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I propse a slightly different version:

Just because I do think that Endevour wouldn’t kill Dabi, but also wouldn’t be any use if it came to a physical fight with him, considering what happen last time. And Hawks would go for the kill and his favourite hero having a different opinion about that would be a blast to read. “What do you mean, you don’t want to kill your firstborn?”

Shoto in the background gets ready to take down Hawks.

I figured out how to uphold the shounen required fight scenes while also having natsuo non violently talk dabi down:

Shouto calls natsuo over to talk to Dabi. The two have a good heart to heart while Shouto beats the shit out of enji and hawks.

Like this? Yeah, I'd enjoy that

I am reblogging this again, because it seems we are having two different conversations when I only wanted to address the question you asked: “Though for real, for real, what do y'all want at this point? What part of Endeavor's life isn't a punishment right now?”

I did not in any way intent to counter your argument about the pro hero’s occupation with capturing the escapees right now, I stated myself, that it is a top priority right now. I absolutely agree with you on that notion that the immediate safety of the civilians by re-capturing the escapees, especially people like Muscular or Moonfish should be top priority right now.

My comment was meant as an mere analysis of the current opinions in th fandom, an observation if you will, and so is the following:

When I read your original post it seemed that you genuinely did not understand the issue people still have with Endevour at the moment and I simply wanted to answer that, not to counter your argument, in fact I agree with it.

“YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS WILL COME FROM THIS.”

Is what you said.  And it’s not wrong, but neither do you if there are any legal repercussions coming from this at all, which is why I answered your question of what people still want right now. I based my answer on two things:

1. The answer I gave explains “what part of aren’t a punishment right now” from the current narrative that people take issue that Enji right now does not have any legal repercussions and that is something that upsets people, hence my original repost explaining this.

 2.The narrative of the manga during the press conference in chapter  306:

We have an observing narration for this chapter, which allows as to see it unfold without any personal objection from either Dabi or Endevour. And it shows us that Endevour still keeps his position of being the top hero with no currently addressed legal persecution after he confessed the abuse of his family and Dabi’s reaction to it is simply: “I didn’t go far enough”.

So from Dabi’s perspective he sees that nothing has changed on both ends of the issues addressed by him which are a) Endevour the pro hero gets away with it and b) it mirrors young Toya as a child that just wanted not to be ignored, which means through Dabi’s eyes that Enji the father did not change. (Here’s a link to a summary from Dabi’s perspective about the watch me language of Endevour and him, to make it clearer.)

None of my argument was mean to counter your stand on priorities, in fact I support it, is was merely meant as an explanation on what still upsets people right now.

“Also, I don't know how Japan deals w domestic violence legally.”

Well I, to some degree do and since bnha seems to have a legal system close to current Japan’s legal system we can assume that when it comes to abuse laws it is similar.

I can’t find anything (in english) on the punishment for the abuse of the spouse, but there is the “Act on the precention of spouse violence and the protection of the victim.”

The majority of victims of spouse abuse in japan are women and both physical and psychological abuse count, no separation in law for those two (and when I refer to abuse in this threat, I obviously mean both when it comes to the Todoroki family).

I want to highlight some parts of this for the sake of it:

“(2)　Physicians or other medical personnel who detect, during the course of their duties, a person whom they consider to have suffered from injuries or medical conditions resulting from spousal violence may notify the fact to a Spousal Violence Counseling and Support Center or a police officer. In such cases, they shall endeavor to respect the intentions of the person in question.”

Meaning in this situation: Rei was hospitalized and not one medical personnel treating her either noticed something, did not give the information to the authorities or the authorities did not investigate.

And since Rei had a mental breakdown no-one came to investigate properly if her children were in danger either, which is very concerning since Shoto had boiling water poured onto his face.

I emphasize on the properly here, because we do not know if there was any investigation at all or if they for whatever reason (e.g. Endevour pro hero) just believed right away what was being told by others of the household (3 minor abuse victims under the age of 12 and their abuser).

Of course there could be the assumption that Rei did not say anything about Enji’s abuse, that is very likely, but then again they should have checked her children.

