GOD She'd Have Nothing Then She Can't Play The Guitar Anymore And If She Stops Enjoying Space Because

GOD she'd have nothing then 😭 she can't play the guitar anymore and if she stops enjoying space because the memories are too painful? everything would hurt 😭

wait oh my god

what if Ellie stops liking space because of the golfing 😭😭😭 she stopped liking Halloween because of what happened with Riley, so it could be a very real possibility 😭

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born to always mourn the present like it’s already become a memory

once again thinking about how Dina and Ellie didn't know what a pride flag was, but knew what a slur was :(

That whole ‘violent heart’ thing pissed me off so much. Was it even in the game?

I remember listening to the official podcast after that episode aired and it made me so mad.

They toned down on the violence for season 1, so it seems they’re looking for ways to explain why Ellie is so violent in the future seasons, and it irritates me.

They can just easily pin it on the post-apocalyptic world and Ellie’s grief, but for some reason they had to say her assaulter was right?? Ugh it’s just so gross

it pisses me off so much. I don't think it's in the game? they just added that to make him Worse.

I listened to the podcast afterwards, but that one specifically made me mad, too. there's just so many things to this. I think it's the fact they were able to get into David's head? so the whole podcast for the episode just feels like an extension of it, if that makes sense?

I agree! and also never thought of that being why they toned down the violence. I hate it. they don't really need to explain why Ellie is so violent in the next seasons. you don't need to do that! her father figure was brutally murdered right in front of her! and in this post-apocalyptic world, what else is she meant to do? I think violence has a very different meaning in this setting cause you have to be violent sometimes. we can clearly see that Ellie doesn't want to be violent - Bethany started that fight. yes, Ellie turned it physical, but Bethany started that. with Riley, she did what she had to and we're leaving it at that. with Bryan, it was between him and Joel. she doesn't know Bryan, and, obviously, he's a threat. if she didn't shoot him, Joel could've been seriously injured. but even with her shooting him, it wasn't to kill. it was in his back, he maybe could've survived that. with David, she was completely in the right. he was a complete and utter threat to everything about her, she did what she needed. but with all of this, not all of them were that violent. like, only one of these things was deadly. she doesn't have a violent heart and I hate hate hate that they're trying to say that she does, in order to set up the next seasons. what she did and what she ends up doing isn't because she has a violent heart. it's because she's trying to avenge her father figure, but you can clearly see the effects it's having on her. if she did have a violent heart, she wouldn't be taken aback like she is

exactly! trying to say her assaulter was right??? so fucking disgusting and why would they even say that?? she grew up in a post-apocalyptic world, but she's still affected by what she's done. that isn't a violent heart.

What are your thoughts on them changing up the show to have Joel not find Ellie while she’s killing David?

mmm I enjoy it

I really do love that Ellie got to get all her anger and grief and everything out without Joel taking her off the body. and you know, that hug in the snow. EUEUEUE THE HUG IN THE SNOW. I'm love that one. but also? Joel taking Ellie off of him and having a MUTED conversation??? to show that Joel will be there for her when she needs him? mmmm I love both of those scenes and I think they fit their respective medias :)

tbh when Joel found Ellie, in both medias, I think was him showing he'd be there for her whenever she needed. cause in the show, she was checking out before he found her. and then in the game, he wanted her out of there and reassured she was okay and DDD: