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Here, have a limerick about Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton:
There once was a girl called Eliza To her husband she was an adviser She cared a whole lot When her husband was shot And showed us that women are wiser
And as a sequel, one about Catherine van Rensselaer Schuyler:
There once was a lady called Kitty She was famous for being quite pretty And of course, she was Dutch Her ancestors were such With their money they built New York city
#save elizabeth schuyler hamilton from male biographers 2024
Just got pissed off so bad. I'm in the middle of reading Burr, Hamilton, and Jefferson: A Study in Character, which presents an intriguing argument that Burr deserves to be put back into the Founding Father Pantheon, so to speak. The author doesn't shy away from hitting hard against the idea that Jeff & Ham were morally superior to Burr, and I was on board! Ready to go!
But then. During the discussion of the women in each of their lives, the author decides the best way to further promote Burr's attitude towards women compared to Jefferson and Hamilton is to disparage Martha Jefferson & Elizabeth Hamilton?
On Martha Jefferson:
Martha Wayles Skelton had been a widow, and none of Jefferson's biographers, even the resourceful Fawn Brodie, has been able to tell us much about her—from the solitary letter remaining to us in her hand or the accounts of their contemporaries—beyond the general impression that she was handsome, musical, and frail.
On Elizabeth Hamilton:
Hamilton's Elizabeth was an heiress, the daughter of an upstate squire, Philip Schuyler, with Livingston and van Rensselaer connections. She was plain, straightforward, loyal, and neurasthenic, endured his flagrant and frequent infidelities, and lived to the brink of the Civil War.
I'm sorry, I don't know enough about Martha J. to protest to her characterization, but I think I can say something about Eliza. Plain? Neurasthenic? And once again, annoyed at the lack of citation or evidence for flagrant and frequent infidelities - but putting that aside, even if it were true, I don't like how her staying in her marriage is subtly implied to be some failure or at least less interesting than a woman who didn't "endure" them. There's a lack of consideration of both her own strength & the societal circumstances of that time that would have influenced her actions.
On Theodosia:
Her character emerges from their large and fervent correspondence. She was confident, well connected, well read, beautiful even after a burn scarred her face, witty, worldly, and full of expectations of him.
Okay. The author saw the point and it sailed over his head. "From their large and fervent correspondence" is key here. Like I said earlier, I don't know enough about Martha Jefferson, but I bet that "handsome, musical, frail" is probably not an all-encompassing picture of her. The similarity between her and Eliza? We don't have the letters that they wrote to their husbands. It's unfair to judge Theodosia (don't get me wrong! she was well read and intelligent, that's not what i'm denying) from her correspondence with Burr, but then not acknowledge that the lack of that perspective would impact how we view the other two women.
And to top it all off:
Unlike Jefferson's and Hamilton's, Burr's character was molded by the love of a woman of immense force and intelligence.
Neither Hamilton nor Jefferson married a woman who evidenced such force of character and independence of view.
Jesus Christ. There's plenty to criticize about Jefferson & Hamilton, and I really wanted to see a well-reasoned argument about Burr's character and whatnot but this lacks nuance and is unnecessarily dismissive. It pisses me off that a book that seems determined to break down the idolized version of Hamilton, somehow ends up using his wife to further their angle, just like biased Hamiltonian biographies. In both cases, Eliza is the plain, unintelligent, steadfast wife. For sympathetic authors like Chernow, that's somehow justification for the Reynolds affair. For Roger G. Kennedy, that's used in an argument against her husband. "Let's talk attitude towards women! Hamilton & Jefferson didn't have intellectual wives! Point for Burr!"
I don't know nearly enough about Martha Jefferson to say anything of merit, but really?
To give credit where credit is due, I think Kennedy is trying to make the point here that Theodosia Bartow Burr was a major influence on Burr, as "Burr's character blossomed in the radiance of his wife and mentor". He also goes on to talk about various genuine reasons why Burr's attitude towards women is noteworthy. But I still don't like the way he dismissed the other two women as what? Not smart enough to help their husbands' characters blossom? Maybe there's merit to this book outside of this one section, The Women, but right now I'm not in the mood. Am I being dramatic? Idk.