So from a legal perspective something went very wrong here.

 On the Child Protection Law and Policy we get a better picture of the legal matters and I am discussing the points as they are addressed in the legal document, so in advance I am sorry there are going to be some callbacks to already discussed parts.

“The Child Welfare Act addresses matters of child welfare, including child abuse, in Japan.  The Child Welfare Act states that all children must be properly nurtured, be afforded a guaranteed quality of life, be loved, be protected, have healthy growth and development of the mind and body, and be able to be independent.

Municipalities must properly provide support in immediate communities, as the basic unit of the local government.

Prefectures must give necessary advice and appropriate assistance to municipalities and properly perform tasks that require specialized knowledge and techniques, and broad responses.

The national government must take all necessary measures, such as the formulation of policies that ensure the setting up of structures where children can be provided with proper care, provision of advice to municipalities and prefectures, and provision of information”

Is the base of it, but again I want to highlight some parts that are crucial to the Todoroki family:

“The Act states that “no person shall abuse a child,” and particularly obligates teachers, officials and staff of schools, child welfare institutions and hospitals, medical practitioners, attorneys, and other persons involved in child welfare in the course of their duties to endeavor to detect child abuse at an early stage”

As with Rei there were seemly no reports or at least no reports that ended with the children being brought to safety, even though Toya showed clear signs of child abuse as not spending time with friends, aggression, anger, rebellious or defiant behavior and self-harm, desperate seek of affection and attention, poor growth, lack of appropriate attention for medical attention. We don’t know if Fuyumi or Natuso showed any signs, but Shoto did (hostility and very visibly the scar) and typical signs in abusive parents shows by Enji that should be seen by teachers include harsh physical discipline and demand of inappropriate level of academic performance.

And again there were no consequences for Endevour for this, since he kept custody of all of his children and kept abusing them.

 “ Materially fail to perform the duty of custody as a custodian, for example,

a. […] b. Abandon and neglect the child for a long period of time in a manner that may interfere with normal development of the child mentally or physically, and  c. […]

Use significantly violent language or take an extreme attitude of rejection against the child, use physical and/or verbal violence upon one’s spouse or partner at home where the child is living, or otherwise speak or behave in a manner that would be significantly traumatic to the child.

 Those are all accounts that Enji violated as a father.

[insert pctures of Enji abusing his children by neglect, violent language, hitting Rei]

 “An abused child is also regarded as an aid-requiring child.  A person who discovers an aid-requiring child must give notification, directly or through a commissioned child welfare volunteer, to the municipal government, a welfare office, or a child guidance center established by the prefectural government.”

“The welfare office or the child guidance center that received the notification must check the situation of the child promptly, if necessary.”

Again either everyone kept their eyes shut at the many signs of child abuse on at least both Toya and Shoto, or authorities decided to not (properly) investigate. As with Rei the physical evidence on Toya might have been hidden by Toya himself (changing in toilets for sports, making sure he only has burning where it can be hidden), but the psychological signs were still there.

“Under the Child Welfare Act, in cases where the guardian’s exercise of custody extremely harms the welfare of the child, such as in cases of physical or mental abuse, or extreme neglect cases, the governor may entrust the child to residential care by obtaining permission from a family court against the parent or guardian’s wishes. If necessary for obtaining permission, the governor may send a child welfare officer to the residence of the child to conduct an investigation.”

So that didn’t happen or it led nowhere since he so far still has custody over Shoto.

There is also the higher punishable:

“D. Child Abuse Subject to Criminal Sanction”

“Keeping a child under one’s control with the intent of causing the child to commit an act that has a mentally and physically harmful impact on the child.”

Aka training your child to become stronger than All Might in the cases of both Toya and Dabi.

“A person who commits the first act above is punishable by imprisonment for not more than ten years and/or a fine of not more than 3,000,000 yen (approximately US$27,000).[37]  A person who commits any of the other listed acts is punishable by imprisonment for not more than three years and/or a fine of not more than 1,000,000 yen (approximately US$9,000)”

Is the legal punishment for what in current Japanese law Endevour could face.

