I Am As I Said Still Waiting Out With What He Does Now, But The Framing Of Twice Death Really Put Him
I am as I said still waiting out with what he does now, but the framing of Twice death really put him in an Icarus framing, someone flying too high and ending up dead. (Also works really well with Dabi burning his wings.)
It is psychologically extremely interesting that he still sees Twice as a friend, even though they never were friends. He used Twice to get information and started his first killing hit once Twice didn’t want to be saved the way Hawks wanted him to and he did that by using Twice mental instability. That is the opposite of saving someone, that is abusing someone. (Of course Hawks had good reasoning but it doesn’t make the practice he used any better, which Hawks as you said does realize.)
And what he does with this underlying part of: I want to be free, I want to help my friends now that the commission isn’t up and running I actually have a choice is going to be very telling.
On the other hand he (and Best Jeanist) obviously only see what they think is right without questioning the reasoning of the LoV, seen though Dabi because it doesn’t align with their world view that they (especially Hawks) were born into.
This non-understanding of Dabi (why did he do this? We don’t understand, even though Dabi made a whole essay about it and Endevour confessed) and non-understanding of Twice (still calling him his friend, thinking Twice would betray his actual friends) would need to go away for him to get on a path of light.
But his treatment in the hospital room with Shoto was so off for me, so nonchalantly asking if Endevour burned Shoto’s face, as if he hadn’t made it clear that he was going to be on Endevour’s side either way really shows that Hawks needs to change a lot to see other things than his previously established opinions.
Hawks would definitely need to see Endevour as an abuser to really learn. Endevour is his focus point when it comes to heroes, which makes perfect sense given his backstory, but him putting Endevour on a pedestal is what is wrong with the whole hero society. They become symbols and signs and aren’t seen as people anymore, so they can’t do any wrong. And Endevour even confirmed Dabi’s story, so the next step for Hawks in a healthy way would be to acknowledge this dark side of Endevour instead of pushing it under the rug of: he wants to change, that is everything I need to know. Because it isn’t everything, if it was there would be no situation where Dabi can cause huge destruction to hero society with a video.
Which is why I am going to wait for a final judgement with what Hawks does next. It is rather critical for his character.
If he remains with his established opinions that led him to justifying the murder of Twice and being ride-or-die for Endevour no matter what Endevour did he’s part of the faulty society that needs to be changed by the end of the series.
But if he sees his own and Edevour’s faults he has room to grow and be a better person. Not be Icarus but rather turn around and fly back to earth before it is too late. That would mean he had a place in the new world after society is destroyed.
Of course because of his past he has a really hard time of letting go what the commission trained him to be, this established coding he has and I hope though Lady Nagant we’ll see more of those issues which could for example lead though Deku asking questions and we’d get a sign of what way Hawks storyline will go aswell.
In any version I can see Hawks want to fly free ending with him not having his wings anymore. Because Symbolism is cool and it works really well if you wings growing out of your back.
I just thought of Digimon Season 3 (my favorite, so sad though) and if you haven’t seen it here are heavy spoilers (and also it’s amazing, go watch it) the character Belzemon has a redemption ark during which he absorbs the Leomon of one of the children (and in season 3 Digimon they actually died) said child got captured and after Belzemon redeemed himself he used Leomon’s signature attack to break her free. And I could see a Toga/Hawks dynamic with this as a way to go. Fulfilling Twice wish for Toga to be save, something a hero would want: a little ill girl saved from the people who came to hurt her by a hero, as Twice did to Toga twice. But that is utter fan speculation with no actual basis; I just think that would be cool.
In general I don’t think there is a way this series ends without a compromise between the different side just because both do have their points that are important, but the general society that will come is said compromise. The hero’s aren’t wrong with wanting the lived of people save and the villains aren’t wrong with their want to change society and both sides definitely aren’t wrong with the want to use your quirk that is literally your body.
But how exactly is going to take a bit more time to unpack, also because there are some things we don’t have enough in-universe knowledge about yet., let alone Deku.
