander comes home absolutely drunk, undresses, and stands in Eliza’s bedroom.

Eliza: Babe, are you.. coming to bed?

Alexander: No thank you, I’m sure you’re lovely but I have a girlfriend.

Alexander: Lies on the ground and falls asleep.

Eliza: ...

Eliza: We're literally married, though???

(Again, Ham is drunk 😁👍)

Eliza: Do you want to explain the text you sent me last night?

Alexander: It was autocorrect.

Eliza: Autocorrect wrote "You're so hot. Please step on me"?

Alexander: Yes.

(Yeah, that happens sometimes. Totally 👍)

Eliza: Alexander, can I speak to you for a minute? In private.

Alexander: Ooh, someone's in trouble. It's me. I don't know why I did that.

(Again, Ham swore in front of the kids)

Eliza: I want to wake up with you every day for the rest of our lives.

Alexander: I wake up at 4:30 AM every day.

Eliza: I want to see you at some point every day for the rest of our lives.

(And that's on those rare occasions that he actually does sleep)

Eliza: Okay, I’m going to get the wedding cake.

Alexander: Perfect, while you do that I’ll check on the ring bear.

Eliza: ...

Eliza: You mean ring bearER, right?

Alexander: ...

Eliza: Look me in the eyes and tell me you are not going to bring a dangerous wild animal to our wedding.

(He totally is. As he should 😌✨)

Eliza: And have you learnt anything this Christmas, Alexander?

Alexander: …Not really.

Eliza: Nothing?

Alexander: Tell you one thing I have learnt—Christmas; ultimately, commercial holiday. Who's the real winner at Christmas? Amazon. they have drones now! Tiny little dystopian slaves delivering iPads and headphones. I ordered a toaster; It was on the doorstep five hours later! Do we need that? It was 4.99! For a toaster! I mean, someone's being exploited there.

(And that, kids, is the true meaning of Christmas. Exploiting people into buying stuff that they don't really need under the guise of it being worth it. That also fits for Black Friday, actually-)

Alexander: Alright, so the vampire's gravestone is—

Eliza: Cenotaph.

Alexander: What?

Eliza: It's only a gravestone if it marks the location of a body. A monument honouring someone whose body isn't present is a cenotaph.

Alexander: I'm... not sure that's how it works if the body gets up and walks away on its own.

Eliza: There's a precedent for gravestones being reclassified as cenotaphs if the body is later removed and reinterred elsewhere. There's no rule that says the body itself can't do the removing.

Alexander: Okay, but the body is very much coming back. That's kind of what we're here to accomplish.

Eliza: So it's a temporary cenotaph.

Alexander: And naturally our greatest concern here is avoiding semantic ambiguity.

Eliza: Semantic ambiguity is how vampires get you.

(I just thought this one was silly. I liked it)

Alexander: My future partner must be brave, strong, intelligent, successful and organized.

Eliza: Steps on a caterpillar and proceeds to drop to her knees and sob while apologizing profusely.

Alexander: That one. I want that one.

Eliza: I still have no idea how I’m attracted to you...

Alexander: Yeah, well, you’re stuck with me, and no take backs, honey.