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I live-!

It’s only been a day or two since I’ve posted; but that’s just because I’ve been doing school things and all that jazz; but I feel like there’s some cool things I should share; because really I think people just like having an unspoken community and support of other people who like writing for Octavian- and I love him too, but there’s only so much I can say about him without talking about my OC (who I love talking about, but no one really cares lol) however what I am going to do; seeing as I’m reading,

The Iliad; almost finished with it, and I’ll probably say some things (for any specifications I’m talking about the penguin deluxe version; translated by Robert Fagles)

The Odyssey; haven’t started yet, but I’ll do more update and post as I read versus the sort of retrospective I have to do with the Iliad

The Aeneid; I’ll read it after the Odyssey, and I’m excited because Rome is one of my special interests :] (it’s the best way I can put it, but Rome and the PJO franchise are my special interests) and I’m excited to just read a like good Segway into more older literary readings!

My class is also reading the first PJO book (tLT) and I’ve been annotating my personal copy (just sticky note flags) and I’ll probably talk about it (and just generally re-visit the OG series and see how my opinions have changed; if Luke still gets to be the favorite from the first series) so I’ll probably talk about that (Chapter 17 and Chapter 20 are my favorites and I get to read them!! Along with Chapter 21 which is rad too B])

TSOA; I’m holding off on reading The Song Of Achilles (mostly because I’m too scared to pick up my copy and actually read) but when I do work up my courage I’ll report back (just begging Thetis isn’t as bad as people tell me they interpreted her as)

ToA; wild I haven’t read Trials of Apollo I know; but I had to pause it to read the Iliad, Odyssey, and Aeneid- so I’ll get back to that and I’m really excited to, because of the Emperors and my (personal) favorite Emperor shows up (it feels weird to say I have a favorite Roman Emperor, but he’s really the one I like reading the most on, because I find him interesting; and no, I won’t be admitting it at the moment)

All of the companion books to PJO/HoO/ToA; not any of the spin-off series, but things like the guide books, Demigod Diaries/files, Greek Gods, Greek heroes, those ones :]

tKC(?); the Kane Chronicles, I’ll probably end up reading Magnus Archives first (because guys I heard Pansexual representation in Magnus and I need a new character to giggle about and I really wanna see Alex and TJ. Jr (feels like such a random and specific character but I’m just excited to see the silly)

Magnus Archives; as I said instead of talking about the Kane Chronicles (I might have to read the Graphic novels for those because the first chapter book could not hold my attention span but the first graphic novel did)

Also Sun and The Stars; I totally didn’t forget about this because I genuinely have an irrational dislike toward Nico; even though I love him I still disagree on a character level for him to kill off two characters I really like (one of which only gets like 2 pages of screen time) but I’ll try because I want more Bob content and I want it now! Also my friend marked all the Mr. D pages for me and that’s very nice

That’s all the books I can think of at the moment; then I have some projects too-

Lorica Hamanata(?); I’m too lazy currently to go look up the spelling, but I am working on making the Chestplate and I’ll probably fill people in while I do so

Cardboard Riptide; I’m making Riptide out of Cardboard! Haven’t worked on it in a while but I am :] I’ll show pics when I’m done

The Camp Jupiter/HoO/Maybe-just-Pjo/HoO/ToA re-imaging; uhhh, im working on it; I don’t know how many people want to see some random internet users re-imaginings of things like this- but I like having it down someplace

Probably more Octavian Sillies; I’ll probably write more on Octavian; he’s my favorite fictional character in general, I relate to him probably a little more than I should and I just like talking about my thoughts on him!

Calliope- my OC that got some posts that only my friend saw; she is probably a bad character but I love her and I think publicly showing her process is a good way to just improve my writing skills; which segways nicely to,

The Nine Au/HoO Au/ me and my friend arbitrarily shove our OCs into the seven and I try to make it make sense with their narrative arcs/ we also put a bunch of our different Ocs in there as background characters so there are minor characters; pretty much what I just said; my friend runs a mainly art-blog, but just know we both are working on this, and I do really want to talk about this because we put hard work into it and I want to share it

Okay; you (random audience I’ve decided that I apparently have) probably don’t care, and just like seeing me go ‘hehe this is Octavian, I like Rome :3’ and I also like doing that- but these are things I genuinely want to do and use my blog for!

(I’m also going to make a post about my headcanons on Camp Jupiter kids fatal flaws hc soon👀)

Anyway, byeeeeee!!

Brief update-

I was working on the C.J characters fatal flaw (and maybe general hc?) sheet, but I kinda want to work on more of just HoO and Camp Jupiter re-imagined (or Au? I don’t know at this point) because I really want to work on the ranking system and etc, because I think shoving my (probably subpar research) on the legion system and ranks within said system through the time of the Roman legions; shoving it all into a blender and finding what works for my Camp Jupiter and telling the world about it!

Also I just really want to learn more about Rome and putting my independent learning into a project like this is a good way to show myself my own comprehension of the system- and I’ll probably start trying to work with the Cohorts too,

Because currently my interpretation is acting like just- mini Roman army where the modern Romans are so stubborn that they won’t say it’s not just the one legion- though I probably won’t (no promises) I feel at this point I might be changing Camp Jupiter/New Rome, almost too much- hence why I feel it’s fully a Re-Imagining of the Concept of Romans and Roman demigods inside of the established world of PJO; and I want to take my stab at it; so uh, aside from that very long tangent

I might just take a step back and plan more of the basic, core concept that I want for Re-Imagining of Camp Jupiter and New Rome

But uh, I’ll get back to everyone on what I do end up doing :]

I have no idea if like; people can comment? But uh, hey if anyone has any ideas or anything that they want to take the time to write down and say. I have begun this project from my own interest of something that, from what I’ve read at least and how my brains chosen to characterize it; feels like it could be improved- and I usually take ideas from the community of things they mention along with Camp Jupiter/ New Rome, to form more ideas off of it.