Sometimes wife need reassurance.
unfortunately believe that in a modern au eliza would absolutely listen to him and i and go "this is soooo me and alex." they'd do the cringey couple posts with that song in the background for sure.
honestly fair. the way she defended ham's reputation decades after his death, made his personal enemies her personal enemies james monroe? eliza was definitely ride or die. she's like abigail adams except abigail adams hears the song and thinks it's garbage even if she secretly goes "me and john fr fr".
i love that eliza really didn't like talleyrand and said that although ham admired his talents, he also "detested" talleyrand's lack of principles.
personally, i do think that ham liked talleyrand. obviously talleyrand had a big fat crush on him, but since ham was planning on sending philip to france (we all know that he didn't play with his family) - i'm assuming that he was at least amused and fond of him, even if he did have quibbles with his principles.
so betsey saying that ham, like her, wasn't a fan of talleyrand gives me the impression that whenever she expressed her disapproval, he would just go "of course of course, absolutely. the lack of morals! you are right as always" and let her commence her hating in peace. i dunno, it's such a mundane detail that makes them feel real. like yes, hamilton was a ** founding father ** but he was also a guy who got along well with a person his wife disliked, and wisely shut his mouth. my dad does the same thing. just longterm, middle age couple things, you know? ugh.
new york man screams over his future wife and promptly forgets very important passcode
pss pss amrev artists
we can't fall behind other actually comprehensible fandoms...anyone who draws amrev pairings with this meme will have my eternal gratitude
potential contenders:
lafayette to washington 24/7
turn subset: tallmadge towards washington to be fr
you know what, the entire nation foaming at the mouth over washington
hamilton to john andre
talleyrand to hamilton lmfao
lams or hamliza (interchangably both the fan and the celeb)
thomas jefferson to france
thomas jefferson to miku (pls this one pls pls)
john adams to abigail adams
Different portrayals of Alexander and Elizabeth Hamilton.
I was in a hurry while coloring this
I COULDN'T HELP MYSELF 😭😭
You forfeit all rights to my heart.
When the wind rises 🫶
Drew on a diff art style bc art block ALMOST got me
u guys really love him that much huh
With my last idea; I shall cherish the sweet hope of meeting you in a better world.
all those guilty of loving this man too much say "aye"
Okay im gonna do my homework now
Hamilton frowns at her, noticing her aim. "We have no ice skates."
She laughs like a tinkle of bells. "We have shoes upon our feet."
genuinely soooooo proud of this. I love this scene - I think about it constantly. god bless duty & inclination. 🩵
They slip and slide back to the shore, her heels nearly betraying her into falling so Hamilton must catch her by the elbows. Her hand touches his cheek as she regains her balance and he leans into the touch for the barest moment - reminds him of a different hand creeping high into his hair, of the touch of a hand replaced by lips. He wonders what Miss Schuyler's lips should feel like under his.
(he loves his lovers so beautifully - and this book is perfect in the way it puts it. <3)
historical hamliza 100K hurt comfort reincarnation slow burn when??
can we talk more about how ham said to eliza "I shall cherish the sweet hope of meeting you in a better world."
heh . . queer people from the 1700s . . . save me . . giggles maniacally .
plz dont burn me at the stake .
also flags for anyone who needs them [ with their full government names because erm im silly ] :
- alexander hamilton --- pansexual / polyamorous / cisgender male
- john laurens --- gay / asexual / ambiamorous / transgender
- gilbert du motier , marquis de lafayette --- bisexual [ female preference ] / demisexual / demiromantic / ambiamorous / demiboy
- hercules mulligan --- aroace / cisgender male
- aaron burr --- omnisexual [ female preference ] / demisexual / demiromantic / cisgender male
- thomas jefferson --- bisexual [ male preference ] / demiromantic / polyamorous / transmasc / demiboy
- james madison --- bisexual [ no preference ] / aroace / libramasc
- elizabeth schuyler - hamilton --- bisexual [ male preference ] / demisexual / cisgender female
- angelica schuyler - church --- omnisexual [ male preference ] / demiromantic / ambiamorous / transfem
- peggy schuyler --- pansexual / asexual / ambiamorous / transfem / demigirl
if you dont know what a flag means and you dont want to do research , then you can ask me :P