Moon In 8th House Mothers: What You See Is Not What You Get.

Moon in 8th house mothers: What you see is not what you get.

Natives with moon in 8th house have crazy mothers. Their mothers display symptoms of mental illnesses, NPD/BPD to be specific.

What mother is in public is very different from how she acts in private. Mother is neglectful towards emotional needs of the child. Mother is depressed and frustrated. The child has to cater to the emotional needs of the mother rather than vice versa. House environment is literally like walking on eggshells.

These mothers are unpredictable, people pleasers, deeply insecure and lonely. Their physical circumstances are such that they always wear a fake mask for the world and do not show their real face to anyone. The reason being that the mother is living on survival mode so she never learned who her authentic self is.

Moon in 8th house child eventually comes to realize their mother's reality. They end up on r/raisedbyborderline or r/raisedbynarcissist communities for example. They unlearn the trauma their mother gave them and relearn self soothing and self development skills. These natives also discover occult to understand their own feelings. I have two astro observations about natives who have moon in 8th house and how their mothers turned out to be:

In one astro observation, the mother is a pathological liar, manipulative, self centered. She lies about being religious and wise. She lies about her achievements and her family's status. She is very controlling and frustrated. A saint in public and a demon in private. This mother is the embodiment of 8th house darkness. This mother is not really nice. She sowed seeds of hatred in the heart of his brother against his wife and daughter so that she could control him.

In other astro obersation, the mother is short tempered, controlling, impulsive and self centered. She does not lie though her face is different for public v/s private. This mother is immature and unpredictable. Cheerful in public, though she can be gruelsome in private. This mother does not have much control over her relatives and is not exploitative. This mother minds her own business but is very moody and doesn't listen to anyone.

Both natives have moon in 8th house, but their mothers are different although similar undertones. These natives keep their family life secret because of psychic reasons. People will not trust them if they tell their mother's truth. These natives also realize that their mother's emotional abuse was a blessing in disguise for them. The silver lining is that they venture into occult to discover the truth and secrets of life. They go into emotional and spiritual healing. This privilege is not available to everyone.

Hi I just saw ur post about moon and Venus synastry in the 8th house. I also have a Venus 8th house and ur story feels so close to mine. But it was with my best friend and I was the narcissistic one. I feel unworthy and can’t find anyone else I could rly call my best friend. I have tried and it never works out. Do you ever feel like your love language is too much and overwhelming for others? Like I’m very self aware and spiritual as well and have improve this but others still seem bothered :/

Hi! While I dont give personal life advice but I dont think that narcissism goes away so easily. If you know that you're narcissistic then your love language is probably excessive admiration, words of praise and inflated ego. You're very self aware but let's dig down a little deeper. Narcissism develops in response to early childhood neglect, emotional abuse and undeveloped self.

I know quite a few narcissistic people who are self aware of their tactics and are also very religious. it just doesn't make any sense.

Astrologically, I know that aries placements especially Aries sun are narcissists!

I think you need to do more shadow work and bring more inner motivations to surface. You're full of anger, confusion, inferiority, powerlessness and insecurities. You have to realize that the only thing you have power over is your mind not other people. You dont own others and leading others will not fulfill you.

You probably need to lower your expectations and gain more self control. Not all of our desires are valid and relevant. Not all desires have to be fulfilled by others. I think that you're still seeing people in black and white. People have both good and evil parts in them. They might show their good side to some and evil side to others.

Analyze yourself. What do you talk about with others, what is your active imagination, what is your inner dialogue, what do you feel around others, how do you view yourself, do you have realistic expectations from life, do you live in fantasy world, do you expect perfection, do you seek utopia, do you want the world to be how you want, do you have FOMO, do you have an expressive relationship with your parents, are you wounded? Have you healed your emotional wounds?

Thanks for trusting that I might know answer to your question. Good luck.

Scorpio placements really need to calm the kid down

These are some of the most dramatic people in astro world. One can call them a puppy--they are that intense, spontaneous and maniac.

An undeveloped scorpio though could be really problematic. They are intense, impulsive, rash, defensive, possessive, irrational, emotional, attention seeker, controlling, manipulative and drama queens. It is not their fault either. Most scorpio placements have problems with people. People treat them to the extreme levels. They are ridiculed, bullied, hated for no reason and dismissed or ignored. As a result, growing up, they become defensive and live on survival mode.