“Under the Act, a person who has detected a child who appears to have suffered child abuse must promptly give notification, directly or through a commissioned child welfare volunteer, to the municipality, welfare office, or child guidance center. This notification has the same effect as the notification of an aid-requiring child under the Child Welfare Act.”

Emphasis on the past tense here:  Dabi made his child abuse public, Endevour even confessed it so legally the ccwv should be immediately informed and then take measures to secure the safety of any children of the abuser, aka notable Shoto who is a minor.

“the mayor of the municipality or the director of the welfare office must “take measures to confirm the safety of the relevant child,”

 “C. Ministry of Education

The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) asks teachers to pay attentions to signs of child abuse and detect it early.  The Ministry also requests that schools create a plan of response to child abuse when child abuse against one of their students is found and to collaborate with welfare and health organizations and the police on a regular basis.”

As previously stated this obviously did not happen.

 Which leads me to your last point:

“His family has things under control.”

First I want to point out the effects of child abuse and neglect for adult survivors:

“the age and developmental stage at which maltreatment occurred: some evidence suggests that the younger the child was at the time of the onset of the maltreatment, the more likely they are to experience problems later in life”

All of the Todoroki children have been subjected from abuse since they were very little (Fuyumi the least, Toya the most].

“the severity of maltreatment: the greater the severity of abuse or neglect, the higher the likelihood of negative outcomes”

“the victim/survivor's perceptions of the abuse: worse outcomes are likely if there is the victim/survivor experiences feelings of self-blame, shame or stigmatisation”

I mentioned this in my ealier post, but I am goint to re-link the lasting psycholocal issue of Enji shift-blaming.

“whether the abuse or neglect was detected and action taken to assure the safety of the child (e.g., child protection intervention)”

Again, that did in Toya, Fuyumi and Natuso’s case not happen until they were adults, Shoto might be debatable.

“positive or protective factors that may have mitigated the effects of maltreatment (e.g., family support, perpetrator readiness for change) and whether victims/survivors received therapeutic services to assist them in recovery”

See Deku helping Shoto by supporting him and working through his trauma, even though Deku is obviously not a therapist of any kind.

“Persisting mental health problems are a common consequence of child abuse and neglect in adults. Mental health problems associated with past histories of child abuse and neglect include” (I’ll only list those who obviously apply to the Todoroki family)

Suicidal behavior, aggression, violence and criminal behaviors.

Sure sounds like Dabi who obviously isn’t fine, but I know that this isn’t what you meant with your post, that is what part 2 is about:

People don’t realize they were being abused as kids very often.

Unlike Dabi, the rest of the Todoroki siblings show no sign of realizing that they were being abused, which is very common among abuse vitims.

Reasons for that, that involve the Todoroki family could be the following:

“We were well-off, so everyone made sure to tell me how grateful I should be. I assumed the emptiness in me was my fault. After all, I should be grateful, so it couldn’t have been my parents, right?”

Obviously through Endevour they have a lot of money, which is how he got married (that marriage is a whole other discussion that I won’t get into here) but having you monetary needs met through getting fed, educated and housing can lead to people not seeing they are being abused through neglect (Fuyumi and Natuso).

“It wasn’t all bad. The abuse, physical and emotional, was awful, but I still loved my dad and family and they still loved me as sick and weird as that sounds.” Goes hand in hand with “You loved your abuser”

This is very telling of young Toya just wanting to spend time with his father, who he loved, but Enji prioritizing his hero work. And the siblings all still loving their mother even though she abused them as well (she abused them because she was abused as well, but that doesn’t make the abuse go away), specifically Natuso was neglected by her and Shoto obviously physically injured.

“My abuse wasn’t physical. I thought for a long time that physical abuse was the only kind of abuse, and since I wasn’t being beaten, it couldn’t have been that bad. Other people had it worse“

This is pretty much Natuso and Fuyumi. They were completely neglected by their father, Natuso later by their mother as well and unlike their brothers they weren’t physically abused by Endevour either, so they don’t seem to realize that they were abused.

“There was no comparison to know that our ‘normal’ was extremely unhealthy and unsafe.”