And just because I want to mention it as what I thought of when hearing of the Gladiator war game type

The coliseum is inside of New Rome (as shown in the Camp Jupiter Confidential: Probatios journal map) so I like to think that the legion both uses it for the war games and valuable practice and as entertainment for New Romans and a way to show ‘how cool the legion is!’ To younger New Rome residents that (already will go to Camp) but a way to have little kids excited to go serve their duty in a sort-of brainwashing way- but New Rome/ Camp Jupiter already has a bunch of Brainwashing type things

This probably is generally accepted, and not a new idea but I just wanted to share it while it was in my head :]

Old books And Ye olde Camp Jupiter

NOTE!! The actual stuff about PJO is about 5 paragraphs in; so if you want to slip my bad rambling about two very old epics, I have it headed)

I’ve been reading the Iliad (just finished it, still try to spell it with two L’s 😎) and I’m working on the first books of the Odyssey (with Telemachus doing his thing) and I’ll say; first it was an actual joy, a riot, a rollercoaster, to read the Iliad. There has been very few books where I’ve laughed as much in character dialogue interactions (that sounds so funky but I genuinely did giggle about it) and it was just so silly goofy and fun, and I have it annotated so I can start talking about certain things

And I’ve just started the Odyssey; which it certainly does feel like a sequel (that sounds mean, but it feels the same way that reading daughter of the moon goddess and then heart of the sun warrior; amazing books by the way, go pick them up)

And it’s really fun to consume some version of the original stories and Epics and comparing it to media created with it (I say that like I’ll talk about more than just PJO and the literary choices Rick made on how to interpret and use the gods and stuff. I still am getting around to reading TSOA but it scares me man)

But, I really don’t know what I’m trying to get at

Just that the books are fun and it is generally super fun and interesting to read and even though the first few books of the Odyssey are feeling a bit like a Jason or Piper chapter; I’m pushing through to read Odysseus and his journey; and so I can eventually get to the Aeneid and annoy my friends even more with fun things about Rome and giggle in my classes;

Where the Pjo starts)

Along with that! I’d want to talk more about pre-modern CHB and CJ; seeing as my history class is going through the slog that is colonial history currently and I need someway to stimulate my brain other than writing facts about Mainz Gladius while people are talking about the Salem Witch Trials (my class is feral and gross and they have a big lack of nuance and maturity to think and process the events without being absolute idiots- that sounds mean but they’re annoying and I need to vent)

But I’d like to say there are things we know basically about sides that Greeks and Romans sided on; and because I apparently allergic to discussing Greek demigods at the moment, I’m listing Rome :3

We know that in PJO Roman demigods and the Roman side tends to want to side with rising empires almost inherently; or just rising… things. *cough, cough, the Confederacy, cough, cough*. But aside from that; we can base the ideas that,

1) we can probably confirm that there was a drop in Greco-Roman demigod participation in wars out of the Americas after it (the pantheon and the majority of the demigod groups) moved; though we can probably confirm until after North America became a Economic powerhouse that if following Riordanverse canon; that the Gods moved to New York (if we want to push it, they probably were in Massachusetts in the late 1600s the earliest in America; though I’d say they hadn’t moved until America started like doing good in like what post WII? I think-?)

*A note that is for my Re-imagining, I am seriously considering not moving Pantheons from their native lands; since that leaves a kind of bad taste in my mouth and it makes the Gods and Olympus almost… too accessible for demigods; in the most likely case I’ll pull the Greek Pantheon back onto Olympus in Greece (and I will probably make a point that American demigods can and usually when they need to get to Olympus on their own, can access Olympus through the Olympic mountain range in Washington; I am in Washington, and therefore biased, along with that being the OLYMPIC mountain ranges, I mean, it’s RIGHT THERE guys; how could I not capitalize.) and I might possible move CJ over to being in Italy (though I like the Idea of having CJ just being right there in the Bay Area; before reading tLO and just hearing about them, I thought they were located in Italy, and this all depends on what I do once I start storyboarding Re-imagined) anyway, back on topic,

2) that I’d assume for the most part, as we see that New Rome likes setting Camps up 1) in the west, and 2) near rivers (and we can probably infer it would be somewhat closer to the Equator, or a warmer area). That I think the most likely place that in the Colonial Americas, Romans settled could be,

(This is all using names from Colonial times of Colonies)

A) in British Honduras (Belize); along the Belize river. As we know that Romans supported the British during the revolutionary war, it follows my criteria of being in a warmer climate, and near a river; though it isn’t exactly west, though in proportion to where the early Greek settlers would be, it certainly works, but it puts them far from the revolutionary and just USA so probably not; it’s the middle choice.

B) in New Spain (specifically the portion of California); along the Sacramento River. As Spain was a rising empire at some moment, it is along a river, warm climate, and certainly west. The fact that the Romans would have to be in American territory to still fight in the civil war; so this would be one of my more outlandish concepts.