What they need to learn is to calm down their inner child. The philosophy of tao teaches to go with the flow. Similarly, stoicism teaches us to follow reason and virtues. They will benefit the most from studying stoicism because it is all about learning to manage your emotions. A Stoic doesn't act on their emotions but evaluates the choices in front of them and work according to the virtues.

One problem that these natives often face is the problem of emotional thinking. They are not logical. They might even lack common sense sometimes. I have observed that these natives are some of the most irrational people in decision making. Their mind works emotionally and not rationally. If they feel something they act on it. They dont stand to think why they are feeling that way and whether it is proper to react to this situation.

Often these natives are born to parents who also have similar placements so it is also a learned behaviour and thought process for these natives. You can really learn to control your emotions by altering your thought process. For eg, start calculating the cost benefit analysis of your actions. Texting that crush out of maniac episode? Picking up fight over random nothing? Eating tubs of ice cream on a sad evening? Falling in love with a man you met last week? Breaking up with your partner to test their commitment? These are unnecessary tactics. It shows lack of self control. It shows lack of maturity.

Scorpio placements have the best potential to do psychoanalysis and shadow work because of their proponsity to be in touch with their feelings. But it is only possible once they lose the fear of not having control, abandonment, playing mind games, rejection, criticism, etc. Your fears are defense mechanism.

Another mindset these natives have is the mind of perfection/idealization. They idealize even worship their partner. In terms of career, studies and lifestyle as well, they have perfectionist expectations and delusional thinking. No, other people are not perfect. Grass is not greener on the other side. Every single person has shadow side, darkness, flaws, faults, mistakes. Anyone who pretends to be perfect is fooling you, whether on media or in reality. These natives have parents who also had unrealistic perfectionist expectations from them so they grow up thinking this is the norm of life. It is not.

These natives also struggle with trusting too easily. There is a sort of naivety and gullibility in them like a little toddler who trusts people blindly. They might have black and white thinking. They either see people as all good or all bad depending upon how they make them feel. They are prone to exploitation and manipulation because of gullibility and naivety. I am not even making it up. Observe any Scorpio placement native in your life. They all show the same intensity.

This distinguishes them from other "maniac" energy signs like Gemini Libra or Aquarius. Scorpio native is gifted in occult if only they learn to get handle on their emotions. Air signs are not naturally into occult.

You can learn to calm down and savor the little blessings of life. Accept the people for who they are. Do not wear your heart on your sleeves.

Hey rose 💞

I see you talk about having 8th house synastry and it's quite interesting yet scary. I'm glad you are able to overcome and transform into the best version of yourself.

I wanna ask you something that is probably dumb but it's consuming me so -

What do you think of having a 12th house synastry with your fav celeb and the favortisnm becomes obsession like can't help but think about them the whole day and night and i sometimes end up crying 💀

I checked the synastry and my sun, mercury,Mars and Jupiter fall in their 12th house. OMG

And their Mars falls in my 8th house damn...

Can you answer thank you love 💕

Hi! Well, I personally dont do synastry readings with celebrity. I think it is a waste of time to live in such fantasy. Your subconscious is probably trying to tell you something. Do you want to become popular, special, important, loved and liked by everyone? What is it about this celebrity that attracted you--any movie or song? Did you see them play a character in a show and you were super attracted to the personality?

Obsession always tells you something about yourself. It tells you what you're lacking within you. It tells you your insecurities. If you're a girl, you have an animus. Are you sure you're not obsessed with your own animus? Celebrity worshipping is nothing but idealization for people with low self esteem. There is something lacking in you that only you can answer.

I have moon in 12th house synastry with my mother. I am not obsessed with her but I am enmeshed with her. I feel like she is a part of me. I dont remember living a life different from her. Her life was my life. Her story was my story. Her problems were my problems. I was her parent partner and child.

I have moon in 8th house synastry with my father. Yes I was obsessed with my father figure. This is probably the reason why I bumped into another 8th house synastry situationship after which i was able to realize my personality issues.

