Some Things Never Change, Happy 4th Anniversary To Frozen II

Some things never change, Happy 4th Anniversary to Frozen II ❄🍁

Was going to make an OFA poster but I'm running out of time so Happy 6th Anniversary to Olaf's Frozen Adventure as well 🔥

A (brief) analysis on Generational Curses in Frozen

...through Agnarr and Iduna.

Spoilers for Dangerous Secrets

A lot of people say that Agnarr and Iduna were terrible parents. I am of the mind they weren't terrible people, but they were completely unequipped to handle the situation with their daughter and the people they thought would be able to help were only of limited help.

forever angry that Grand Pabbie didn't say Love will be your ally instead of Fear will be your enemy

However, I want you to consider where Agnarr came from for a moment. He was the child of an absent mother and an abusive father. A father who hated magic and was "killed" by it at the same time. Agnarr witnessed it all and furthermore grew up in a very anti-magic Arendelle while he was being trained to be king.

And yet, he had a daughter who had magic. Beautiful, cold, unlimited magic. Not only did he love her, but he allowed she and her sister to play with the magic freely when no one else could witness it. The only time he buckled down and responded in fear was when Anna got hurt.

And even then, he only separated Elsa from Anna until they could figure out how to control it. He didn't treat Elsa like a monster. He was kind and calm and passed on the best coping mechanism he had (that was toxic mess, admittedly). The problem is, years went by. He was king as well as the father of Elsa. He had so much on his shoulders, but even still, when his wife confessed her truth and told him straight-up that they had to do this right and tell the truth, he listened. He even agreed to take a journey into a killer sea (which is canon even without Dangerous Secrets) - knowing that he might be leaving his daughters behind forever - to help his daughter.

There are some parents who aren't even brave to defend their child against an emotionally abusive relative.

Agnarr wasn't perfect... but in some ways he broke the generational curses that his father passed onto him.

As for Iduna?

Iduna didn't have an generational curses until after she was separated from her home and forced to endure a lifetime in a culture that hated who she really was and where she came from. The generational curse comes in because the secret of Elsa's magic was ingrained in Iduna's darkest secret. She didn't want her daughters to be rejected. She didn't want Elsa to be feared for another reason.

"But if she had been honest, Elsa would have been saved earlier on!"

You ever... been in a world like that? In a life like that? Are you neurodiverse? Queer? Trans? Refugee? POC? Indigenous? Female? Have you ever been in a situation where you had to hide your authentic self/thoughts/beliefs/feelings/words because to embrace your authenticity might lead to rejection, harm, or even getting killed?

Iduna faced that every damn day of her life.

Worse, she married the man who ruled the very kingdom that hated her. Thankfully, he did not. Agnarr was surprisingly forward-thinking.

But the hate of Arendelle is what brainwashed Iduna into believing that whether her Northuldra origins are good or not... it is better to keep it hidden for her daughters' safety. For them to know the truth would only make everything so much worse, right?

Unfortunately, Iduna probably knew from the very beginning that the Northuldra, Enchanted Forest, the Spirits, and Ahtohallan are the key to all of this. That would mean she would have to tell Agnarr. The love of her life. The man that she was told would turn on her if she ever said the truth. She could get run out of the kingdom along with her daughters. And on top of all of that, they would lose their father. She would lose... be rejected by... the love of her life.

That kind of pressure and pain can paralyze you and your children and your children's children... but Iduna finally said something because the pain of her daughter was worse than the pain of everything else that could happen. Iduna pushed through all the fear and told Agnarr the truth. And she too volunteered to sail into a killer sea to help her daughter, knowing she might not return.

Some parents don't even want to go to their kids' talent show.

If you wanna blame anyone, blame Arendelle and more specifically, Runeard. Agnarr knew his father was a monster in the end, so bad that he drove Rita out. Agnarr wasn't perfect for the situation with Elsa, but he did loads better than his ancestors. And Iduna - that fearless, free Northuldra girl - told her husband the truth knowing it might get her killed. It is so much more complicated than "they were shitty parents."

Did they fuck up? Absolutely. Is Dangerous Secrets considered canon by Jen Lee? No.

But the fact that Agnarr and Iduna went into that sea is!

