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I'M NOT OKAY
#I'm back on my bullshit :3
A beauty pageant went so badly that everyone died
"describe ur favorite Greek Tragedy in the worst way possible"... I'll start:
Seven dudes die trying to conquer their own city.
I'M NOT OKAY
Family lunch over ( +10 people), and ask my cousin if she knew something about, cough, cough, Odyssey, cough, cough Illiad.
And she said that she was hooked for 4 months to a musical in progress EPIC; the conversation went like this
Me: hey, In collegue I fell down a rabbit hole of Greek mytho, and do you know by chance something about the Odyssey?? Cousin: Same, I´m watching a musical right now and I´m obssesed Me: which one? Cousin: Epic i think, it´s done by a Jorge I think Me: ehh, wait, WHAT? EPIC???!!!!!!!!!! Cousin: yeah.. why? Me: Because is the one I´m also obssesed. The two: HOLY MOLY!, What´s your favourite song, character.....?
Then I said to my mom if she knew something and she said that she read The ODYSSEY and went to GREECE in her 30´s with her friends to see ancient ruins of the EPIC CYCLE.
Asked the same to all my cousins, uncles and aunts, with different degrees of knowledge they talked about Homer´s works and how much they liked it.
I don´t have words; my family is a family of WINIONS, MY F FAMILY IS A WINION GROUP! I´M DEAD, ROASTED, CREMATED.
First grandma last night and today this, my god why I didn´t asked before, this is perfect T T
Sorry but my Odyssey copy is in spanish
V Chant
"Said so the powerfull Argophontes (Hermes), he rosed, and the venerable nymph (Calypso) after hearing Zeus's orders went where the magnificent Odysseus was.
She found him in the shore, with never ending tears that never dried as his sweet life was being consumed by grief, longing for the Returning (Nostoi), as the nymph wasn't kind to him. Although at night he slept with her in the concave cave, with whom (Calypso) she longed; the day was spent alone, crying and sitting at the shore, his heart ravaged in tears, screams and pains, comtemplating the indominable sea with bitter cries."
watching epic fans find out odysseus is a pos is actually hilarious
like “omg nooo hes so loyal thooooo hed never do that to penelope” girly thats the source material he straight up canonically did that
Rip homer you would've loved AO3
PLEASE MY HURT; I´M SO HAPPY!!!!!
my emotional support couple
So lately I’ve been seeing a lot of posts asking people to stop trying to make Odysseus look nice in their works cuz he’s a “messed-up person in the mythology”. Your opinion is valid however I have but one thing to point out:
You want to know who started all this? Who started to “make Odysseus look nice” in the first place?
It’s Homer. It’s nobody else but Homer himself.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would try to murder people out of his own interests. He’d murder Palamedes without remorse (and we’d be cheering over this but it’s a murder after all), he’d attempt to murder Diomedes just to get the Palladium himself, he’d volunteer to kill Astyanax…meanwhile you wouldn’t find any mention of either Palamedes or Nauplius in Homer’s poems, neither did he mention anything abt the Palladium heist (and Diomedes necessity did not happen until Conon’s version), the death of Astyanax, the distribution of war prizes, etc. And all the details in the Odyssey seemed to deny the existence of Nauplius’s vengeance at all, so Odysseus would not take any of the blame.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be depicted as “cruel, treacherous”, meanwhile in book 10 of the Iliad Odysseus was not mentioned to have killed anyone during the marauding, neither did he promise Dolan anything at all. The negative interpretations are denied by these details subtly put by Homer.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be widely known as a “coward” for only shooting arrows from afar. But Homer gave him a spear and had him absolutely slaying in both the Iliad and the Odyssey. That part of Ajax’s speech was invalid already.
Most importantly—a non-Homeric Odysseus would be having kids everywhere else, and the loyalty to his own wife as seen in the Odyssey is no where to be found. Meanwhile his lineage was a single-son line made by Zeus in the Odyssey, and his love for Penelope was one of his main drives, especially seen in book 5 of the Odyssey. He loved his family as a loving parent—something you don’t get to see in most of the non-Homeric writings—for most of the time they followed a different tradition indeed, in which Odysseus wasn’t half as nice as in the Odyssey.
TL;DR: in case you haven’t noticed, the characterization of the Homeric Odysseus was quite different from a non-Homeric version of Odysseus. It’s not that Homer didn’t know of the existence of other versions—he knew them too well, which is why in his version of the story, you don’t get to see any mention of them.