Endevour had a maid taken care of the children at home and while seemed to have normal school, Japan is a country where things are kept very private , so home life is probably not very discussed even amongst children.

[apologizing]

So a common thing is that abusers do apologize but don’t change their behavior, which isn’t exactly what happen here obviously. Enji apologized and promised to do better, but while he does change and does better with his children, there is a way in which he didn’t change at all and that is the fact that it is about him. It isn’t about his children, it is about Enji, he decided to be a better father, he decided to pay up for his abuse and while I don’t think that he’s doing an awful job, he is clearly still not seeing that issue about himself. (see projection)

“It made you feel special to be “so close” to your abuser.”

This is just early on Toya, who wanted to spend time with his father, who was overtraining him, for his own sake.

“I was always told parents had a right to discipline their kids”

Clearly the way Endevour “disciplined” his children for not being strong enough quirk based was abuse but if you are constantly by said abuser told that it is your own fault (see projection) [LINK] you will most likely think that is is their right and it has to be your fault for being a failure, which is how Dabi views himself.

And most importantly:

“You couldn’t process it as a child.”

Shoto, Natuso and Fuyumi are all too involved into it and without proper therapeutic care to realize the abuse they suffered completely, especially Fuyumi and Natuso, as I pointed out don’t seem to see it, since they were “only” neglected. And Shoto’s abuse stopped when he was only 15, and he obviously didn’t have enough of a break from the plot to reflect on Enji’s treatment of him or get a therapist.

 All of that of course doesn’t negate your point that the lives of the civilians are at stake here and that they should be prioritized over a) legal procedures against Endevour b) change of custody for Shoto (since Endevour is currently not a direct threat to his health anymore) and building a new society (not possible right now anyways).

And of course we haven’t seen any Todoroki since 306 (current stand 309), so we don’t know what is off-screen happening and again I only wanted to answer your question of: “Though for real, for real, what do y'all want at this point? What part of Endeavor's life isn't a punishment right now?” And analyze the issue people have with Endevour right now, not in any way counter your point about priorities. Hence my doctor allegory (and why I didn’t bring Hakws/Twice in this discussion) about more pressing things at the moment.

I want to add one thing though: it does seem a bit off that Hawks and Endevour who were clearly longer hospitalized were not shown for any proceedings after the Dabi video which shows Hawks killing Twice by stabbing him into the back and Dabi mentioning his abuse. While the hero commission is not functioning there should be other structures taking care of this. But this might be just the first time this issue came up and due to the lasting chaos there were no other structures in charge, which again would be an overlaying societal issue.

If I did not convey my stance properly I am sorry, I did in no way mean to counter your argument of “Endeavor and every other hero is needed to fix the horrors your faves have done to the country.” In the sense that it wasn’t at core right, even if I would phrase things differently than how you put it.

I think I told you enough times by now, that I support your argument of: save Japan first (and with that I mean civilian lives, not social structures that are obviously faulty), take care of other things later. I only wanted to clarify the issue people still have with Endevour, nothing more.

Villain Stans: "Why won't the heroes make Endeavor PAY FOR WHAT HE'S DONE AND STOP HELPING HIM????"

Well maybe if the people you stan would stop murdering people and destroying Japan they could turn their attention to that, but right now, Endeavor and every other hero is needed to fix the horrors your faves have done to the country. ... Though for real, for real, what do y'all want at this point? What part of Endeavor's life isn't a punishment right now? Do you just want the heroes to say "Yeah! You're right, Dabi!" And start tearing shit up too? Like???

Hawks to Endevour: I want you to be my dad! Toya, Natsuo & Shoto: No you don’t!

I think in general with the fact that this is shonen and the theme is heroism that the stones for character growth towards making up for your mistakes in some way are definitly given for almost everyone.

On the other hand there are characters that don’t necessarily need redemptions from a storytelling point because they haven’t done anything “evil enough” to the protagonists or their friends (Spinner and Compress would fall into that category).

Or those who are content with who they are and don’t have issues with the way they are, like Muscular or AFO. That is not a story place for redemption and more how can we deal with someone like this in a heroic way. (And it is not locking them up the way they were locked up because it obviously wasn’t a good long term solution.)

