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No, But Seriously, That Doesn't Make Any Sense.

No, but seriously, that doesn't make any sense.

Sentimonsters don't have free will when someone is holding their amok. They can't resist or talk back or disobey the way Adrien has been doing since the literal canonical start of the series.

Hell, the first time Adrien tried to run away to school Gabriel explicitly told him not to do that again. And what did Adrien do? He disobeyed.

The only other sentimonster that even attempted to resist was Feast and it could only do that because it's amok was in it's stomach. Touching the damn thing wouldn't make a sentimonster more obedient when you're already holding their "free will" in the palm of your hand. Gabriel fiddles with the ring because it's a physical representation of his obsession with Emilie.

Why wouldn't Adrien follow Gabriel when called? He's Adrien's father sperm donor and this is probably the most Gabriel has talked to him since Glaciator 2.

And Adrien being a sentimonster is literally contradicted by Chat Blanc not listening to Gabriel when he ordered Adrien to ash Ladybug.

Also, I won't be acknowledging tweets from creators that have trolled the fandom for literal years.

(No, I will not be taking constructive criticism at this time.)

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InĀ ā€œFeastā€, Nathalie blackmails the sentimonster with a threat of removing the amok, and FeastĀ clearly, physically reacts to her powers. InĀ ā€œLadybugā€, Marinette gives Sentibug the amok and Nathalie promptly wipes her out of existence.Ā 

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Thatā€™s why Iā€™m still not convinced - because this setup would amount to some MASSIVELY CLUMSY STORYTELLING. IfĀ Adrien is a sentimonster, then the only tidy way out of it is if The Wish ends up being used to turn him into a Real Boy or something to equal effect, and thenĀ what was the point except just adding another item to the list of Adrien Agresteā€™s life is despair.Ā 

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äæ”ć˜ć¦ćŸć®ć«!/shinjiteta no ni!

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