Osiris Destiny - Tumblr Posts
Found a small draft in my notes
one of my followers on twitter gave me the most incredible image of Osiris so naturally i had to redraw it
what is his PROBLEM
GHOST: There's the Conceptual Mind. And it's failed creation, or it's God. Huh, I never really thought about that before. What kind of beings create their own god? And it's not even an original
OSIRIS: Happens more than you think. Something to ponder AFTER the memory core's safely in hand.
GHOST: Right. Focus up Guardian!
i think she would have enjoyed exploring the universe. i ALSO think she’d have had some absolutely legendary snark to throw at the witness in the pale heart.
"You feel real to me"
(For my Dragon Age fans, this composition is inspired by Blackwall's romance card :) )
Zavala is... an interesting character, to say the least...
He’d have to be an Arc Titan because of the weird rule-of-three thing the Vanguard does, right? Awoken Arc Titan, Human Void Warlock, Exo Solar Hunter.
Now here’s where things get even more interesting:
In the EDZ bunker mission, he uses the Void Titan banner shield ability thingy
In the vanilla campaign, he repeatedly uses Void Titan Bubbles when the tower falls
BUT:
In the Season of Worth trailer, he uses an Arc Striker ability against the Cabal on the Almighty
Zav also used Arc abilities in his story trailer
There are “holograms” of Zav using a Solar hammer in the Dark Forest of D2’s Red War campaign
Now, I’m a Solar Gunslinger. I’ve never played a Titan before, so I’m not entirely familiar with their abilities, but this is intriguing from a story standpoint.
Sure, Ikora is a fucking badass and has used both Voidwalker and Stormcaller abilities, and Cayde did stuff from all 3 Solar trees in that Last Stand cutscene, but they’re both specialists in their elements and are rarely shown multiclassing.
Saint is a Void Titan- That’s all but confirmed. However, as someone kindly pointed out in the notes, he has used Arc abilities before in the comics.
Now that I think about it, we’ve only seen a few Vanguard members, current or otherwise, not using abilities other than those of their element.
Idk about Andal or Tallulah, but as far as I know, Andal was a Solar Hunter... and Tallulah gives me Solar vibes from the entry I’ve read (The Bombardiers exotic leggies for Hunters)
In Conclusion? I’m wrong. A lot. And while the Vanguard may have the rule of three going on, their members aren’t all restricting themselves to their main element, which is awesome.
Update 2:
Thank y’all in the notes for informing me about Ikora and Zav in the forest and trailers! Sorry that I didn’t know about those...
Updated about Saint using Arc abilities
I’ve revised the post accordingly
Update 3:
Osiris uses all three Warlock Supers in the Immolant pages (which *I think* came out a few months after this original post). Removed note about him only using Solar.
Caliban-8 also mainly used Solar. Updated bc Caliban’s Hand exotic
Why isn't anyone talking about these hanging in Zavala's office?
According to Destiny lore he's not a Solar Titan and he's hated by the Sunbreakers, so why does he even have these in his office? The shield makes sense since he is a Void Titan but these two don't make sense.
bungie
BUNGIE
BUNGIE
I THOUGHT WE AGREED TO LEAVE THE OLD GAY MEN ALONE
Destiny 2 Act 1: Echoes Spoilers!!!
god I am living with all this Saint and Osiris content they are MARRIEDD!!!!!
“I have found the rarest treasure: a pragmatic Warlock.” - Saint-14
[Quote from the ‘Blood Maturity’ bond]
This was meant to be an excuse for me to practice colour. It also became an excuse for me to draw a dumb o14 mini-comic
ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵃᵇˢᵒˡᵘᵗᵉˡʸ ⁿᵒ ᶜˡᵘᵉ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᴵ ᵃᵐ ᵈᵒᶦⁿᵍ
Have this scrapped reaction of Saint as a random treat tho
You also have to take in everything that Osiris has gone through as well, losing almost all of the Iron Lords, losing Saint, almost became wrathborn, lost Sagira and his light bc of it and then got possessed by Savathun, and as far as we know (or I know, i could full well be missing some lore), Osiris has never fully processed any of it and just shoved down all his grief.