But Endevour is definitely on the other end of that spectrum of someone with a (formerly) good reputation that needs to make up for his mistakes. So I am expecting more growth there from a storytelling perspective considering he already started his way there and the fact that he is a pov character.

Your Black Panther reference is pretty much exactly how I’d put it in terms of how the story will progress.

I think Yokumiru Mera is a very good early on the hero’s side of the flawed system, we get very hit into the fact with the societal issues from the villain povs but the hero’s side are more subtle, just like the kids would see them.

The framing from HK is very much like that for all issues. Asui tells the viewers early on that mutant type quirks with less human features are something that make your life harder, but Asui has a cool quirk that can make up for it. Spinner on the other hand hits us in the face with there are legit mutant KKK and they want to kill me, mutant is called a slur and I have a weak af quirk that won’t make me seen as “useful” by society.  

Which reminds me heavily towards ableism in the real world. Disabled people who are conveniently attractive get praised for their bravery of existing and showing their face as a model or actor but society itself is still bothered by disabled people who meet different needs than the most common one, which any disabled person knows means that getting the help you need to live your life is hard in most places, impossible in some.

And bnha has this with quirks: those who look different can “make up for it” with a cool quirk like Asui or Gang Orca, but if you have a strong mutant quirk appearance on top of a weak quirk you’ll get bullied, have a worse chance at jobs or even get attacked like the tall lady in the recent chapters.

Which also blends in with your part about people slipping through the cracks (which was very nice btw), if so many people can slip through the cracks why are only a certain part of them seen as human?

I have nothing to add about you All Might –Endevour foil it’s perfect the way it is.

And my stupid brain decided to focus on the writing of women in bnha instead (and because it is the one of the big issue I have in general with the manga, where I can’t say I have to wait until the end to truly make a statement).

I generally don’t think that any character in bnha is “unproblematic pure” they all have their issues or are underdeveloped / side characters with not enough arks to make an actual statement about them.

But because this is shonen we have way more male characters. And HK is someone who can actually make really great characters, gender aside so I don’t see any reason why the ratio from female/male characters is so low. I mean it’s not Dragonball low, but even Naruto had at least a 3-1 ration, bnha has less than 1-5 and that is low.

The female characters we do have are all very different in the way they are and I don’t think any reader would complain if there were more female characters, especially considering that the costumes being so sexy is literally discussed in universe so there is a “good” excuse why they are walking around like this. Uraraka literally said that her own design wasn’t so sexy but the costume makers made it tighter.

I like that is was addressed in general that hero costumes need functionality and Midnight and Creati both wanted to show more skin for practical reasons that would help in a fight but weren’t allowed to.

On the other hand Uraraka who should have a costume that would allow her to land safely something cushioning all around her would make way more sense instead of skin tight stuff.

So obviously the costume designers of this world have the sex sells in mind even with children and while I don’t think it will be addressed as an issue itself that this is a very strong female problem (no one tells Fat Gum to keep slim because his quirk would be useless that way, but he’d look more conveniently attractive I do think it is just going to be part of a dismantlement of hero society that this will go away because a true hero is more about practicality than looks.

So I really see no reason why we have so little women, but at least they are all really cool and different from one another.

Sadly the villains only have Magne, Toga, La Brava, Lady Nagant and Curious and two of them are already dead.  You’d think in a society like this more women would join the “evil side”.

So when discussing the women of bnha they are held to higher expectations because we have way less.

And I think that really shows with Rei and how a part of the fandom is pushing more and more blame on her than Enji. Enji himself has an issue with shifting the blame about Toya on others, mostly Toya himself and Rei, that is a flaw he has to overcome.

But parts of the fandom did it too. Do I think Rei was completely innocent? No. Do I think that the fact that she was also abused and clearly had bad mental health into consideration? Absolutely! Without Endevour the situation would not exist, without him buying his wife and having children because he had goals to achieve there would be no Dabi. So Endevour is responsible for most of this, but Rei did some parenting mistakes too that didn’t help the situation.

