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I thinks it’s way more of a work in progress to get there for Deku, because he grew up with the system, was part of the system and his number 1 hero All Might did not have the personal issues of the system the way the current no 1-3 have (abuse children, kill their antagonists, try to suffocate people etc.)

So right now he is in the stage where he sees that no empathy for.villains isn’t the right way to go, so he’s starting to get behind that and learing that villains are humans too and that they have motives.

And I think that could lead to him discovering the issues of hero society and how the top 3 are wrong in what they are doing, but for him to do a complete 180 right now would be too early for a realistic character development.

Endevour is as you mentioned not the number 1 issue for Deku, because the information from Shoto is far less grave than the one from Dabi and he still didn’t get the full on backstory the readers got and only what Dabi said there and maybe the video (if Deku watched it). And to really get to the point of just believing everything the guy who attacked multiple of your friends and classmates, helped to abduct one and recently tried to kill your friend/ his little brother in front of you it would take more time.

And Shoto himself is too deep in to see himself as a victim, so that might play into what he told Deku and why Deku does believe in Endevour wanting to better himself.

We don’t know right now what he thinks of Hawks, but we also don’t know if he has seen the video of Twice murder. And they have no history together so he might just still see him as the number 2 hero.

That leaves Best Jeanist who he also had little interaction with, the most recent one where he helped them survive and I am not sure if Deku might have just thought that he’d only suffocate Spinner and Tomura long enough for them to pass out (ignoring long term physical damage right now) or if he was contious at that point.

But for none of them we know for certain that he saw them at their worst or heard them say things show this. We as the readers can see their issues, but Deku doesn’t neccessairy have the same.

Thinking about it, I really dig the fact that his want to be a hero has such a bad side for him (like most of the world) failing to see the issues the hero society has.

And that is something he will have to work through to get there with a ton of bad realisation of the fact that Stain’s stand on heros is not that wrong. The first interaction between them was through Ida, Deku’s friend and ended with Stain saving Deku, so there is a step stone to build on but everything he learned in UA after that contridicts this by showing time and again how society views heros, which lead to how Deku views heros.

Considering “saving people” is deeply linked to: if society wasn’t this flawed and bad we would not need to save so many people it is a matter of time for him to be confronted with it but this panel seems to show that he is not there yet and still has a lot to learn before he can save anyone. (Yes I am quoting ATLA, it worked too well with Aang breaking the wheel of just more death and all).

Also this is not even a actual translation yet and the full chapter isn’t out, so maybe there is some twist to it, we shall see.

Okay but really, this here? This seems like such a weird development for Izuku considering the new direction his character is headed.

And I’m mostly not even talking about Endeavor this time; because as troublesome as it is that heroes keep helping him instead of holding him accountable for any of the things he’s done, we’ve no reason to think he’d do anything that bad right now besides maybe not go along with Deku’s villain saving plan. Plus they have already worked together before so this isn’t surprising.

No; I’m talking about Deku, who is trying to reason with/save notorious villain Shigaraki and specifically not kill him, working with notorious villain killer Hawks, a man who in all possibility (and if he has his quirk back by then) would go for the kill against Shigaraki without hesitation.

(Or possibly worse, threaten Shigaraki’s life to surrender and go to jail for life & then immediately going for the kill when he refuses; thus allowing his fans to claim “see, he doesn’t want to be saved so he needs to die” as though not responding to threats against your life is equivalent to not wanting to better yourself.)

That’s just seems like supremely bad planning on his part, and really highlights to me how he still doesn’t really seem to think heroes and the society they represent can do any wrong. I guess in retrospect that major character flaw of his, the toxic hero worship, hasn’t really been addressed at all yet, has it?

I think scrubbing wasn’t mycintital take on the comission, more of a whenever we see - we delete thing, but after I re-read some chapters, you are right it is unlikely. But because it is a video of someone getting killed social media will most likely delete it right away anyways, so you could still find it, but not without searching and because of your mentioned naivete from Deku he’d believe Hawks words on it.