C) in North Carolina (or just Carolina depending on the time) along the Cape Fear river. This puts them along a river, warm climate, not west but it would be in the direct opposite (as I’d put Greek demigods hiding out amongst the northern colonies or the middle colonies even) and it puts them both in a heavily loyalist (or a colony that supported being part of the British empire) colony; where it would be fitting for them to fight on the side of the Brits, AND a colony that would be in the Confederacy; meaning that they would be in prime position for both wars; I am quite proud of this, and if I needed to put a direct town as example for an area for Romans; I’d say Fayetteville, I’d put the legions settlement across from Fayetteville- in that strip of land between the main Cape Fear river and the river breaking off called south river I think. I am very proud of this one

But yeah! This post originally was going to be about the Iliad and the Odyssey; but I got side-tracked so there are some of my Colonial New Rome ideas, uh, I hope people see the sort of effort I put in for figuring out geological locations for ideas of Camp Jupiter; I might make a post of just a timeline for where Camp has been located through the years- it’s a fun little thought experiment, id also say pre- really big colonialism of the Americas, that the Romans temporarily were first with Spain (I didn’t chose Portugal despite the fact that during that time they had the whole seafaring empire thing, but the Greeks would totally be supporting them) then the Romans go with the British Empire, briefly go down to the confederacy, then stick with America.

I’m sobbing

We’ve finally finished the lightning thief in my English class, now we’re watching the first movie to compare with it; wherein I also get to see the Peter Johnson movie for the first time, we were given like papers to compare with the book and movie while we watched the movie; I was seated over in the back in the class, and I was working very hard to write down my thoughts… which turned into a very biased hypercritical (I think?) note taking session on things I didn’t like about the movies. I apologize for not putting a transcript down for the pictures below, but it was a long period of just yelling into my paper and silently apologizing to my braincells that had to be subjected to the movie, I mention in the photos what I consider bad writing (and several times I think I scribble out show don’t tell) and to note that I’m not a like writing genius that knows movies, but they kind of just… word vomit things at the viewer in like a 5 minute speed round that is like fact after fact and I was sitting there still thinking about the Mrs. Dodds scene, and they make the gods very involved? If that’s the right sentiment, if you get what I mean,

I live!

Aaaa- okay, I haven’t posted in.. a while. And that. Is probably because I’ve generally been a little unmotivated, I’m gonna stop making the maps for a little because they are draining and I’m not very interested in it for a moment so they can be put on the back burner. What I will be doing though, is working on the ranking revamp- it’s a (very unsurpsing) shocker that Roman military ranks are a little confusing (I’ve had to re-read some articles like 15 times and I’m gonna first try and find some diagrams that will present me with an easy place to begin branching).

But I have been halting my posting for a bit because I have been, pretty busy. Just got to quarter 2 of school, and a lot of work. We had to write a narrative so I tried out my cool character for a spin and was working on integrating my Re-imagine of CJ inside it- I got to mention Fontus so that was a pretty rad day.

And I love Thomas Jefferson JR From Magnus chase. When I read the books know that he will be the main reason I will read. Live, laugh, love TJ Jr.

But sorry- I have a lot going on. And a lot of people don’t really read this stuff for super transformative content, but I still feel a little bad for not putting things out-

Anyway, next thing that I pinky promise I’ll work on is talking about Bryce Lawerence. He’s only mentioned in BoO and I have strong opinions on him. He’s also my 6th favorite character; don’t come for me.

And maybe after that or inside it- a Michael Varus thing. Since I made my main OC directly related to him there’s no doubt that I do really like him, and I’m a little sad they like- kind of fell short with the opportunity to use him and stuff (Most of my HC are just my fabrication because we know actually nothing about him!!)

Plus here’s some art of updated (my OC) Mercury 👀,

Guys I think i caught something, I had to go home from school because I was shivering, had a high temp, runny nose, my throat hurt, my everything felt tingly for no reason, my nerves were very sensitive (idk if that’s like the proper way to explain it) I’ve just been under a heated blanket for two hours knocked out and I still have goosebumps and I feel weird and my heads weird idk-

But I’m sorry that the two people that find interest in my character talks (looking at you @spheroz 🤩) that I will probably not get the Michael Varus post out in a while, and that my Bryce Lawerence post wasn’t my finest work, I was half asleep while finishing it.

Thank the Gods for autocorrect while writing this, and let’s hope I feel better because I still have like 3 more pages to write for my English assignment.

I’ve been drawing for around 2-3 hours straight. I was gonna draw some runaway Luke, Thalia, and Annabeth stuff- since I had been drawing a lot, then I look to my hand, and the most egregious like writer’s bump or whatever is engraved into my finger like a mouse just shoved its nose there and my finger forgot to snap back into place, I decided to draw my artist rendition of what I saw,

I would like to note that I am left-handed but that face seemed to have eluded me while drawing this.

But I did get to draw some Dakota and Gwendolyn artwork, which got me actually thinking about Gwen- I don’t think we ever knew her Godrent, I think making her a child of Fontus (idk if that conflicts with any established lore or any actual mythology I just like the concept of child of obscure god that no one usually bothers to mention being a Centurion and leaving right after the other water-related kid is brought to camp is funny)

Anyway I think I’ll take a break on drawing, and I might want to actually talk about the new trailer because I saw it and ASHFBSINFEJSKAN- I know people are worried and cautious of it, but other then all 4s Minotaur (and Mrs.Dodds but it’s Disney) I think it looks pretty rad, I’m really excited, the split second shot of Medusa also looked sick, and I’m super excited to see them all in a relatively good live action, my bar is that it’s above the 1st Peter Johnson movies- which, opinions, the 2nd is only a little better if you don’t watch the like extra 50 minutes of dragged out runtime and just end it after Luke Luke’s everywhere and says the funny things.

