Replayed The Last Few Levels Again (to Try And Actually Understand This Mess Of A Plot) And I Missed

Replayed the last few levels again (to try and actually understand this mess of a plot) and I missed the first time it said "to be continued in the next generation". As much as I love Viola I dont think she can hold up a game on her own, plus I'm not playing bayonetta for viola, im playing for cereza. Like they didn't need to make a new mc they have a multiverse now, show us the full other alt bayo's stories. I really want to see more about the Papillon d'Ombre she was my favorite alter and she actually got to grow up with her mom.

It could be neat to see other versions of bayo's kids, like I'd personally like to see a bayojeanne kid but that'll never happen but I think it's gonna just focus on this Viola

Some thoughts I've had after finishing Bayonetta Origins

Before my rambling mess of thoughts here's some general ones for those who don't wanna read.

Its a great game 8/10, the only issues I have with it are skill issue based and the parts the revolve around bayo 3, its beautiful and complex and I love finally learning some backstory (even if it's for my least favorite adult cereza) all the voice work and music are amazing. the art is amazing as usual. I'd highly recommend playing it if you haven't already. Also be wary for spoilers in the read more.

Ok so the rambles and game theories

This game made me realize (in my mind) why bayo 3 cereza was so... weak and emotionless. If the ending is to be believed, she left the village to travel the world. This means that she didn't have jeannes teachings and was more or less self taught (explaining the fact she can't use 2 different weapons) it also explains why she is so socially awkward, people on their own can lose those social skills and she's been alone for centuries. I do adore little cereza and her growth, but she wouldn't have the uh.. trauma that the others would have, if she left there's not reason for her to return for the war if anything she would stay far far away, and I doubt she would think her mother couldn't handle herself. Her dream at the end even shows her without the shackles so Rosa would be imagined at full power (which is very formidable). It also makes sense to me that since she is the arch eve origin she would be the worst so to speak, she was the origin everyone else deviated from her and gained new strength where she didn't. But this is all my own cracked out game theory and thinking too much about it (it's not that deep im just a hater of 3)

Now onto Lukaon, I hate him more the learn about him. why are we supposed to root for their romance when all he was shown to do was manipulate cereza and try to murder her closest friend, like yeah he was desperate but he was still an antagonist. They also just straight up made him a clone of cereza, I won't go into how much I dislike that trope but I didn't like it in stranger things dont like it here. They are just ruining Luka to me and I don't like that I enjoyed bayo 1 &2 luka but now he is a shell of what he used to be. I will say that due to being a hater, I did call lukaon being a villain from the beginning. What I didn't call was Morgana being evil and being his mom.

Onto jeanne, her little side story has just made her death worse for me. You are telling me that she KNEW how she was going to die and just did nothing. Nah, this woman may be insane but she isn't stupid. She so into preserving the umbra legacy and having them live on, she would just accept her death.

Also on that note, the destiny thing. Platinum seems to be backpeddling on the themes of destiny. Bayo 1&2 were all about how you can change your destiny and that fate isn't set in stone but in 3 and origins they say you cannot change destiny and it will course correct if you do so it will always happen. Which imo is detrimental to the story cuz that was always a good message but whatever I'm not a writer (even if I try to be sometimes)

I've realized this is all me complaining and it makes me seem like I hate this game, I don't, I live it! It's just easier for me to put my complaints into words than just saying "it's great!" Over and over.

I will say I loved all the characters (minus lukaon) and I really wish they used the fairies instead of the lameculus, they were so fun and actually unique! But that wouldn't make sense in the lore (even if it still kinda doesn't, like why are there no good fairies that support the true royals??? Maybe they weren't as popular as lukaon said) anyway love the little guys. And the wisps! They were super cute. I do wish we had more of Cereza and Jeanne interacting as they were supposed to be best friends as kids but im not too upset as cereza was in the forest the whole time (maybe some flashbacks would have been fun) and here I go complaining in my positive section lol. Anyway it's a great game and it actually brought back my enthusiasm for the series

I feel like Bayo 3 Bayo was 100% little Cereza from 1 the more I think about it tbh

Oh yeah same, there are so many similarities but there are also some discrepancies (but thats probably the bad writing)

My Pros, Cons, and Neutrals for Bayo 3 to get my thoughts about the game organized.

Pros:

ngl i prefer the new VA for Bayo. Dont know why but i just like it more

The combat is amazing (for bayo, but ill get to that in a min)

The art and design choices are *chefs kiss* magnificent as always

I absolutely adore Viola and Cheshire and think they are a good addition (as a side character)

The music is great but also not very bayonetta-y (if that makes sense)

As an unpopular opinion, The jeanne mini game was great, I loved it

The demon masquerades were a great game mechanic to add

im alone in this opinion but i like that they removed the hair from the demons, i just want to admire that model baybee

The alt universes (while massivly confusing) were so interesting and i wish they had gone more into them

the kaiju battles (especially Baal zebul)

Its just a fun game to play imo

Neutral:

I liked the homunculi but man they were kinda samey

the rpg skill system was a bit hard to get used to but thats cuz i forgot about it several times

not being able to mix and match weapons, i can live with out it but i miss it

glad they brought everyone back in the end (allegedly) but we didnt need that depressing ending.  Series has never been depressing

The madama kaiju was my least fav but im just salty cuz shes my fav demon (yes im basic)

moonlight serenade was the weakest of the moon songs and i got annoyed listening to it over and over

Cons:

WHAT THE F**K IS A FAIRY

The characterization of all the previous characters was kinda bland, even bayo was very toned down to be a touch boring

the whole Luka thing (which im not even gonna get into that can of worms) (not the romance, the werewolf thing and his weird im a god now thing)

THe adam and eve thing (just....ew)

What whas singularity’s plan???

Killing every alter with a deus ex machina was just rude

Making bayo feel fairly weak compared to Luka and Viola’s weird fairy nonsense was weird to me

the story

we are one was not it chief

What is it with final fantasy and making super hot blond haired villainesses??? First Jihl and now Benedikta. Not fair

I'm sure there are more but I can't remember them, plus I simped for Jihl for an embarrassingly long time