He was in the hospital for a while and a comatose state for a bit, which would have given the social medias time to take down most of that, which would have left sides that allow murder clips on going and I don’t think Deku would use those wihout rason.

And as you mentioned Deku has Hawks words on this and believes them, so he has no reason to look it up. And I thought of this Jeanist moment:

This is obviously about Toya/Dabi, but we can see the mindset of someone in the system and an adult, not a 16 year old, where a bit naivete is normal.

The way Jeanist obviously doesn’t get the connecting between Dabi saying he was horribly abused and Toya becoming Dabi a man who wants the hero society gone because heros get away with everything because he is so deep into the system it doesn’t even seem an option is a mindset after both living and working in the system.

Which i think is also Dekus sort of reaction of:” this can’t be it. Hawks had to have a good reason to kill Twice. He probably was that dangerous to be left no other option for Hawks. He probably tried his best, but then Dabi attacked him. Yada yada yada.”

Okay but really, this here? This seems like such a weird development for Izuku considering the new direction his character is headed.

And I’m mostly not even talking about Endeavor this time; because as troublesome as it is that heroes keep helping him instead of holding him accountable for any of the things he’s done, we’ve no reason to think he’d do anything that bad right now besides maybe not go along with Deku’s villain saving plan. Plus they have already worked together before so this isn’t surprising.

No; I’m talking about Deku, who is trying to reason with/save notorious villain Shigaraki and specifically not kill him, working with notorious villain killer Hawks, a man who in all possibility (and if he has his quirk back by then) would go for the kill against Shigaraki without hesitation.

(Or possibly worse, threaten Shigaraki’s life to surrender and go to jail for life & then immediately going for the kill when he refuses; thus allowing his fans to claim “see, he doesn’t want to be saved so he needs to die” as though not responding to threats against your life is equivalent to not wanting to better yourself.)

That’s just seems like supremely bad planning on his part, and really highlights to me how he still doesn’t really seem to think heroes and the society they represent can do any wrong. I guess in retrospect that major character flaw of his, the toxic hero worship, hasn’t really been addressed at all yet, has it?

I just remembered everybody being dissapointed with Best Jeanist being alive because it ment that Hawks didn’t sacrifice him and that made Hawks ark more boring.

Besides the fact that he just murdered Twice by literally backstabbing him, after claiming he wanted to help him and we can clearly see Hawks beeing deeply flawed if helping to him means: the way he wants to help and only the way he wants to help.

But also later when we see Hawks and Jeanist interact we see that Hawks wants to be like Twice, he wants to be such a good person like Twice was, which is deeply disturbing. He just killed the man he himself sais he aspires to be like.

Because he didn’t want to capture him, because Twice didn’t want Hawks screwed up version of help.

And Beast Jeanist is part of this whole scam to get behind the PLF and the Commisson would not have gained anything if Hawks actually killed him. The commisson might sacrifice people, but their current no 3 top hero? He’s too valuable for that and he was currently not in his best state anyways, so the solution to use him for the scam is actually very logical and it gives us a lot about his character.

Jeanist is willing to spend months in a coma for the commission, showing how deep he is in the system and how deeply flawed the lone fact that the commission and Hawks came up with this is. But he doesn’t even realize this.

You can see this on one side as a heroic act, of giving so much to make sure a dangerous organization is being monitored and lastly defeated but on the other end it is complelty horrifying that the no 2 pro hero suggests that someone should go through dangerous medical treatments to do this.

And Jeanist doesn’t even seem to see it that way because he is just too caught up in the system to come up with the fact that no one should ever ask you for something like this.

Just like they should not let a bunch of teenagers fighting a group of terrorists, which by the hero commission the PLF are. Just like Endevour should not get away for abusing his family. Just like Hawks should be accountable for Twice murder.

I think of all the big 3 Jeanist is the best example of someone who so far hasn’t actually commited any crime (I am not counting the suffocation right now, because he could have let loose, we just don’t know if he would have) and got away with it, but he still defends and supports those who do. He is so deep in the system he doesn’t even realize that he is part of the problem and he is a great example of:

“You are not outside the problem. You are not objective.“

“If you’re part of the system, you’re part of the problem.“