ALSO THE MUSICAL

NOTHING ELSE BUT ITS RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD

I HAVE EVERY SONG MEMORIZED THIS MAY BE AN ISSUE

Brief Michael Kahale questions,

In SoN I we’re told that Centurions have to serve at least 5 years as a legionnaire before becoming a Centurion

And we Know that Michael Kahale was a linebacker in highschool, meaning more importantly that he went to highschool. But, like-

Michael is strongly implied to also be a teenager- I don’t like the idea of a like 23 year old Michael running around with a lot of 16 year olds and being close friends with 18 year old Octavian; and it strongly is implied that he is of similar age of Octavian.

But he went to highschool. And like- it at least feels like he had a year or two of highschool, enough to be recognizable in his linebacker situation and as a demigod to be scouted by Octavian’s father,

Which like, if we go 18 year old Michael kahale- or even 19 year old Michael Kahale at the oldest (though I always like making him 17, this is my own hc and I will not be including it) Anyway- if we go 19 Michael, he’d have to join the legion at 14; which, not impossible, some kids will be entering freshman year as 14 year olds, but- like- WHAT??

It feels, wrong to say it was fresh faced little baby Michael; Reyna makes it feel like he is newer to the legion, and that most of his bulk was Linebacker stuff.

But that implies that he ALSO broke the 5 year rule, that were told is super duper important and is rare to be broken- but really it feels like a lot of people broke it.

Frank obviously did, it’s an improtant plot point. I don’t think we get confirmation that Praetor’s also have this rule, but I feel like they do- and in that case then Percy and maybe Reyna both break that, then now Michael Kahale. Really it feels like no one really cares about this rule if we have this many examples of named characters that don’t follow this rule- not including any side characters were given that would make sense (very thankful that they did not hand over Dakota’s tattoo details so we could reasonably say that he got to the legion at 11 like Octavian, and actually properly followed the explicitly said rules about ranks) Also Hazel! She was at least at the camp for a year before HoO I think, and then only what, another year passes for ToA, she, at the most- could have around 3 years of service and I am only going off of memory here-

Literally no one cares about this 5 year rule unless we imply that 23 year old Kahale is running around and that makes me uncomfortable!

Anyway I’m gonna go to sleep now because I have to go to school tomorrow, good night- if anyone has any actual good explanation for this other than the continuous lack of characterization and attention paid to Camp Jupiter and the concepts presented in Camp Jupiter; I’d love to hear it

CAMP JUPITER MAP-

A new fire has been lit inside me, that fires name is spite and Vanilla Coke.

After having to think and consider the sheer amount of balls dropped when in relation to Camp Jupiter, I am no longer going to try and fit my map to Camps perceived, described, layout. It just- it is just hurting my brain, and I’d want it to be somewhat more accurate to how actual Roman Legions had camps to fit into my perceived image of Camp- and therefore it is totally not a canon compliant map, that is taking into consideration camp descriptions.

It is going to be a map mixed from actual Roman legion camps, my mental image of camp, buildings that are mentioned in the canon that must be there, buildings that feel stupid to not be there (*ahem* some sort of medical center, I know it’s probably in Probatio’s journal but I don’t have the mental capacity to read a book where they name the daughter of Janus, JANICE! Though I like the artstyle, it looks pretty nice.)

But yeah, I’m a little upset, or uh, fired up- a mix of getting to talk about the absolute lack of world building and character building and consideration put into the Roman’s has caught up with me. And i still have to figure out New Rome stuff but New Rome makes me upset so CAMP!

Camp is nicer to my brain because Camp doesn’t give me questions like, “what are food producers doing, does New Rome get food from mortal farms. Is American government aware of the Camps existence??” Which is a can of worms I do not want to open in any way shape or form, therefore camp gets to go first because it’s easier to just research actual proper Roman legion camps and not whatever we are fed in the books (like the lack of description on general size of camp, I have no perception on how big any building is, it confuses me. Where Temple hill may be- seeing as we manage to pass the FIELDS OF MARS on our way from Camps main area to the Temples; Hazel and Percy can see them building the War game fort while walking to the Temples which does a whole different thing for mapping, AND NOT CONSIDERING THE CONCEPT OF ALL THE TEMPLES JUST BEING IN THEIR OWN AREA, AND ALL OF THIS BEING IN THE BAY AREA)

Okay, I am upset, I am worked up- I will be now going to my paper, best of luck to me, because I’ve tried this 75 times but now that I’m not worrying about canon hopefully this will be better.

ALSO THERE WILL BE A POST ON CENTURIONS. OR JUST POSITIONS OF POWER IN CAMP, BECAUSE REVELATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT JUST LEAD TO MORE WEIRD QUESTIONS AND THE PRAETOR HIGHEST RANK CHOICE IS CERTAINLY A CHOICE THAT WAS MADE AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT IT BASED ON MY BASIC KNOWLEDGE-

Okay, have a good day^^

The Camp Jupiter thing.