(Lady Nagant rat’s out hero issues to Deku please!)
I mean, I’d like a Endevour in prison ending, but I also doubt it. I can see him going for a self-sacrifice, which I hope doesn’t happen because then he looks too heroic again to save his kids and I doubt that it would help Dabi and this series is very much about helping and saving people.
For a time I had the notion that Best Jeanist and Twice were down to kill Dabi and Endevour would end up going against them, which I can still to some degree see, but that was mostly based on Twice death (“to prevent damage”) and Best Jeanist strangling Spinner (and Tomura, but I can’t blame him for that, they were literally in the middle of a crater that used to be a town) and has mellowed out more as the chapters went on, very much due to me not knowing shit about Best Jeanist’s thoughts on killing.
In order for the Todoroki’s to really cut ties with Endevour on their accord they’d also need to realize how much they were abused. They agree that Toya was abused, but Shoto and Natuso both definitely don’t see that they were abused aswell. And that again would be a long way to get there from the point the story is.
But I keep wishing for now with the information I have that Endevour will end up in prison and Hawks to land on his ass and really come to term with what he did to Twice and both to learn their lesson completly.
But on any instance that is a long way to go.
Anybody who has acess to raw scans and knowledge about Japanese to be of any help, because the translations of bnha 311 are saying very different things:
This is the first translation, where I want to point out the line about never stopping to smile and something missing in his soul are directed at AFO.
And Endevour clearly asks a question, which in japanese is indicated through a parcel, so if something is a question it should be obvious to see.
But then the other translation sais that the one with extra hatred is Shigaraki , same with the person that doesn’t stop laughing/smiling.
Which would make perfect sense to talk about Tomura because he is always smiling/ laughing, which can’t be said for AFO, the guy barely shows what is left of his face and none of them have any knowledge about AFO always laughing/smiling.
It would on the other hand make sense for AFO to have no hatred, but rather emptiness inside of him, but then the translation to laughing seems off. Wouldn’t it be rather something along the lines of laughing on the inside, thinking he is going to win no matter what (I lack the english word for what I mean right now.).
And Endevour isn’t asking a question here too, he is making a statement.
I can get behind differences like laughing/smiling or missing his soul/lack of heart, but there is a huge difference who they are talking about and Endevours statement/question about the person’s sould/heart.
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Leaned a slightly different version of 54321:
5 things you can see, 5 things you can hear, 5 things you can feel
Then you 4 things you can see, hear, feel
Going all the way down 3-2-1 until you only say/ think of 1 thing you can see, 1 thing you can hear and 1 thing you can feel.
You can use doubles, you can make noise, you can say everything out loud or just think it and if you can not see anything imagine the things around you and you can touch yourself or put gentle pressure on your body to feel a new feeling.
Anti anxiety.
Lady Nagant: tells Deku that the Comission had her as a assasin for people who did not yet commit any crimes. Lady Nagant: tells Deku the Comission sent her to kill pro heroes who abused their power. Lady Nagant: tells Deku the chairman of the Comission tried to kill her for wanting to retire. Deku: You killed the chairman? That’s not what I was told. Like that’s the part you’re focusing on right now? Really?
Was my first reaction, but: This is really interesting, because it does sound to a degree that Deku did not truely listen until what she said went against something he was explictly told. So anything before was her story, but that chairman’s death was either public knowledge or Deku knew from Hawks and it went directly against something Deku was told.
So Deku had aquired the knowledge of the chairman’s death by something other than Lady Nagant while she was working as a pro hero. (Which means they most likely had her declared dead or something, instead of admitting that a pro hero went rouge, which obviously they would not do, but it’s nice to get confirmation that the comission has been sweeping issues under the rug for very long.)
And he asks Lady Nagant about it, to get more information.
That means Deku is actually questioning the world he lives in and I am here for that. This is the progression I have been waiting for.
Also this chapter is pretty amazing in general.