I don’t think she is presented as an enabler in the manga though. Through Endevour’s perspective the first thing in the flashbacks about her are literally that she only married him for the sake of her family. And that is the first moment of the fandom taking over and saying Rei is equality/more to blame than Enji for doing so. There are people who say that she agreed to this, so she is completely responsible for what happens afterwards. I say 4 things about it:

1. Arranged marriages are still common in Japan today and you’d want someone wealthy, especially if you come from a poor family like Rei does. So you have to take the culture this plays into consideration when discussing this.

2. If Enji didn’t seek a wife this arrangement would have never happened in the first place.

3. If the options are between live in poverty with a family who resents you for saying no and marrying a man for money then there is a systematic fault because you need to make that decision and it isn’t really an option to begin with. Toya himself says that Rei had no choice at the age of 13.

4. Enji had a really good reputation, he was the number 2 hero, he was seen as a great guy and we know from the flashbacks that his abuse started later. She couldn’t have possibly known how Endevour would treat her children because earlier he treated her in a normal way for an arranged marriage.

And after that we get the flashbacks.

And I using the flashback chapter for this because they are objective, they don’t have a character pov. Any character flashback is always personal, they have subjective memories that taint the objectiveness of the reader and HK does that all the time, which is interesting writing and very humanizing but it leads to discussions amongst fans.

And anything SAID by the Todoroki children and Rei is extremely based on actual abuse victim behavior, which I actually did quiet some research on and I have to say it is very realistic for them to behave the way they do in the manga.

Which also includes Natuso, Shoto and Fuyumi not realizing they were being abused themselves, Fuyumi and Rei trying to solve the issues by brushing them off because they don’t have the healthy mindset to find other means and shifting blame around for something they did while they weren’t healthy enough to do better.

Rei went to talk to Enji, telling him he’s being cruel and that Enji’s treatment is too much. After which Endevour says “If we want him to give it up, then we have no choice” the framing of those panels show Rei terrified and Enji completely in the dark and we know from earlier chapters that he forced himself onto her.

So saying she had part of “making” the children is blaming her getting raped by her husband on the fandoms part.

At the end of chapter 301 (the first flashback chapter) she takes some of the blame by saying Enji wasn’t the only one that looked away. But from the chapters we also know that Toya would have needed attention from his father which Rei told Enji and she told him that he was running away from his problems.

The one person in the household that has issues with women is Toya who’s saying they are useless, which on one hand is something a lot of boys that age say and on the other hand comes from the upbringing Fuyumi has. We know Rei tried to talk to Enji, but Toya doesn’t and Fuyumi is a child that actually had the “most normal” up brining in the house because Enji was busying using Toya for his goals and Rei raised them both together, so little Fuyumi isn’t capable of understanding Toya.

The issues Toya has with his mother we see when she tries to do something about Toya, who only wants his father’s attention back, because that’s what he feels like his father’s love is.

She suggests other things and is trying her best given the circumstances. Are they good? No. Are they probably the only thing she’s capable of? Most likely. Endevour wouldn’t have gotten a therapist for Toya and we know Enji beat her when she didn’t do what he wanted her to do. But what he wanted her to do wasn’t something she was capable of doing.

The panel where she asks Toya if he even wants to be a hero always hits me, just because no one ever asked Toya what he wanted. Dabi has no known want but to end Endevour and the hero society because he was raised as a tool and not a child until Endevour found a more useful tool. And by then it was too late for Rei’s words be of any help when she tells him to find other ways. Just like Rei isn’t capable of helping Toya with those words, Toya isn’t capable of finding a different way on his own anymore.

Toya himself says that Rei had no choice for her future (marriage, children) when she suggests Toya to make a choice for his future (anything other than his father’s original plans) and simultaneously blames her for his state. And while I do stand by my original argument that Rei couldn’t have possibly known that Endevour would abuse her and her children or the fact that she didn’t have any better options other than marrying him I can understand Toya’s reaction. She is responsible for his existence by repeating the cycle of she was forced to do something, so then her son was forced to do something.