So you know that All is Found is coming out Nov. 7 and I’m very excited about this. I’m also agonized because I’m not a part of this 🤣😩

But that got me thinking… what if for the 10th anniversary of Frozen, the fans came together and did their own project? I was thinking an anthology as well, but I’m open to other suggestions.

@karma26 @true--north @hafanforever @greatqueenanna @lovewillthaw-j @frozensunflowersandlilies @secretsofthestorymakers @the-blue-fairie @hawthorne-spengler-stantz and so many others. I’m not making this exclusionary. I just tagged people I thought would be interested. More people can get involved!

I’m just interested in creating something. It’s the 10th anniversary! Frozen deserves it!

Wish Analysis Pt. 1/3

I just saw Wish and 😍😍✨🤩!!!!!! I love it SO MUCH!!!! I have a rule for myself: watch first, analyze later, so I only really have surface level analysis right now, but I figured I’d write and post it anyway! Sorry this is gonna be super long, I typed a whole essay! Obviously spoilers ahead:

First of all, let me just say that I was absolutely dazzled! The animation, the songs, the story, AHHH so good! And STAR 🤩🤩!! YES! The songs felt very Disney, but in a new way that I absolutely loved. I was crying, stifling screams (because movie theater), and I nearly fell off my chair a few times. I’m legit thinking about going to see it again tomorrow.

Ok, enough of me just fangirling haha. There were so many references to other Disney movies in Wish. I know I missed some while watching and I’ve forgotten some since then, but I’ll try to summarize what I saw. Beginning with a storybook was a beautiful choice as a nod to old Disney movies. So many Snow White references, it was insane. Dahlia and the other kitchen workers were the seven dwarves, the wishing well (that was also a hidden Mickey), Magnifico’s whole hidden lair (especially the poison apple and listing ingredients). There was a bear named John (Little John from Robin Hood), a bunny did Thumper’s foot tapping thing, a deer named Bambi, the mushrooms and flowers dancing could be Alice in Wonderland all in the You’re a Star sequence. There were lanterns and the boats as a reference to Tangled. The vines of magic across the castle at the end looked very much like Maleficent’s magic. The swirling clouds above the castle looked like Night on Bald Mountain. When Magnifico got trapped in the staff at the end was very Jafar in the lamp. At one moment in the forest Magnifico directly mirrored a shot of the Headless Horsemen from The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad. Asha riding on a deer surrounded by other deer could have been a reference to Lost in the Woods. And all the wishes briefly mentioned/shown were references to other Disney movies; one directly used footage from Peter Pan (and then showed Peter and Wendy in the very end), a wish for true love could be any number of movies, the wish to sail a ship could be Peter Pan, but I think was probably Moana, the wish for a perfect nanny for their children must have been Mary Poppins (which is slightly odd, since every other reference I caught was to an animated movie, but whatever), and the one to climb a mountain was about Strange World. I know I’ve missed dozens of references, but that’s all I can think of right now!

Frozen 3 & 4 - more analyzing

So I was thinking that when Jen Lee made F2, she turned her focus to Elsa's magic and where it comes from and why she has it. This was the most obvious direction they could have gone in.

So what would be the most obvious direction for them to go in next?

I think the most obvious direction would be exploration of Anna and Elsa as the fifth spirit, further exploration of Ahtohollan, and their mission as the bridge between the Northuldra and Arendelle, and healing the rift therein.

So I think at least F3 will be lore-heavy (though they gotta keep the story character-centric because that is what makes it SO GOOD).

I had noticed this a while ago but just learned something in Latin class today that makes this even better, so here we go:

When Anna pulls off Elsa’s glove at the coronation, she pulls off the left glove, which means that all of Elsa’s accidental magic as she flees Arendelle was with her left hand. Traditionally, left handedness and the left hand in general was associated with evil, or the devil. Even the Latin word for left or left handed, siníster, also means harmful or ill-omened. For many years, left handed people were considered strange or wicked and were forced to use their right hand instead. I think this was absolutely an intentional detail that reinforces Elsa’s negative perception of her magic, up until “well now they know,” when she pulls off her other glove and starts using both hands. The magic that caused the initial destruction in Arendelle was from her left hand and therefore symbolically associated with evil in her eyes and the eyes of the townspeople.