I have tried to heal both my negative mother and farher complexes. Personal responsibility, maturity, skills, job, career, hobbies, life responsibilities, purpose in life. Make sure you have all these. Then your obsession will lose its grip over you.

Let's see how much of it is true.

Placements that can make a person emotionally manipulative

Water Mercury signs -> Scorpio Mercuries might be very direct and agressive in arguments (they use sentences like "You always fuck things up/I always knew you would betray me one day"), while Pisces and Cancer Mercury might play the victim and use sentences like "Because of you I'm feeling awful today/I cried all day because of you."

Libra Mercury -> might sweet-talk you into doing things you don't really want to do

Gemini Mercury -> trickster/kitsune vibe, might lie and hide things from you

Leo Mercury -> dramatic, explosive, will make a scene to make you feel bad

Scorpio Moon -> they read people very well, might use that to their advantage

Pisces Moon -> might use drugs/alchohol every time you fight with them making you feel like you're the one that's destroying them

Water Mars signs -> excellent in twisting the argument in their favor/can be awfully manipulative in fights (Pisces Mars !!!)

12th house placements -> good at keeping secrets and psychoanalyzing people (might cheat & lie if the placements are badly aspected)

Neptune conjunct ASC -> they can hide their true selves easily

8th house placements -> can use occult to manipulate you

Pisces rising -> looks sweet and innocent but can lead you on/play with your emotions and trick you into thinking they're something they're not

Libra Sun/Moon/Rising -> can be more two-faced than Gemini placements

Lilith/Pluto in the 8th house -> might use sex to manipulate you (also Scorpio Mars)

Please do post about the physical appearance and sexuality of a 8 th house Venus female

Hi! Trigger warning: abuse.

Can astrology foretell physical appearance of a native?

Well, they look like their parents or their grandparents. I look like a mix of my father, his mother and some other traits here and there.

I have often read such posts where Libra/Taurus/etc celebrities pictures and aesthetics are posted about natives. Perhaps it resonates on a subconscious level. For eg, I am venus in 8th house lady and I can subconsciously relate to femme fatale siren vibes but I dont act or dress like that in real life. So, perhaps you can relate to the aesthetic on energy levels but it totally depends on you how you style yourself.

When it comes to my appearance though, yes, I do attract a lot of envy and irrational reactions from people. As if they see me and want to project all the negative things on me. I also attract many narcissistic people.

Something that I have done all my life, even before I knew astro, was that I loved making eye contact with boys. I was a little kid staring into the eyes of my crush. We would have staring competition and we just stared at each other. I love staring. Eye contacts are my favourite thing about a relationship.

Throughout my school and college life, I always had a fanboy. Always. When I was a little girl, boys would stalk my house, write my name on the board, tease me in front of class, play with me, sing dirty songs at me, adult men would touch me, lots of cheek kissing and touching. During my teenage years, I used to get cat called, two boys gave me their phone numbers written on paper, one boy in my class was devoted to me like a servant (yes, he was that devoted), I always had a boy in my class who was just obsessed with me. In senior school, there was a boy who literally stared at me like crazy. He was the boy for whom I started using astro to know about. He was born on 1st May and I thought he was Taurus. I used to calculate our zodiac love scores lol. Little did I know astrology is much more dense and elaborate.

During my undergrad college years, there were 3 boys who kept flirting with me. One classmate kept asking me to ask me out and I kept declining because of some insecurities. I used to use online chatrooms during this period and talked to many obsessive stalker men, including my 8th house synastry that I became obsessed with.

During my post graduation, I again had a boy calling me out of nowhere to talk to me for hours about college stuff. We were in lockdown at that time. Now I am graduated and single. I have overcome my obsession and now I just want to get married and settle down.

You can see what a rollercoaster my love life has been. I am average looking for my society's standards. Nothing sensational. I am cute, well shaped body though.

As for sexuality, I personally was hypersexual but now I have calmed down. A lot of these natives go into porn work. They also have casual hookups. If not this, they might have been sexualized as a child and also faced some kind of sexual abuse.

Do pay attention to the rest of your chart too. This post will be useful if you can relate to my experiences. A lot of things very based on the whole chart, cultural differences, society, family structure and personal destinies.