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Daenerys Stormborn And Her Coronation Robe With Historical Targaryens Rulers

Daenerys Stormborn and her coronation robe with historical Targaryens rulers

Daenerys Stormborn And Her Coronation Robe With Historical Targaryens Rulers
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10 months ago

Why do I mock the jonsa?

This was a question I contemplated after receiving this ask while I writhed on my couch floating on a cloud of pink monthly uterine pain as I said a slow good bye to my high :( Mocking the takes of Jonsas (and Stansas) is fun, makes me laugh, is not a particularly time consuming hobby, is mobile-friendly, desktop-friendly, break-friendly, get-ready-with-me-friendly, but most importantly? It's absolutely 100% fucking cathartic. After years and years of fighting Jonsas (and Stansas) pushing their takes as not just a personal headcanon but actual canon and watching the unfamiliar/casual/newbie viewer or reader take these guys at their word? Or witnessing Jonsas trying to convince other fans out of canon takes in favour of Jonsa views -- particularly certain Jonsa views having nothing (initially) to do with Jonsa, ie. Pol!Jon, a take I find particularly horrendous due to its straight-up misogyny, nonsense, and transparency of intention? Something needed to lance my infected sloshing blistering boil of fandom frustration. Thus this journal :) Enjoy the ooze.

I tried to debate with these guys politely, reference book quotes/script direction/dialogue excerpts/interview snippets/etc. lay out my reasoning. In response, 29 times out of 30, I was insulted, berated, called names, accused of harassment for replying to their comments to me -- the works! So the first reason is ✨catharsis & venting ✨.

My second reason is ✨ sharing the bullshit I come across ✨ -- for the most part, Jonsa theories aren't very original. They're copied, the counter arguments are verbatim, and what you've seen from one Jonsa, you're 99.9% going to see argued from another. When you're debating a Jonsa, you're debating a set of pre-written arguments. So if you see a Jonsa in the wild yourself and they're closing in on a newbie about to take their first sip of the lemonsnow liquid ice kool-aid...? I mock to spread awareness <3 Some examples of Jonsas trying to convert people in the wild of Pol!Jon:

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Yeah guys, Jon taking a page from Joffrey's book and sexually misleading, using, and abusing Dany before disposing of her after he steals from her what he wants is totally heroic from a certain side. It will completely come off that way in history. Yep. All because Dany wants to take back her family's dynasty like.... what, 98% percent of Westerosi nobles (including the Starks) want to....?

Why Do I Mock The Jonsa?

So, for me, it's not about "obsessively stalking and reading posts about characters you dislike" because I really like Jon. Really like Jon. Jon stan. What I don't like is whatever character Jonsas warp Jon into (Stark/Northern nationalist husband & personal bodyguard for Sansa Stark). I also like the characters Jonsas bash to prop Jonsa (Arya, Dany). As for Sansa, I don't go into her tag and I don't wish anything bad for her character (and I certainly don't hope she is sexually abused, used, mislead and disposed of). However, I do like to hold certain subfandoms accountable for the intellectual dishonesty of their arguments because what if somebody asks me for proof?


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10 months ago

It drives me to distraction when fans use Jon’s and Daenerys’ mistakes and struggles to argue that they are terrible and incompetent rulers, and that Sansa (who has never been as tested as them or presented challenges as delicate and complex such as integrating the wildlings or dismantling slavery and creating an entire economy) would be a better ruler.

The only reason Jon and Daenerys can be criticised is because we see them doing actual ruling. It's easy to say that Sansa would be a great ruler when it's all theoretical.

grrm actually shows what he meant by aragorn tax policy. he shows his characters actually struggling while rule because that's realistic. which is funny because the big experts and supposed fans of his work don't get that at all, they think that it's the fault of the characters and not a general lesson about ruling (jon and dany are also merely teenagers). they think that if sansa was in their place she wound do a great job and they think that the second young griff appears in westeros, he will solve every problem with a magic wand and daenerys will come to ruin everything lol.


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10 months ago

i'm sorry but i can't take it seriously when people say book jon wouldn't kill dany to protect his family or after what she did in kl.. yes, he absolutely would, even more firmly if anything


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the way Dany wouldn't threaten the starklings & neither would them to her especially not Jon in the books who highly pragmatic at heart🙃 highly doubt that Jon would risk a war as a true pragmatist or that he would even succeed in killing the likes of the most powerful women+ + in the world🤦🏾‍♀️ book Jon can try that & get wrecked by the Drogon the Dothraki the Unsullied even Rhaegal & Viserion like he would've realistically been+ +if he & most of the starklings didn't benefit from plot armor & plot contrivance 🤡🤣 realistically Jon would go free or get off scott-free without any consequences whatsoever🤨 fyi show Dany didn't even threaten the starklings or the North or even attempted to due to their plot armor & plot contrivance to get rid+ +of her after using her for their happy ending especially for that threatened bitter petulant impudent smug haughty racist xenophobic+ +classist bigoted aloof narcissist bratty frigid brexit bitch cringey cliche wannabe girl with distasteful uninspired “witty sassy” tired+ corny “comeback clapback one-liners” deluding yourselves into believing she ate when the North including the starkling especially stank+ +fish snark were hostile & ungrateful & petulant & impudent & brazenly vile degenerates to the people who were their only saving grace+ +from the moment they stepped foot in that barren wasteland that call their home🤨y'all acting as if it wasn't obvious to the characters &+ +the viewers that even Dany acknowledges she's aware of their petty reckless hostility & blatantly standoffish rude disrespect with their + +superiority complex which is from mainly sardine because of who Dany's father & house is for the rest but for stanka wannabe cerseifinger+ +0.000001 she only hates Dany because of her petty pathetic threatened insecurity jealously resentment envy as even d&d confirm the obvious anti dany antis anti jonsa anti sansa stans anti show sansa anti show starks anti stansas fandumb fandom nonsense fandom foolery fandom fuckery fandom clownery fandom delusion fandom wank fyi Jon would be risking everything dragons' wrath retribution wars etc neither he nor anyone could win while the North is struggle to+ +survive which will only end in misery & suffering for them w/ those pathetic attempts provoking & poking a sleeping dragon only to wake it
10 months ago

do you ever just connect with that one fictional character even though your life is nothing like theirs somehow you just understand them completely and get what they’re going through


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