That is a vague title, but ‘The various reasons that we have gotten fundamental rules about the ascendancy in Camp Jupiter due to the list of characters we were given’ this post has turned into ‘Various reasons I’m sad about canon Camp Jupiter’

I will note I just go off on like 50 tangents through this post, bear with me. And I forget what I was talking about halfway through. But hey! Long post :D also I’m reading through this and note I am not serious about this, I am cannonically a silly Kerropi and Choco cat hugging on the internet that talks about how much I like Rome and this fictional franchise- please don’t take anything I say too seriously, I can’t put up good arguments without actually trying to format my points in a argumentative essay format. This is just me typing words and thinking it’s good enough.

This takes into account that I have not read ToA yet because for some reason the hidden oracle falls under the same problem that I had with reading TLT or tTC; which is very slow first chapters that are hard to get through :[ So nothing other than what I know about ToA Camp Jupiter stuff (which is dubious) won’t be talked about; sadly including characters that are fully introduced in ToA and their issues, though I’ll probably mention them or something.

Okay, these are claims, but I’ve now decided to dedicate my bus ride to this issue that I’ve realized (that probably is well known and whatever) while those are a couple things,

First and the most well-known Camp Jupiter thing is lack of characterization, or at least consistent characterization (the first cohort),

Aside from our POVs I feel that (and I think most of what I’ve seen from the community) the characters don’t have much of any Characterization, and not in a like ‘these characters don’t have complex narratives and that means they suck >:[‘ but in the fact that they don’t have.. much of anything? Comparing them to Camp Half-Blood seems the best, some of the side characters we see there like Clarisse La Rue, Charles Beckendorf, Silena Beauregard, and Thalia Grace, and more I can’t think about right now all have noticeable to somewhat noticeable arcs, and clear characterization and more than just 2D personalities. (I don’t focus on Camp Half-Blood nearly enough to give rundowns of them and I don’t have room, but note that every single CHB character mentioned has at least 1 B plot and is important to the narrative)

Now, let’s look at Camp Jupiter characters were given (that don’t end up POVs because they obviously have to be given complex personalities.. to which degree it is effective and how they chose to use those personalities is probably a different post) but we have characters that get Characterization like,

Octavian; A character set up to be some form of threat, even though repeatedly we are shown that, despite what traits were told he has, are shown a different character. Who then in the next books is played for laughs because the community didn’t like him enough and is eventually killed off without a solid reason to be killed off. He is set up to be a threat and told to be a threat, but showed to be incompetent and played for comedic value to varying sucess (don’t set up a character as a villain that is said to be hard to deal with if you then turn around and have him beat in the first 5 pages and then continue to beat him again and again without any strain from your Protags)

Michael; We know nothing about him, we are told that he is ripped and that he is meant to be Octavian’s closed ally and confidant (that is slightly exaggerated but he is meant to be close to Octavian) then we see him remorselessly wave and say goodbye as Octavian is murdered and simply walk away (Also and exaggeration, but like- he’s not doing himself any favors)

Dakota; he’s not really given a personality that is distinct, and is played for an addiction joke before being killed off (I have no idea if he is given any character in ToA, but like..)

Bryce Lawerence; given the stereotypical traits for a psychopath, given 2 minutes of screen time to be un-menacing and then to have a horrific death.

I chose some of the worse options (also options of characters I hold dear to my heart and like talking about) but there are probably a plethora of other characters that can also be used as examples. The point is, comparing them to other secondary characters that are presented in the books. They are used situationally, for laughs, to fill in a menacing problem blank or be killed off, and for one of them (*cough, cough* OCTAVIAN *cough, cough*) they fit all of the boxes I have listed. Which sucks because it generally means that when thinking about Camp Jupiter characters, there is digging and a whole lot of interpreting you have to do to squeeze character and possible traits out of them. I’ve been ranting a lot and it’s hard to get what I’m trying to say typed, but I hope when I say ‘most characters were given are nothing burgers’ people understand what I’m trying to convey; that compared to other characters in the same universe that are written by the same author; Camp Jupiters characters are given so much less amazing characterization!

Also I don’t quite know where to put this; but the books treat Camp Jupiter with this mob mentality, but not in a like actual way; but in a ‘I think of them as just a hive mind instead of people with distinct personalities’ where again, in Camp Half-Blood they all have these somewhat distinct personalities and would react differently to situations, where Camp Jupiter, one of the Praetors would say something and then we wouldn’t care because there would be no mixed reaction. There is no CJ equivelant to the Apollo and Ares cabin having a tiff over a chariot, literally it’s just ‘we agree that the 5th sucks haha’. I consider this for one key reason; we aren’t introduced to enough characters in Camp Jupiter who have distinct personalities nor are we introduced to a big variety of characters! And most of the times we get a variety of characters is in probatio’s journal, an extra short story book that people who aren’t interested in Camp Jupiter. THAT I AGAIN MENTION NAMED A DAUGHTER OF JANUS JANICE!!! it’s not a big deal, it’s fine; but it bothers ME. It shouldn’t, it’s fun, it’s a short story but still.

Okay, okay. Second reason is the Centurion/position of power issue. NOT including Probatio’s journal (which I decided not to read before this) almost every single character in Camp Jupiter we are introduced to is or ascends to a position of power. We don’t get a ‘hi I’m Jerry and I’m just a legionnaire trying to work through’ even characters that don’t need to be in other positions of power like my example, Larry.

Larry is mentioned in the Senate scene of SoN, opposing Frank rising to Centurion-hood. Great, he can be one of the 10 elected senators we are told about and then we never have to talk about him again.