And Rei herself says that she and Enji both say that they did not know what to say to him. But the thing is Endevour didn’t even try or give the option for someone else that wasn’t Toya’s parents to talk to the child and take care of his problems, like a psychologist might have done. And Endevour was the one in charge of the household.

The point where Rei stopped trying was after Toya’s death, when her mental health was got so bad after years of abuse that ended with her mental breakdown of the attack on Shoto.  And I can’t call that enabling, because she wasn’t in a position to enable things anymore. She wasn’t healthy enough for that after trying and getting abused for it.

(What I still heavily dislike about those chapter is just the fact that Rei is saying that it is now all of their responsibility meaning the kids as well, as if they had any part and Natuso even blames himself and not one of his parents tells him that it’s absolutely not on him.)

So I can’t see her being framed as an enabler in the manga, but very much in the fandom. Same for Fuyumi who was an abused child and as all Todoroki siblings is still very much affected by the long term consequences of child abuse and is just trying to find a way to deal with the situation.

[Could you give me a chapter reference of Inko on this, because I’d need to re-read that in order to properly make an analysis other than teenagers say stuff like this to their parents all the time when they are angry, because they don’t have enough knowledge about situations like this yet. Because in general Inko is framed very much like a really great mother.]

I do enjoy the LoV chapters more as well and I have little hopes of survival about my favorite character Spinner ever since the “we connected over games” notion.

Because he is the least villainous out of the LoV with no criminal history prior and no innocent deaths on him I do have a suspicion of him dying for Tomura in a very heroic fashion like Twice did for his friends. The guy was fed up with society to the point he spend more of his time at home playing video games , got inspired to change the system, joined the league, became close to them and found someone to fight for. That isn’t a person that can redeem himself, because that isn’t someone who has to redeem himself. If Tomura would change his plans and explain the reasons to the Lov aside from Dabi they’d most likely still follow him, especially Spinner.

And yeah, they deserve the world. I mean we can’t get Compress being the grandson of one of the big 3 and then never see him again after his first pov chapter, so I assume we are going to still see more of him.

I headcanon that Spinner can actually be really great as a leader if he just got a good “main quest”, so if AFO completely takes over Tomura it would be like a questlog of: Quest: save Shigaraki.

Parts of the quest: Get more people to help me. Find Toga. Get Compress out of Prison. Maybe get the PLF too. Find a way to save Shigaraki. [etc.]

And I’d love to get the gang back together that way, now that Tomura is in a comatose state right now, although I doubt Spinner would leave him with Dabi and Sceptic in charge.

I can see Spinner and Compress dying through saving their friends, Compress already nearly did. And I can see AFO killing Spinner to get a stronger grip on Tomura’s hatred (which would probably backfire) but I don’t want them to die.

I don’t really want anyone to die aside from AFO, who I wish to get decayed into ash by Tomura for grooming him.

And it would be really unsatisfying to read Dabi die, because he doesn’t care if he dies as long as he takes his father down with him. And if is still at that point by the end of the series that would mean that Shoto failed saving his brother and that would go completely against the entire message of bnha.

Anybody who has acess to raw scans and knowledge about Japanese to be of any help, because the translations of bnha 311 are saying very different things:

This is the first translation, where I want to point out the line about never stopping to smile and something missing in his soul are directed at AFO.

And Endevour clearly asks a question, which in japanese is indicated through a parcel, so if something is a question it should be obvious to see.

But then the other translation sais that the one with extra hatred is Shigaraki , same with the person that doesn’t stop laughing/smiling.

Which would make perfect sense to talk about Tomura because he is always smiling/ laughing, which can’t be said for AFO, the guy barely shows what is left of his face and none of them have any knowledge about AFO always laughing/smiling.

It would on the other hand make sense for AFO to have no hatred, but rather emptiness inside of him, but then the translation to laughing seems off. Wouldn’t it be rather something along the lines of laughing on the inside, thinking he is going to win no matter what (I lack the english word for what I mean right now.).

And Endevour isn’t asking a question here too, he is making a statement.

I can get behind differences like laughing/smiling or missing his soul/lack of heart, but there is a huge difference who they are talking about and Endevours statement/question about the person’s sould/heart.