Every day I fight battles for Osiris's honor. Every single time he's a relevant character being his Messy and Brash self people take it personally. Every time I think it'll be different.
Anyways
I really liked Osiris's characterization in Lightfall, it felt more true to how he is as a character than he was in Seraph. However I'm already seeing people being Weird about him. On one hand, I understand he isn't for everyone, not everyone has to like him as he's a very difficult man (which is exactly why I like him.) However there's a difference between just... Disliking a character and egregiously misreading and misinterpreting one.
Two major points I've seen talked about already, ad infinitum, that I feel I have to give you a better perspective of: the urgency of which he acts, and his unhealthy training techniques. (And to a lesser point the claim that he's been over exaggerated which spoilers: he's always been like this.)
His urgency
(or as so many of you claim, that he's yelling at us the entire time.)
I feel like someone having to walk a baby through how to use building blocks it's THIS dire.
THE THEME OF LIGHTFALL IS GRIEF. It's grief and finding a way to accept that grief, not push it down or block it, not fight it every step of the way, but rather let it flow through you and allow it.
Osiris's arc throughout Lightfall is grappling with this: he's not had the TIME to process his grief, both over Sagira and over the loss of his Light. He feels inadequate because there's never been a time where he hasn't been able to act himself.
Osiris outright states in the campaign that he always used his grief as something to push him forward, as a means to fix it, like he did with Saint. But he can't do that now and it frustrates him. He pushes us because it's a reflection of himself, he's beyond frustrated with the fact that he can't do this himself, that he has to rely upon others when he's been self reliant for hundreds of years.
Not only that but he's ALWAYS been a very no-nonsense kind of guy, it used to be that he had Sagira to balance out his social awkwardness, but since she isn't here to often speak For him he's been struggling to interact with others. Sagira acted as a median, now that she's gone he's had to go it alone, you can't blame him for his bluntness.
Now... the yelling scene... I don't know why but everyone seems to be taking this one really really personally despite that fact it's painstakingly clear he's yelling because he's angry with HIMSELF. You're all so focused on the fact he yelled — which, I feel I need to remind you he's in grief and he's going through a very hard change, he's always been calm so seeing him like this really puts into perspective how much he's hurting. No one is talking about his apology afterwards.
He recognizes that he lashed out incorrectly, (and imo he's ALLOWED to after all he's gone through. god forbid grief be expressed in any capacity other than quiet depression.) And then he apologizes. Because that's what he does. He recognizes a misstep and apologizes. This is how he's always been.
Training
And when he's training us, telling us to push beyond our limits, this is a reflection of himself again. This is how he trained. We know this because this is how the Crucible became what it is now.
But I will also take good ideas where I can get them. And Osiris's belief that Guardian minds and bodies can be sharpened as one sharpens a sword is a damn good idea. You've seen the results in the Crucible. Do I really have to say any more?
The Conqueror 2
Osiris has always pushed himself (and in part I think Felwinter added to this) so it only makes sense he'd try to push us in the same manner. The entire point of this is to show it's wrong and Osiris eventually recognizes it as wrong! His perspective was incorrect! And it changes! Because that's how stories work!
Grief
Grief is not always shown with crying messes, it's not always quiet depression, it can manifest by being incredibly volatile and angry and that's how Osiris handles his grief when he can't just power himself through it anymore.
His arc is coming to terms with the fact he can't just wrestle his grief into submission. His arc is that he doesn't have to deal with his grief alone. His arc is that his mortality and inability to act himself isn't a personal failure. His arc is that he lets it flow rather than try to push it down. Like strand, Osiris's grief is a river and he's been trying to build a dam for the past several months.
Osiris is a nuanced character. He has flaws and he's never hid them. If you played the entire campaign with the audio off and subtitles off and you can't grasp the simple fact Osiris is experiencing incredible amounts of grief and trauma that's on you, my friend.
bungie
BUNGIE
BUNGIE
I THOUGHT WE AGREED TO LEAVE THE OLD GAY MEN ALONE
I just finished part III of Act 1 for echoes and i'll say this:
I felt physically ill through the entire mission, my heart is hurting as well
my point still stands, BUNGIE STOP FUCKING OVER THE OLD GAY COUPLE ITS PRIDE MONTH MAN