But, they had to make him the Centurion of the 2nd cohort. Okay, great, that’s fine- he just was cool enough to be elected as a senator.

But that’s not just it. Every single character that was mentioned there (not including Cato’s ghost which is wild but extremely funny in my opinion- no I will not be elaborating on why it is funny to me) was a centurion or in a position of power. Every named character was a Centurion, Praetor, or someone who ended up being a Centurion or Praetor (I don’t remember if we’re told names of Veterans, other senators, or if there is a character that was just mentioned without a secondary rank).

But, that itself is like, all fine and dandy. If this and the scene right before it didn’t throw around a bunch of rules during it. Which- with the combination of lack of named characters that were purely elected Senators, we ended up with mishaps like thinking the rule for Centurion’s that they had to serve 5 years in camp before being able to.. like be a centurion (if there is confirmation that the rule applies to Centurions somewhere else in the book please tell me) but no, the quote is just in relation to being a Senator. (I just realized but it doesn’t help that Dakota; our in the book closest source of info for Centurions also happens to be a Senator)

But Okay, so that- and then there is the obvious assumption that Centurions just also go and serve in the senate. Though- I don’t believe that is explicitly mentioned in the books- so not confirmed..? My memory is dubious though so this is a little more flimsy- BUT THE POINT-

The point is, that without any labeling or clear-cut rules that are told to us, it’s harder to know. In combination with the rules we were told being muddled up between the two roles, and it’s not helping when all the characters there mentioned in the senate end up being Centurions- it’s a mess.

I at this point, I have lost the whole point I was trying to talk about. But yeah. Camp Jupiter has a lot of problems, and suffers so much (in my opinion) from the lack of utilization. It makes me sad and upset, and now I have to go re-read Camp Jupiter’s parts in SoN to confirm… a lot of things that were wrong. And think a lot harder on things.

But yes. Camp Jupiter makes me so happy and then realizing Camp Jupiter isn’t written the best makes me very sad/upset/angry but yeah. Lets give Camp Jupiter better characterization and actual characters- yeah :D

I say this a lot in recent posts, but I am a little tired compared to when I wrote most of this and I feel like that’s obvious, but Camp Jupiter map is about.. 75-80% ish done. The first draft at least will be done by at the least, this weekend. I’ll probably either finish a Dionysus/Bacchus kids post I was working on, or start on that Michael Varus post, talk more about Larry because he’s so infrequent but is so silly. OR just talk more over Octavian or Bryce Lawerence because those two are genuinely some of my favorite characters and one (Bryce Lawerence) clearly has much less reason and content for me to like about him.

ALSO possibly Outsiders (the book by S.E Hinton) content coming up? I don’t know how much people like the Outsiders, but I like it. And if anyone wants to know; I’d probably be posting about Two-Bit, Dally, really any of the Greasers. Or Bob- the Soc that Johnny murdered. He is my 2nd favorite character. Yes that is so stupid but I love him too much for no good reason one day I just joked with a friend about Bob being my favorite and it came true-

UPDATE-?!?!?

I PINKY PROMISE ILL GET AN UPDATE ON THE MAP OUT BUT IVE FALLEN DOWN A RABBIT HOLE ON THE OUTSIDERS (JUST BOB SHELDON-) AND I CANT GET OUT

BUT WERE ON THE HOME STRETCH!!! JUST WORKING ON PLACING DOWN THE LOCATIONS OF BUILDINGS, WALLS, AND ROADS!!! BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS KINDA GOOD

EVERY COHORT HAS EVERY RIGHT TO HATE THE 5TH COHORT IT IS SO MEAN THAT THEY MADE IT AND ODD NUMBER CAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK WEIRD AS HELL TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE BARRACKS WITH EACH OTHER BUT I MIGHT JUST USE THE FOOD STORAGE TO BALANCE WITH THE 5TH’s BARRACKS

OKAY AAAAA-

I have no idea where this energy for all caps came from. But I haven’t really posted any content other than PJO (because that’s one of my main things and I don’t want to try and post anything about Rome because that is begging me to be so wrong about things I said) but the Outsiders is really silly and I need some way to talk about it even though I feel like there is like 0 fans that I’ve seen around

But I wanna talk about my favorite character! Who.. also happens to die suddenly. It’s not very nice when authors do that to the fun characters :[

(Every single time I say that a character is my favorite they end up dying. I’m cursed and it’s not nice, and I am too scared to look up if Dallas Winston dies but if he does I am crying and my English teacher will have to deal with me.)

But BOB! He’s alive in the book for like 3 pages and then is horribly murdered by another character, Johnny Cade. He is a little rich boy who loves his rings and his girlfriend and managed to keep a best friend since kindergarten and I have SO many Hcs for him-

Okay, okay. Important things- 1st draft of map is on its way, sorry I’ve been delaying it but school is just slightly more important than the silly map. 2nd, please. Can we stop killing characters I like :(? Jokingly of course but I almost cried, several times now for various characters in various books. Let’s not.

Okay good night :3

I’m sorry I love reading the song of Achilles.

But I SWEAR TO THE GODS WHEN I TELL YOU

Is is SO HARD to google certain things about people like Patroclus without getting just flooded with TSOA stuff

Like-

I just want to figure out what Patroclus’s home kingdom was called before I just believe Wikipedia and all I get is TSOA

So mean man😭 I just want actual information that isn’t based on that silly book where I cry everytime Thetis is on the page because that ain’t Thetis my dudes.

