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Finished book 12 of the Iliad, and the best part was definitely when Zeus sent the Trojans an omen telling them that they should retreat, and when Poulydamas points this out, Hector just tears him a new one. He literally says he doesn't give a flying fuck about these birds and if Poulydamas leaves the fight or convinces anyone else to he will stab him. That was personal. Like Hector must've had some grudge against Poulydamas previously because wtf.
....i know. I know.
Patrochilles: -exists-
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A beauty pageant went so badly that everyone died
"describe ur favorite Greek Tragedy in the worst way possible"... I'll start:
Seven dudes die trying to conquer their own city.
There are correct answers
1. Kill Peris as a baby
2.Peris had to kill his beloved bull as his father told him too
3.If he had listened to his wife Oenone
4.If he lives (which is a shame) give the apple to Hera
the whole trojan war could have been avoided if paris just. ate the apple in one comically large bite. athena, hera, and aphrodite would have been stunned into silence.
forever thinking about how achilles’ name means “grief of the people.”
in case anyone else is as bad at geography (especially ancient geography) like i am, wikimedia has an awesome map showing where all the notable characters in the trojan war hail from
this is just a section, click through for the much bigger map. (man, sarpedon and pyraechmes travelled FAR)
It's been a while since I've read the Iliad and I forgot a lot of things from it, so here's one thing that I've been wondering for a while.
We know that the cause of the Trojan War was the kidnapping of Helen by Paris, right? And we also know that the reason why he took her in the first place is because Aphrodite promised her to him if he would give her the Apple of Discord during his Judgement, isn't it? But the thing is: Eris threw that apple during the wedding of Thetis and Peleus, who are the parents of Achilles. And when the Trojan War started, Achilles was already a teenager/young adult.
Are you going to tell me that Hera, Aphrodite and Athena were arguing about Who is the fairest of them all? for over ten years, until Zeus got tired of this discussion and declared that Paris can do the shit in his place?
Iliad, book XXIV.
What if the gods had never sent Hermes to Priam to accompany him to the Achaean camp? What if he never went there in the end?
What if it was Andromache, who, alone, sneaked out of Troy and into the Myrdmidon camp to find a way to bring her husband's body home?
This is a class assignment that I chose to do on the Iliad because I am still obsessed. The speech bubbles might look a bit weird because I originally did this whole comic in French and then translated it. Hope you guys like it because I cried a lot internally writing this.
We need to stard slut shaming Priam
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TW: mentions of rape and murder
School project about Cassandra, Princess of Troy, sister of Hector and Paris. She was a priestess of Apollo and got his favor. He gave her the gift of prophecy, but when she rejected his advances he cursed her so that nobody would believe her. She predicted how Helen entering the city would bring ruin (of course, not Helen’s fault but still) and how the Trojan Horse brought doom. Nobody believed her and thought she was insane. During the sack of Troy, she fled to the temple of Athena, where she was found, attacked, and raped by Little Ajax. After that she was brought to Agamemnon and made an enslaved concubine to the king, until she was murdered by Clytemnestra, a death she foresaw.
saw a lot of Trojan war stuff on my dash, so thought I would post this! Song is Icarus by the Crane Wives
Characters in order of appearance: Cassandra, Apollo, Paris, Helen, Hector, Achilles, Statue of Athena, King Priam, The Greek army, Little Ajax, King Agamemnon, Apollo statue, Aegisthus, Clytemnestra, Ghost of King Priam, Ghost of Queen Hecuba, Ghost of Hector, holding his son Astyanax, and the ghost of Paris
Why did Apollo favor the trojans in the Illiad?
So, dear Anon, I've been thinking about how to answer this question since I got it a couple days ago and I think I kind of want to make something clear before I get into it.
The Iliad by itself as a poem only covers some of the events that occur in the final year of a long protracted conflict that had been brewing for at least two decades and was an active war for ten. Within the space of the Iliad itself, the motivations and affairs of the major players are often referenced but there are many, many parts of the story that are not there because they belong to a different story cycle that has been since lost or was never recorded with words. In the space of the Iliad Apollo's motivations are questioned a lot - his pride is questioned by Poseidon who thinks Apollo should be just as angry at the Trojans as he considering Apollo was treated equally as poorly by Laomedon while they worked together. His honour is questioned by Hera who chastises him for taking the Trojans' side when he'd proclaimed that Achilles would live a long life and prosper at Thetis and Peleus' wedding. His own sister calls him a coward for refusing to fight when Zeus gives permission for the gods to go wild on the battlefield. For all that there's this image of Apollo in the Iliad as some staunch and unwavering protector of the Trojans, believe it or not, I largely think of Apollo as neutral in the war.
Which, I suppose, comes back to the question - why did Apollo favour the Trojans? The truthful answer is that I don't know. The Iliad and all its connected stories isn't something I've done enough research on to have an answer or a reference to an answer off the top of my head. The reasoning I'm aware of is that Apollo was a Patron God of Troy and really a god doesn't need any reason besides that to protect his people but it's not like Apollo abandoned the Greeks either. Calchas is the biggest example of that I can point to - descended directly from a priest of Apollo and one who attributed his mantic power to the god, Calchas was pivotal in ensuring the Greeks even got to Troy in the first place.
From a personal perspective however, I think Apollo was more dedicated to the house of Priam than he was the city of Troy itself. Apollo's affection for that house and all its members ran deep - from his admiration of Hecuba and Hector to his love and attempted courtship of Cassandra to his blessings given to Helenus, Deiphobos, Cassandra, Troilus and even his partnership with Paris - Apollo loved the house of Priam. When you think about the times Apollo lashes out against the Greeks, it's generally because they've done some nonsense to earn his ire. The plague was caused by Agamemnon disrespecting his priest, his aid in the slaughter of Patroclus was because he didn't respect him, his minor grudge against Diomedes too was because he tried to test Apollo's mettle and well, the less said about Achilles the better. Apart from his obvious favouring of Hector in the skirmishes, Apollo doesn't really oppose the Greeks. He has a ton of reasons to by the time the Iliad rolls around, including avenging the death of two of his sons, but he remains mostly satisfied with conducting his father's business and overseeing the war from a somewhat professional perspective. To me, it's always been less about Apollo caring about the fate of Troy as a city itself and more about him just really wanting to protect the people in the city that he's come to love and respect.
Of course, I encourage you to take my words with a big tablespoon of salt - like I said, I don't really know enough about the facts in particular to give a solid, confident answer but I can give you my interpretation of it. Maybe consult someone like @littlesparklight for a more comprehensive and grounded response 🤔