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I agree completely.

Honestly, I completely ship Miles x Gwen (nobody can see ATSV and NOT do it) but that’s not the focus of the movie. Whoever obsesses over it misses the big picture.

One thing I can’t reconcile about them just jumping in into being a couple is that if you do the math, they have spent less than a month together. They hardly know each other, and that’s the sad truth. Does Miles know Gwen’s favourite color? Does Gwen know Miles’s favourite foods?

But I would say they know enough about each other to love each other, with potential for so much more. Obviously they long for each other, but not in the romantic sense at all. Their theme is FRIENDSHIP. Gwen can’t lose another FRIEND, not another LOVER.

Even with all this, it’s obvious that Gwen loves Miles, and that Miles loves Gwen, and that they missed each other a lot. They’re also definitely crushing on each other. But don’t focus on the romance so much you miss the true beauty of their story: their friendship that spans across universes. They’re both lonely and they both found support in each other (as short as those ten minutes of screen time were)

Anyway, that enough ranting for now lol. Cya!

Edit: I personally wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s toxic, but them becoming a couple with as many problems as they have would definitely NOT go well. If they want to have any chance of being together and keeping this precious friendship, they both need growth, which is why in BTSV they would have to reconcile early in the movie if we want any hope of obvious romance, though since that may appear forced, I’m more inclined to believe that they’ll just end on a more hopeful note instead.

gwiles rant cuz i can and i have free speech (AMERICA ‼️‼️‼️‼️)

ok so yes im not that big on shipping and i think its toxic and rewatching atsv for like the third time it had me thinking a LOT about them in the first hour

as we know gwen misses miles and miles misses gwen yada yada yada we know that already thats no surprise

but the thing that gets me is when they first reunite it started as friendly, like ‘hey! i haven’t seen you in a minute, how are you? tell me what’s happened in the last year.’ and then when they got to the clocktower and gwen stated ‘in every other universe gwen stacy falls for spiderman, and in every other universe it doesnt end well.’ and it slowly falled into something more romantic and something blooming that they wanna be a little more than friends

THE OTHER THING IS when we distinguish canon from fanon, i feel like some people make it seem like they were hopelessly in love since the ending of itsv which isnt true, cause when youre a loner and basically have no friends i dont think you tend to jump to love when you meet someone else, but i dont doubt they have a connection

so basically: fanon is more dramatic and straight forward than canon (this is very obvious ☠️) (i mean fandoms are supposed to source delusions so)

as gwiles as a whole, i dont think they’ll get together in btsv cause i cant really imagine a scenario that stays in line with the original plot of the trilogy

so i think theyll stay friends but share a lil sumn sumn at the ending like a hug or smooch maybe

i think people forget that love as a whole doesnt always mean romantic, you love your friends, family, etc. and they love each other somewhere inbetween platonic and romantic but idk we will see in btsv if they shift to one side or the other (pav’s ‘will they wont they?’ kinda foreshadows this)

the thing is i feel like their relationship is very confusing

like when you look at it from the screen’s pov it really just seems like they miss each other and wanna be friends and have a possible do-over

but when you look at it from say rio’s pov when shes fixing miles up to go see her, you can see that miles likes her a whole lot and doesnt want to be separated from her again

its honestly just a matter of perspective

plus sony is playing us theyre letting us see them as romantic and platonic

STOP HATING ON GWEN STACY

I deleted Tumblr off my phone so I’m suffering through the web browser for this, but I just read another one of those fanfictions and it’s DRIVING ME NUTS!!!

Yes, Gwen broke Miles’s trust. Yes, they will have to rebuild their friendship.

BUT SHE DIDNT DO THE WRONG THING

Think about it. Gwen is homeless. Gwen is alone. She has been failed by every single adult in her life. She can’t go back to her world—her dad was pointing a gun at her when she left. What is she supposed to do? if she even sets foot in Miles’s universe without permission, she will be homeless.

but let’s go to the main point:

GWEN ACTUALLY BELIEVED SHE WAS DOING THR RIGHT THING

Miguel saved her. She trusted him. And he told her that Miles was an anomaly, that his dad was going to die, and that her dad was going to die, and if they tried to go against it the world would end. She is SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD for crying out loud!! You can’t put that on her shoulders. She probably thought she was protecting Miles by staying away—except she couldn’t stay away, not forever.

Gwen doing the wrong thing? That wasn’t not talking to Miles. She thought she was protecting him. She knew he’d try to save his dad, and she really believed his entire world would collapse—maybe even with him in it.

Miles was better without Gwen Stacy messing up his life, wasn’t he?

and, finally, the last point:

GWEN BELIEVED MIGUEL’S PROPAGANDA SO BADLY THAT SHE DIDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT HER OWN DAD

we know Gwen adores her dad, even after the gun incident (you can see it in ATSV when Miles confronts her about it) it breaks her heart. But she was so brainwashed by Miguel that for even the person she probably loves the most in the world, she wasn’t going to do anything—lest their universe collapse.

Maybe Gwen did betray Miles’s trust. But he never got to hear her side of the story. So I’m sick of these fanfictions featuring Gwen grovelling for his forgiveness, because Gwen isn’t the criminal, she’s the victim, and while they do need to talk the only person that should be grovelling is Miguel.