I Think Scrubbing Wasnt Mycintital Take On The Comission, More Of A Whenever We See - We Delete Thing,

I think scrubbing wasn’t mycintital take on the comission, more of a whenever we see - we delete thing, but after I re-read some chapters, you are right it is unlikely. But because it is a video of someone getting killed social media will most likely delete it right away anyways, so you could still find it, but not without searching and because of your mentioned naivete from Deku he’d believe Hawks words on it.

He was in the hospital for a while and a comatose state for a bit, which would have given the social medias time to take down most of that, which would have left sides that allow murder clips on going and I don’t think Deku would use those wihout rason.

And as you mentioned Deku has Hawks words on this and believes them, so he has no reason to look it up. And I thought of this Jeanist moment:

This is obviously about Toya/Dabi, but we can see the mindset of someone in the system and an adult, not a 16 year old, where a bit naivete is normal.

The way Jeanist obviously doesn’t get the connecting between Dabi saying he was horribly abused and Toya becoming Dabi a man who wants the hero society gone because heros get away with everything because he is so deep into the system it doesn’t even seem an option is a mindset after both living and working in the system.

Which i think is also Dekus sort of reaction of:” this can’t be it. Hawks had to have a good reason to kill Twice. He probably was that dangerous to be left no other option for Hawks. He probably tried his best, but then Dabi attacked him. Yada yada yada.”

Okay but really, this here? This seems like such a weird development for Izuku considering the new direction his character is headed.

And I’m mostly not even talking about Endeavor this time; because as troublesome as it is that heroes keep helping him instead of holding him accountable for any of the things he’s done, we’ve no reason to think he’d do anything that bad right now besides maybe not go along with Deku’s villain saving plan. Plus they have already worked together before so this isn’t surprising.

No; I’m talking about Deku, who is trying to reason with/save notorious villain Shigaraki and specifically not kill him, working with notorious villain killer Hawks, a man who in all possibility (and if he has his quirk back by then) would go for the kill against Shigaraki without hesitation.

(Or possibly worse, threaten Shigaraki’s life to surrender and go to jail for life & then immediately going for the kill when he refuses; thus allowing his fans to claim “see, he doesn’t want to be saved so he needs to die” as though not responding to threats against your life is equivalent to not wanting to better yourself.)

That’s just seems like supremely bad planning on his part, and really highlights to me how he still doesn’t really seem to think heroes and the society they represent can do any wrong. I guess in retrospect that major character flaw of his, the toxic hero worship, hasn’t really been addressed at all yet, has it?

I thinks it’s way more of a work in progress to get there for Deku, because he grew up with the system, was part of the system and his number 1 hero All Might did not have the personal issues of the system the way the current no 1-3 have (abuse children, kill their antagonists, try to suffocate people etc.)

So right now he is in the stage where he sees that no empathy for.villains isn’t the right way to go, so he’s starting to get behind that and learing that villains are humans too and that they have motives.

And I think that could lead to him discovering the issues of hero society and how the top 3 are wrong in what they are doing, but for him to do a complete 180 right now would be too early for a realistic character development.

Endevour is as you mentioned not the number 1 issue for Deku, because the information from Shoto is far less grave than the one from Dabi and he still didn’t get the full on backstory the readers got and only what Dabi said there and maybe the video (if Deku watched it). And to really get to the point of just believing everything the guy who attacked multiple of your friends and classmates, helped to abduct one and recently tried to kill your friend/ his little brother in front of you it would take more time.

And Shoto himself is too deep in to see himself as a victim, so that might play into what he told Deku and why Deku does believe in Endevour wanting to better himself.

We don’t know right now what he thinks of Hawks, but we also don’t know if he has seen the video of Twice murder. And they have no history together so he might just still see him as the number 2 hero.

That leaves Best Jeanist who he also had little interaction with, the most recent one where he helped them survive and I am not sure if Deku might have just thought that he’d only suffocate Spinner and Tomura long enough for them to pass out (ignoring long term physical damage right now) or if he was contious at that point.

But for none of them we know for certain that he saw them at their worst or heard them say things show this. We as the readers can see their issues, but Deku doesn’t neccessairy have the same.

Thinking about it, I really dig the fact that his want to be a hero has such a bad side for him (like most of the world) failing to see the issues the hero society has.

And that is something he will have to work through to get there with a ton of bad realisation of the fact that Stain’s stand on heros is not that wrong. The first interaction between them was through Ida, Deku’s friend and ended with Stain saving Deku, so there is a step stone to build on but everything he learned in UA after that contridicts this by showing time and again how society views heros, which lead to how Deku views heros.

Considering “saving people” is deeply linked to: if society wasn’t this flawed and bad we would not need to save so many people it is a matter of time for him to be confronted with it but this panel seems to show that he is not there yet and still has a lot to learn before he can save anyone. (Yes I am quoting ATLA, it worked too well with Aang breaking the wheel of just more death and all).

Also this is not even a actual translation yet and the full chapter isn’t out, so maybe there is some twist to it, we shall see.

Okay but really, this here? This seems like such a weird development for Izuku considering the new direction his character is headed.

And I’m mostly not even talking about Endeavor this time; because as troublesome as it is that heroes keep helping him instead of holding him accountable for any of the things he’s done, we’ve no reason to think he’d do anything that bad right now besides maybe not go along with Deku’s villain saving plan. Plus they have already worked together before so this isn’t surprising.

No; I’m talking about Deku, who is trying to reason with/save notorious villain Shigaraki and specifically not kill him, working with notorious villain killer Hawks, a man who in all possibility (and if he has his quirk back by then) would go for the kill against Shigaraki without hesitation.

(Or possibly worse, threaten Shigaraki’s life to surrender and go to jail for life & then immediately going for the kill when he refuses; thus allowing his fans to claim “see, he doesn’t want to be saved so he needs to die” as though not responding to threats against your life is equivalent to not wanting to better yourself.)

That’s just seems like supremely bad planning on his part, and really highlights to me how he still doesn’t really seem to think heroes and the society they represent can do any wrong. I guess in retrospect that major character flaw of his, the toxic hero worship, hasn’t really been addressed at all yet, has it?

I propse a slightly different version:

Just because I do think that Endevour wouldn’t kill Dabi, but also wouldn’t be any use if it came to a physical fight with him, considering what happen last time. And Hawks would go for the kill and his favourite hero having a different opinion about that would be a blast to read. “What do you mean, you don’t want to kill your firstborn?”

Shoto in the background gets ready to take down Hawks.

I figured out how to uphold the shounen required fight scenes while also having natsuo non violently talk dabi down:

Shouto calls natsuo over to talk to Dabi. The two have a good heart to heart while Shouto beats the shit out of enji and hawks.

Like this? Yeah, I'd enjoy that

This spoke to me on such a level, I had to make a “watch me” compliation, and it’s actually really tragic.

It starts with Endevour telling the world to watch:

So we’ve got Endevour getting watched during the fight with Hood.

With Toya watching aswell.

But Endevour can’t see him.

But Dabi saw him the whole time:

Just like he never looked at him in the past:

And you get Endevour’s moment of remembering his own words:

And after Toya reveals himself everyone is watching him:

The whole world is watching Toya when he tells them about Endevour and what he did. And Endevours reaction?

Of course Toya reacts like this:

And the hard thing is Touya still just wants his father to watch him:

Because Toya might have died on that hill, but part of him really didn’t and is still that poor abused child that just wants his father to watch him

And Endevours still hasn’t learned his lesson that not everything is about him yet.

Okay but the fact that all Touya wanted was for Endeavour to come watch him train and see how much he improved and for his father to notice him and the fact that years later Endeavour finally gets everything he wanted without Touya and tells the public “just watch me”????

I get why Dabi changed Hawk’s plan and attacked Endeavour with High-End instead of some small-time hero.

This is a perfect example of framing done right in writing.

We are first shown that Shoto got abused, but not enough to see the full picture. For all we know at the beginning Endevour seemed to just have trained with Shoto too much, but because Shoto does want to become a hero it doesn’t show as horrible as the actuality of it is.

Then we see him noticing his bad behaviour and wanting to better himself. We see through Natsuo that there is more to it, than just overtraining Shoto, but again we don’t get a clear picture of what that means.

We see him after that in a light of a man who is trying to better himself and does want to be worthy of the title of Hero No. 1. And then we get the real hit of the Toya backstory. Dabi was heavily forshaddowed to be Toya and so was Endevour being more abusive than we already knew.

But we couldn’t fanthom how bad it would be, because we saw his victims starting to cope with it in a going forward and forgiving manner, especially Fuyumi. And since Shoto so far doesn’t even notice himself that he is a victim of abuse we didn’t see how bad Endevour really was.

And then we get this.

If we got this at the beginning we would have just straight up hated Endevour with no nuiance whatsoever, he wouldn’t be seen as a layered character and just as a horrible abuser (which he was to all of his family) and the focus would just be on this one family, instead of the overall picture that the No. 2 Hero can just get away with this.

Because of this excellent done framing we get to see that bigger picture while simultaniously getting important backstory for multiple characters and seeing Endevour just as what he is: an abuser who still hasn’t learned that he can’t seem to grasp that not everything is about him.

Watch me! They have been watching for years and it was a very different picture than what the public and the readers saw and now we finally get the full story.

bnha manga: *tries to make us feel sympathy for enji*

also bnha manga:

Also AFO is currently not using his own body to steal OFA back, he’s using Tomuras body that was enhances by Ojiko to specifically hold more quriks, so letting AFO take the qurik might result in Tomura dying and Deku losing the quirk, while AFO being still alive and fine at best and Deku losing the qurik and Tomura staying alive and being able to use it with AFO taking the wheel at worst.

And Muscular is not a joke as a fighter, he killed experiences pro heros before, Deku himself thought he was going to die in that fight and he as mentioned wrecked his arm to stand a chance and I doubt that he’d do whatever AFO wanted him to, instead of fight the guy. And no matter what AFO said, most villains tend to have their own agenda and if AFO lets them go, they probably just went back to going what they wanted do/did before they got arrested anyways. Just because he broke them out doesn’t mean they’ll take any commands from him and he’s not the kind of guy to do teamwork as we’ve already established.

You know it’s things like this why I say I can’t take AFO seriously as an endgame threat. Not only did he lose one army, he then gained another (much smaller but debatably more dangerous) army, only to then apparently tell them to screw off and do crime stuff.

Like, you bald fool, you are fighting against a country and you have maybe 3 or 4 men and some Nomu. You had more men & Nomu at the end of the Jaku battle, wherein you ran away from around 12 heroes. Why do you keep throwing away your resources? Do you even have an endgame plan, and if so, what could that plan possibly be that would be better than either the PLF or the prison escapees?