Anyone else think that Mr. Compress would be a better fit villain for Uraraka than Toga? From what we know he is the great-great-grandson of the peerless thief that stole money from wealthy pro heroes and gave it to civilians and that Atsuhiro himself follows his path of exposing the corruption and injustice of the pro heroes. By the way Oji Harima is still considered one of the worst crimials even though the guy is literally the Robin Hood of BNHA.
- Used to be a magician who was barely scraping along. Is what HK said about Mr. Compress’s past, that is so far (bnha 315) all we have of his past.
And considering his theatrical ways you’d think he was a good magician.
My guess here would be that he wasn’t allowed to use his quirk (who he definitly has full control over, so no need to persume he’d be a threat to accidentally injure someone) so he was stuck doing card tricks we have in our world or something similar. That lead to him seeing pro heroes getting money for using their quirks, despite doing actual damage even (I mean Mount Lady in a big city, really?), while he had to find ways to live a basic live, because he wasn’t allowed to use his quirk for magic tricks to make a living. Which lead to him persuing his great-great-grandfathers ways of taking money, just more in a Jesse James way of stealing from the rich, but keeping for himself.
Which leads me back to Uraraka.
Her driving focus of becoming a pro hero is to help her family financially, to the point where she skips meals to save money. While her want to become a hero was already there for other reasons, this is her motivation: to keep her family financially secure, because pro heroes make good money.
Besides the fact that Uraraka’s backstory is an early sign of flaws within the hero society it would make her be a perfect antagonist for Atsuhiro Sako, who’s literal lineage is: pro heroes make too much money, while civilians are too poor to live.
On the other hand someone who has control issues with his quirks that lead to others being endangered like Tokoyami would be a better fit for Toga (also Hawks killed Twice, Tokoyami is Hawks student, would make for some amazing conflict).
Tywin: It’s so much more humane to kill a few nobles at dinner.
Any sane person thinking: You let the Mountain set the Riverlands on fire like a week ago. Also everyone is still dying because of the wedding.
when tywin justifies the red wedding by saying it was a way to win the war ‘cheaply’ but actually he unleashed a blood curse upon the land and shattered the entire chivalric paradigm. [walder frey voice] heh
12 central traits of heroism featuring My Villain Academia
Psychologists have also identified the traits of heroes. Elaine Kinsella and her colleagues have identified 12 central traits of heroism, which consist of:
brave,
[Bravery is the ability to confront something painful or difficult or dangerous without any fear. It’s a quality, not a state of mind; it doesn’t need a cause to awaken it. Someone is brave—full stop.]
moral integrity,
[Integrity is the practice of being honest and showing a consistent and uncompromising adherence to strong moral and ethical principles and values.In ethics, integrity is regarded as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one's actions.]
conviction,
[conviction (kənvɪkʃən ) Word forms: plural convictions 1. countable noun [usu N that] A conviction is a strong belief or opinion. ]
courageous,
[Courage, on the other hand, is the ability to confront something painful or difficult or dangerous despite any fear. It’s not a quality, but a choice; a person feels the fear or pain or danger, but chooses to persevere anyway. Unlike bravery, courage is driven by a cause; the courageous person believes that cause is worth standing up and fighting for, despite all the clear reasons not to. It takes a great effort, because what’s on the other end merits it. ]
self-sacrifice,
[sacrifice of oneself or one's interest for others or for a cause or ideal]
protecting,
[to keep someone or something safe from injury, damage, or loss]
honest,
[ To be honest (= To tell the truth) ]
selfless,
[ concerned more with the needs and wishes of others than with one's own; unselfish. ]
determined,
[ showing the strong desire to follow a particular plan of action ]
saves others,
[1: to stop (someone) from dying or being killed : to rescue (someone) who is in terrible danger 2.informal : to help (someone) in an important way —often used to thank someone for his or her help]
inspiring,
[inspiring(Adjective) Providing inspiration; encouraging; stimulating.]
and helpful.
[adjective giving or rendering aid or assistance; of service]