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Hi. I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask, but do you think it would be justifiable to write a webcomic where the protagonists are in an incestuous relationship that’s portrayed positively? I’m not sure if I should go this route or if I should just stick to shipping the protagonists together in my mind and not actually making it canon. Incestuous relationships in fiction seem to almost always be portrayed negatively or as a tragedy, so I feel like I would end up alienating most of a potential audience and even opening myself up for harassment/scorn. I’ve written romantic incest fanfiction in the past, but writing an actual comic containing the topic seems like a whole different ballgame.

You'll be opening yourself up to harassment and scorn by depicting incest at all, so if that's one of the deciding factors, I'd chose a different topic entirely.

That said; I stand by the age old wisdom of one's fictional tastes not representing their personal menu. To use The Salmon Analogy, a chef can cook salmon while actually hating the stuff. Or being impartial to it. Or disliking it.

You will inevitably get a barrage of pushback both about depicting incest at all and depicting it romantically, but if its something you want to do, do it. Its fiction. Incestuous fiction doesn't always have to be a Romeo and Juliet story. Give the bloodline fuckers a happy ending if that's what you want. If you want to do it, its worth doing.

Positively portraying incest should have no impact on other people. Fiction is not reality and one romantic portrayal of incest is not going to lead to a sudden pandemic of people fucking their siblings.

You do not have to justify why you wrote something.

Being "incognito" in an antiship space when you are proship and vice versa can genuinely be so dangerous. On both sides. It is absolutely not worth the potential risks. Whatever benefits you think you're gaining form it I can promise you aren't worth it.

Very specific question, but do you (or anyone else) know of how to get rid of that nagging feeling of sharing everything you create?

I'm a writer, both in the fanfic sense and of my own stories. I'm also proship, but nobody I care about knows that fact due to be so severely anti to the point of me mentioning the discourse (to test the waters) gets a blatant "proshippers aren't human beings and should kill themselves".

I really want to write a small fic about a problematic ship (young child x older person) that I don't even actually like! I don't ship it, though I don't care if other people do. But I'm fascinated by the idea of it, the possible dynamic, because it's very popular in the proshipper circle of the fandom and it's been nagging at me. The problem is that I write and then want to share it. Writing for myself feels.... Wrong, almost? But I cannot share it with my loved ones. I had previously already suggested writing a similar idea to a very close friend and he was severely disgusted by it, asked me if I was genuinely considering writing it and I had to very quickly play it off as a joke.

And I know the next suggestion will be the proshipper side of the fandom, but sharing my work online for others I don't know to see makes me personally uncomfortable, which is a major shame.

(I'm not even going to touch the fact that your "loved ones" think people like you should kill themselves.)

But. A good way is to treat them like an assessment opportunity. Make a copy of each piece and use something like Google Documents to annotate and evaluate what you've written. Move all of the originals into a secondary folder.

Not only will this help improve your writing in the long run, but it somewhat changes the intent of the literature from something written to, at its core, be shared, into a personal resource.

There's also the option of making new friends. You don't have to go out and gather people up like a squirrel with a winter store, but even just one likeminded person whom you can get to know well enough to feel comfortable sharing your work can help sate that need to share and engage with someone about what you create. You can send your content to them privately, then, rather than uploading it for the masses.

But. I would just gently like to say that perhaps its not the need to share that you need to reflect on and try to negate. If you have to ask how to stifle yourself so that your loved ones don't think of you as inhuman meat that needs to be slaughtered, perhaps you're asking the wrong questions.

is it normal to feel guilty for being proship? like i know its honestly not that big of a deal but i suppose ive just been listening to antis too hard and now i feel like im broken for believing in what i believe in. they keep talking about how being an anti is normal and if i disagree then im weird. am i overreacting :sob:

Being an anti is not any more normal than being a proshipper and as a proshipper the sole reason you feel guilty is because of the pressure and harassment antis direct at you, which is their goal.

Be unapologetically proship. If they are entitled to their beliefs and are unapologetic in their misguidance, then you are entitled to the same claim to normalcy.

saw ur post about going incognito into spaces and stuff and i wanted to add my own thoughts about my experience of basically being stuck in places where proshippers r hated (not against wut ur saying! i definitely agree that theres no benefits and honestly its not that fun)

the fandom that im currently in is.. very toxic. someone got harassed to the point of having to delete their account bc they "supported" a proshipper (it was literally just them saying that u shouldnt harass this person just bc theyre proship-). a lot of my friends were very supportive of this person and agreed that ppl shouldnt be harassed over shit like that and many of them seem to have similar viewpoints as me (anti harassment and all that) but prefer to stay away from that stuff

the fandom is basically ran by antis. theres a small corner that some ppl have made where they talk about proship stuff freely (love those ppl so much theyre genuinely so nice) but overall its. not the best place to be if ur proship. which is interesting to me bc theres actually a shocking amount of proshippers that just... dont say anything. on my side blog ive had multiple ppl interact that i thought were anti (or at least just. not proship in some way) but would literally go and like all my posts about incest ships of the characters.

and sometimes i think about it and how theres actually a bunch of proshippers but we're so heavily harassed and silenced that we just- dont say anything. but the fandom is small and we cant exactly separate ourselves from it if we really like the show. and i feel especially bad for some of the bigger blogs that ppl love and adore bc i know wut would happen if somehow ppl found out and made some big post or wutever.

i dont pretend to be antiship but i dont outright say im proship unless i really trust that person

im currently trying to make my own lil space with some friends so at least if anything goes wrong i at least have a few ppl but its a bit scary to think about honestly-

Although it can be full of snot-nosed superiority complexes, I do recommend using the AO3 Subreddit in order to find likeminded people for your fandom. The very vast majority of the AO3 Subreddit is proship or at least proship neutral. Antis are generally eviscerated on sight whenever they try to poke their nose into it.

If you have any other fandoms that you are active in or have friends within, there's also no harm in introducing them to your small fandom.

From what I understand the Marvel fandom did kind of the same thing you're describing with the Starker shippers, but they flourished and supported each other anyway.

I know its easy for me to simply say 'do it anyway' as someone who generally could not give a fuck about anyone's opinion of me, but honestly. Do it anyway. Form your little collective. Support each other. Learn how to write and draw and make GIFs so you feed your own portion of the fandom. You physically do not need those people, it just unfortunately takes a bit of effort and means potentially a bit less content until you start really generating your own.

Fandom spaces do not start out from nothing. Promote the shit out of your fandom. Draw people in. Comb through the proship tags and send asks to blogs like mine asking other proshippers to check out the source material.

People in small fandoms are easy to bully because you're so enclosed into this circle of the exact same people. They happen to be the majority in the room and they're weaponising it.

Force them into a bigger room.