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Byronic Heroes Don't Politcally Assassinate Their Enemies? Tell That To William Wallace, Boudica, Robin

Byronic heroes don't politcally assassinate their enemies? Tell that to William Wallace, Boudica, Robin Hood, Guy Fawkes, the Bakumatsu's four hitokiri. Any good hero should have one or two bodies under their belt.

Jaune hit on Weiss, but he gets treated negatively because of it and never once laid a hand on Weiss.

So what if RT made RWBY? Analysing the subcontext and subconscious intent of their work is what literature class is all about. Oh no, Bram Stoker made Dracula, better tell that to the director who made Van Helsing a monster hunter played by Hugh Jackman shooting a machine gun crossbow at Vampires. Just because RT created a media, the audience is not disallowed from drawing their own conclusions from what was shown.

Oh no, a villain threatens to destroy everything another character loves. So the Kingpin is abusive to Daredevil because he threatens Matt's friends, the Green Goblin is abusive to Peter Parker because he killed Gwen Stacy, but Cinderella? Forced to slave for her stepmother and is unable to escape slavery due to being dependent on the only adult in her life? Sorry, not abusive since Cinderella's stepmom did not threaten to hurt Cinderella's friends. Because Cinderella has no friends. Because Cinderella is forced into slavery by her own guardian, but that is not abuse.

Being abusive isn't simply hurting someone. Otherwise, every villain in every story would be considered 'abusive' just because he is being a villain. The Alien kills Ripley's crewmates, is the Alien a abuser?

Abuse is when a character subjects another character to harm over a long period of time, and the abused character can't avoid the harm because the abused character is wholly dependent on the abuser. Being abusive is not dependent on villainy, even. Turning Red's mother is abusive, some might say, but she is not villainous.

Blake always had freedom from Adam. Blake was never dependent on Adam. Blake is an independent thinker who isn't oppressed by Adam. Blake has always acted on her own initiative against the White Fang, and Adam was never an issue for Blake until they met in v3. After which, Blake and Adam became enemies.

Was Adam a persistent and vindictive enemy? Yes. But the shark from jaws was persistent, Moriarty from sherlock holmes is vindictive. Are Moriarty and Bruce both abusers to the heroes in their stories?

Adam is not abusive. He is an enemy of Blake's with a personal grudge, but that is what all enemies are.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.

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2 years ago

Hello hello everyone, I wanted to take some time to quickly introduce myself, I am Thia, I am a survivor of the Chinese femicide and the One-Child Policy, which was done away with in 2016. I was adopted back in January of 2004 and have been in the U.S since then. I do not remember much of my birth place, only that I ended up in the orphanage at 6 weeks, which is a little unique as most are placed immediately into an orphanage or killed. I was lucky enough to simply end up in the orphanage, instead of being abandoned in a box or killed off. I have grown up knowing that I survived infanticide, and I have always known that I was left behind by my birth family because of the One-Child Policy, because they wanted a son to guarantee their retirement and carry their name onto the next generation. I had no voice then, I had no one to speak for me, so I want to be the voice to those who cannot speak now.

China has always had terrible history of infanticide committed against Chinese girls. Some 30 million baby girls were abandoned, drowned, poisoned, left in a box, in an alley, the dumpster, they were left for dead. You name it someone had been driven by desperation to do it. And not only were many killed after birth, so many more where aborted when technology caught up and scans could indicate the sex of the baby. Abortion, legal or not, is painful for the baby, it is cruel and should never be an option to throw around as an alternative because someone does not want a child. Abortion is child murder and there is no other way to word it, there is no softening the blow of what abortion truly is, it is murder.

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2 years ago

'Abuse is maltreatment of a physical, emotional, and financial, toward one they have a close relationship with.'

'Abuse Is Maltreatment Of A Physical, Emotional, And Financial, Toward One They Have A Close Relationship

Abuse?

'Abuse Is Maltreatment Of A Physical, Emotional, And Financial, Toward One They Have A Close Relationship

Abuse?

'Abuse Is Maltreatment Of A Physical, Emotional, And Financial, Toward One They Have A Close Relationship

Abuse?

"Adam is abusive because he is motivated to hurt Blake because Blake left him."

"Adam is abusive because Blake left their romantic relationship and wants revenge."

Adam is abusive because he is motivated by revenge? That wouldn't fly, you need action and intent. We have intent, but what is Adam's action?

Adam ordered the assassination of his political enemies, and Blake. Is that enough to be considered abuse? Can't be. Otherwise, every villain is going to be considered an abuser to their enemy just because they try to kill them every other Thursday.

But if that is considered abuse, then the term abuse is meaningless because any act of violence can be considered the abuse of 'characters in a close relationship'. In which case, like I said in my OP, people need to stop projecting their issues on Adam treating Blake as an enemy.

But if we look at abuse as depicted in stories, or in RWBY, Adam's actions don't reflect the actions or characteristics of recognizable, abusive characters. Cinder Fall's stepmom being an example.

Ultimately, Adam isn't abusive because his relationship with Blake are, at best arch-enemies, based on how abusive relationships are shown in RWBY.

Second, if we are going to ignore that Adam's relationship with Blake does not reflect the characteristics of an abusive relationship, then any act of violence between characters is abusive. Therefore, abuse becomes a matter of perception. So people should just stop projecting their issues onto Adam, and Adam will no longer be abusive.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.


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2 years ago

Don't feel ignored. I think your points are valid, and I agree with them. Puts into words what people may be feeling but unable to express without being treated like pariahs.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.


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2 years ago

The world of Remnant is centered around 4 women who have all the magic power in the world shared between them.

While the Headmasters are men, Lionheart is subservient to Salem, and Ironwood and Ozpin tend to give way to the female characters in the show.

Coco Adel slapping a guy's ass with impunity.

Cinder also gets abused by women, mostly.

Women in Remnant, unintentionally or not, have more power than men substantially and narratively.

Adam attacked the Belladonnas because they oppose his White Fang. They are also the ex-leaders of the White Fang, so they are legitimate targets to be eliminated to ensure Adam's control.

Adam also didn't personally go after Blake at her home. He sent his three stooges equivalent of assassins and left them to bungle the job. Adam didn't pull a Darth Vader during Obi Wan's show and chased Blake himself across Remnant to kill her.

The creators may say Adam is abusive, but they decided to push bumbleby instead of blacksun because the fans said so. I don't think the creators are impartial as to the status of their narrative, whatever narrative there is.

Ultimately, Adam wasn't abusive. He was a villain, but his list of crimes do not include 'abuse'.

Adam Taurus is not abusive

Adam haters really need to stop projecting their issues onto a fictional character.

Adam was a tragic hero who needed some red pill knowledge. In the matriarchal society that is RWBY, Adam did not have any strong, masculine, role models who could have sat him down and told him that women ain't shit. That what Adam needed to do was fight the good fight, and show humans that Faunus are not to be trifled with.

Adam is kinda like Detlaff, the High Vampire from the Witcher 3 DLC; Blood and Wine. In this instance; a man loved a woman, and when that woman took advantage of his love, a white knight simp killed him when he sought justice for that betrayal.

Adam's tale is a Shakespearean tragedy about a Byronic hero who allowed his broken heart to overtake his heroic nature.

Adam Taurus is a cautionary tale for men in a gynocentric world; don't get close to the Amber Turds lest they take a literal shit on your metaphorical bed.

Adam Taurus Is Not Abusive

Shit, man. Adam Taurus was one of the better ones.


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2 years ago

I don't think there is such a thing as religious freedom.

There is only religious tolerance.

And it may be time to stop tolerating certain things.


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