So scared for when Briesis (Breises? Idk and I don’t want to go reference my copy of the Iliad or google it) comes on the page but that’s not the point!

This post is just me being upset because I tried googling Patroclus information and I just get blasted with TSOA. Not a bad thing- but like

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*I’d like to update that I have confirmed the information and that yes, Patroclus’s home kingdom is named Opus

I want to draw but the innate urge to scrap my entire art style and try to draw in a way I want to but would have to spend so much time physically re-doing things and digitally is so annoying.

Trying to draw Percy (digitally, I forgot paper to draw traditionally. I might lament and draw Pompey or something) to get into a better mood, he’s the first character I draw ever when considering a new style.

Might just go read the Aeneid to clear my head. But the itch to work on the art is never ending.

I don’t even post my art on here that often lol. But I’d like to say that I need to get my hands on some paper. Drawing digitally is draining my spirit, please-

There. That is all the art I will produce this night. Yes that is my visual representation of me. The art won’t art guys.

But once I get home I’ll get back on the Camp Jupiter map grind. Now I just gotta… work a lot of things out.

*don’t mind the arm far from the camera I forgot a line that makes it look a little less weird but oh well I just scribbled that for the post so no one cares about the stupid shoulder on the character that literally defies all semblance of anatomy and that’s part of the joke*

Guys I’m gonna start inking the map on the big paper but first,

I have overtime begun to accidentally snort while laughing too hard. This is involuntary and it sucks because everyone’s mood is immediately ruined-

Anyway I’m here to say that Rachel also 150% snorts.

She got a nosebleed one time from one while laughing at a silly video. (I can attest as someone with like weak noses veins or whatever there will probably be a moment in time where I snort harshly and get a nosebleed. I hate the word snort by the way-)

Okay I just wanted a break and then I snorted and felt the need to proclaim loudly that Rachel also does because of course Rachel does.

Anyway map probably coming out tommorow or the day afterwards.

Okay- first off

Working on the 1st big draft of camp! Obviously I’ve changed some things but I’m glad to be actually working on it. This is just a, more detailed plan because obviously not everything measured and pretty and whatever and numbering doesn’t make sense but I wasn’t planning it.

Also I started helping my friend learn how to draw!! He said he wanted to learn and I just sorta explained it the best I could for my style, I made sure to tell him my stuff isn’t the opitomy of art but he had so much progress from the beginning to the end!

Also I might’ve put off a mall trip because of my overwhelming anxiety that comes with buying things. But that is a topic for like very sleepy crying Kleos to go out out on the internet rather than me at the moment. But just know I might haul pic in the future if I’m very proud of myself.

Also Kleos in PJO tv show! It was really funny because yesterday I was gonna make a pinned post explaining my name but I’m very happy it popped up in the show! And that I don’t have to word-vomit my explanation B]

AND CHRIS- AND LUKE OMG- AND MR. D

Okay, I’ll talk about that later, but update on the map and like my life rn I guess- also getting ready to start practicing the LeFou audition for my drama club!

I’ll probably post tmr more updates-

Silly Billy on the internet talks about how much they hate minimalism for 5 minutes; a post.

Know what? I was going to go and make the post about Camp Jupiter’s views on powers (which- my synopsis is; they don’t like them, or value them much and they are somewhat like ostracized as something not to be relied on- ties in with a bunch of stuff I’ll explain but yeah-)

But then I got a giant spike to shout to the rooftops about how much I hate minimalism.

Sure minimalism is whatever and whatever. But you know what it is? The rich man’s aesthetic, it’s ruined so much of interesting things simply for the measure of trying to look more expensive.

There was a rant I once went on about how I hate modern architecture. But this adds on to my hate of the Minimalism umbrella. It takes away any life that has been put into homes and sucks it dry. Like- look at some of these photos,

I’ll be honest I pulled these off of google, do I have background knowledge. No? Do I have the innate urge to sob and give up on humanity when I see them. Yes. The removal of these beautiful and graceful architectural styles is (also the removal of a lot of history and important parts of history because architecture plays a big role on that and blah, blah, blah) icky. I don’t like seeing this ultra-modern architecture, it makes me feel nervous when I see Seattle and these beautiful historic buildings and worry that someone with big pockets and a ego will go turn it into giant glass tower because of whatever stupid reason.

Please, minimalism makes me feel gross and I refuse to like it. Am I too upset at the moment to form a solid argument, yes. Do I want to come onto my tumblr where everyone probably agrees with me and argue to the brick wall about how much I hate minimalism, no? But am I feeling irrationally angry at any minimalistic, modern aesthetics, modern high art (you know the type of modern high art I mean, I’ll be honest I don’t like abstract pieces-)

I am a biased source because I personally am 6-feet-under in the opposite direction for maximalism, (it’s not hoarding, please look at maximalism beside minimalism and tell me what looks better. I know that’s personal opinion but this is my i am very upset about something that isn’t just a fictional book series moment) along with just older styles. I don’t like modern architecture.

Anyway on that note I love what they did for the big house in PJO tv show and it is amazing and every set makes me so happy because it directly makes me giggle and kick my feet and like hainensnfksjdbfjsjsnfjs. I love it and I want more people to build in the same vein as them because I garuntee they look 10x as better than the awful black and white box mansions.

