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Do you think the "Lost Journal Pages" in The Book of Bill are real or forgeries by Bill?

Points for forgeries: There are probably too many inconsistencies in the books in terms of writing style, how Ford is drawn, and other details that don't line up chronologically (e.g. Bill being a secret Muse in J3, but Bill was mentioned more directly in these "lost pages").

Points for real: Throughout The Book of Bill it's often obvious when Bill lies, and thus the book would have showed us clearly if these pages are forgeries. One of the letters from Ford would have blatantly contradicted the information we get in the journal pages; or, Bill would have provided fake pages saying such outrageous things that we’d KNOW Ford couldn’t have possibly written them. We GF fans are probably too hung up on the details than Hirsch himself, who is focussed on creating new narrative for the book.

Page samples from The Book of Bill(left) and Journal 3(right)

Points for third option: A compromise between the two options. Maybe those pages were ripped out and burned before Ford tossed the Journals into the Bottomless Pit. And so Bill is recreating these burned pages for us to read through. As such, there is perhaps a touch of Bill's flair in these recreations, but the contents and the events portrayed are still real.

Points for the fourth option: It's better to just sit back and relax and not engage into the discourse. So what if some details don't line up? It's still new content for us to enjoy.

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President Harris has a nice ring to it.

Okay, so, today on deeply nerdy things I'm working on (and also looking for advice on; vote at the end of the post!)...

So I've been working on coloring Worm's page from the quarantine coloring book (this is what I have so far), and I decided that I needed to put a name on the side of the boat. Because this stream was the first thing I watched with Gerard and Worm, I decided that “Daydream Believer” would be a good name for the boat (fair warning, it’s a pretty violent game they’re playing in that stream, but to summarize, the part I’m referencing is from Gerard’s turn as the murderer when he starts playing Daydream Believer by the Monkees to creep out Worm and the other dude they’re playing with, which is the moment I linked to.)

But then I thought, this is an alien creature’s magical space-boat. I can’t just title it Daydream Believer in English. So I whipped out my D&D player’s handbook (5e) and went to the Elvish alphabet.

But then I thought, I can’t just write Daydream Believer in English with Elvish letters. I need to translate it into proper Elvish first. Which, of course, the only correct Elvish languages to use are Tolkien’s--Sindarin and Quenya. (In any case, I don’t believe that there is a complete D&D Elvish language.) 

So, I brought up a few Sindarin and Quenya online dictionaries and translators, and I came up with a few different translations for “Daydream Believer”, and I wrote them out and transcribed my favorites to try and see which ones looked best in the D&D Elvish alphabet (I know Tengwar is technically the correct Tolkien-based Elvish script to be writing in, but I was already rolling with the D&D Elvish transcriptions, and I think I like the look of them for an alien space boat better, so I stuck with the D&D Elvish). But now I’m kind of stuck between three, and I thought, why not ask tumblr?

The two on the left with the blue highlights are Sindarin translations, and the one on the right with the green highlight is Quenya; I know there are differences in use between the two languages but I figured there’s no particular reason an alien couldn’t speak either of them. The first of the two Sindarin translations is “celain ely thenid pen”. ‘Celain’ means daylight, ‘ely’ means dream, and since I couldn’t find the word ‘believe’ in Sindarin anywhere I looked, I used ‘thenid’ which means ‘faithful’ and ‘pen’ as a pronoun meaning ‘one’. So, the first translation is really “daylightdream faithfulone”, which is fairly close. But I chose that translation mostly for aesthetics, and I worried I had strayed from the truest translation of the words, so I did another. 

The second Sindarin translation I did was “eraid ely esteliad pen”. ‘Eraid’ is just ‘day’ instead of ‘daylight’, and ‘esteliad’ is ‘trusting’, which seemed closer to the meaning of a daydream believer as one who is trusting in their daydreams rather than one who is faithful to their daydreams, although that could lead to a whole debate on the meaning of the original song, which--let’s be honest I’m way overthinking this already. I’m just trying to find pretty letters to write on the side of this boat, lol :) But nerdy linguistic overanalysis for a random obscure reference that pretty much no one is going to get is what I’m here for, haha. 

So, the third and final of my top three translations is the Quenya one, “árë maur savindo”. Quenya actually seemed to translate the phrase more easily, if only because there’s a word for “believer”. ‘Árë’ is day, ‘maur’ is dream or vision (which, I like the idea that the daydream believer’s daydreams are visions of a sort--oh no I’m analyzing the song again, I said I wouldn’t do that, I’ll stop, haha. I actually have thought about the meaning of the song quite a lot), and ‘savindo’ is believer. The Quenya translator that gave me ‘savindo’ warned that it was fan-created, but ‘sav-’ is in fact the Quenya verb for believe, and there was a whole section in the Quenya-English dictionary I looked at for “one who ___” verbs and they all ended in ‘indo’, so I think it’s a correctly derived translation. 

Tl;dr--those are the three best translations I came up with, and I highlighted where I wrote each of them out in Elvish in the image above. So, now I’m asking you to vote: which Elvish translation of Daydream Believer should I write on the boat on my coloring page? “Celain ely thenid pen”, “eraid ely esteliad pen”, or “árë maur savindo”? Vote in the replies or reblog with your vote! :) 

Postscript: If anyone wants to see my full Elvish translation scribblings which led to this, here’s what my process in my sketchbook looked like:

(There was a reflection from an old art class in the top left so that’s what I roughly photoshopped out if you were wondering.)

It’s always fun to have an excuse to mess around with translations and practice writing things in Elvish script :) 

in the end, you all voted to be a jungkook fic ✨ it should be all yours very soon & the trailer will be posted still today 🤗 thanks for your collaboration, it’s more than appreciated ❤️

hi loves ✨ i’m currently working on a new fic, a veeery fluffy one and honestly i’m hesitating between jungkook, taehyung and yoongi to be the main character. i guess i need your help here 😭

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Vote Count (so far)

Once Upon a Time: 1 (Tavros is going to be Henry and you cant stop me)

Night Vale: 2 (if this one wins i am going to start imagining a Cecil-Carlos for Aradia and John, aka one is a scienctist and the other is a radio talk show host)

Steven Universe: 1 (i might draw a fusion of diopside and john, if john wants to give me an idea for john’s gemsona)

Portal: 1 (no more japanese speaking anons if this one wins, cause it is a pain in the arse to translate)

You can vote through replying or in the ask box! Voting stops when either one of the fandoms hits ten votes or when i hit 200 followers! Alrighty?