Also I have a family friend who works in architecture and like making houses and I cry everytime they bring me to their next work site and it’s this beautiful building that is amazing. I remember being brought to an old run down 1910s-1940s era farmhouse and being really excited only to come back maybe a year later and finding a sickening black and white monochromatic farmhouse nightmare that I genuinely almost sobbed at.

But I love my family friend and the work she and her husband do and that to a degree it’s also client opinion but like- she makes a lot of the choices for these things and the next time I am brought out to their project sight I will be sitting there strongly encouraging to fight against the oppressive hand of minimalism. That was extreme, but I really like architecture, never talk about it- but genuinely one of my favorite things in this world is architecture and interior design

(If anyone cares my current favorite building is the La Sagrada Familia that is being constructed in Barcelona.)

Anyway that was a angry rant because I just got very upset for no reason over current western (I live in america and therefore don’t speak for the rest of the world, but in regards to the U.S.A which is Tartarus trust me) mainstream trends and culture deciding to lean into this minimalism clean era, which has been influenced by a myriad of things (see I can use myriad in a sentence- only know the word because of Heathers: The musical lol-)

But I’ll be posting that Camp Jupiter powers post… at some point when I write it. I hate minimalism and I pinky promise that I have more interests outside of Percy Jackson.

Fighting the urge to make another post about Bryce Lawerence 😔…

Another post about Bryce Lawerence!

(Guys I gave into the urge)

Okay- but like. No one cares about him, it’s like if I went on an entire post for Larry the legionnaire (that one is still on my list to make- **Update from future Kleos who’s finishing this right now, Larry the Legionnaire post is going to be started directly after this is posted!***). But I really like talking about him because he literally stole a part of my brain and refuses to hand it over.

And there’s so much to him that we don’t know that can be explored! Like- there are so many possibilities with his character and I want to include him more in my Re-imagining because if we’re gonna make him a monster then why not actually display his absolute bat shittery in the book. Or I don’t know.. make him an actually compelling character that gets to be an actual character and not a maniacal stereotype that is put in the plot so we can show Nico’s.. thing? (I don’t know, I’ll be honest don’t like Nico that much- like him in the first arc when he’s a silly little baby and then an emo 10 year old)

Like we know he cannonically committed a bunch of crimes, barely got away by the skin of his teeth because of nepotism and then like??? We don’t know how old he was when he committed said crimes, his most notable one oh I don’t know, MURDER, that feels notable is left as just an afterthought like- there were so many ways this could’ve affected everything just from how long ago the murder was! (I think I did a whole other post on Bryce just talking about that! But it could seriously affect camp and I feel like there was major potential that could’ve improved the story)

Bryce could’ve been a convincing demigod villain that would be an actual threat and the scariest part would be that he wouldn’t have been working for Gaea (at the very most he might’ve done like mercenary work for stuff like triumvirate holdings or whatever it’s called but because I haven’t finished TOA I refuse to make any conclusions) he’d be a separate much more real entity and threat (because how many people were really tensed up and nervous over the Camp Jupiter-Camp Half-blood conflict. Because we don’t see any of it and if the story was tweaked and all of protags weren’t shoved in the same boat away from the b-plot it would be better but that’s for me to yap about-)

And; may I propose a concept (that fits with my hcs-) that Bryce would’ve been in the first cohort, he canonically murdered his Centurion in the war games (It’s not plural in the books to I have to assume that it’s just one of them) but this is my idea that he killed the Centurion that Micheal too over for, and that either Bryce killed them to clear the way for Michael (which opens a whole new avenue for a Michael and Bryce and what their relationship would’ve been that would lead for Bryce to do that-) or that Bryce wanted to take up the role but didn’t get it.

Of course there’s the scenario that Bryce did it for fun. Which is what Rick implied though I don’t like that because it feels… icky? Most people (even people who do heinous crimes like this) don’t just murder for no reason. There is more often than not, a motive. And I think giving Bryce a motive would make him a lot more interesting than just saying, “oh he’s wild guys, he’s just a quirky little guy” and moving on. Again; let’s not make the character with some form of implied psychopathy just a harmful stereotype of an already incredibly stigmatized condition. Alright, cool.

But if we just got a little forethought and Bryce was a bigger part in the plot (which could be my biased perspective because I like the little man) then it could’ve been so much more interesting in camp! It would set up a post Bryce-debocle Camp Jupiter when we first see in in SoN. Where Reyna’s struggling to keep camp together and has to deal with the lingering outside threats of the dude that would probably have a vendetta because she exiled him from the life he’s ever known that could quite possibly still be close to camp (remember Camp Jupiter doesn’t have the magic border-) and developing a following (Make Reyna paranoid, make her fall- make her be a prime example of the perfect soldier, then make her crumble, see as she begins to spiral and fear that she is becoming every closer to her own fathers paranoia, allow her that and put in the message that it gets better and that you can get help. But that’s another post-) a First cohort that is still trying to adjust to the power exchange of a new Centurion, a camp that is on guard and is mourning the loss of a valued and dear member of their legion (I’m not saying we make a Redtail out of the unnamed murdered centurion- but I am saying make a Redtail, and if you get the reference, rad) a camp that is unwelcoming more so than usual all because of this one person. A legacy no less- give us a proper opportunity to dive into Legacies and the culture surrounding them!

Also would like to state that in my legacies post I briefly fluttered by the mention that I think his father was a demigod and that made him a first gen legacy, but on his mothers side I’d like to give the consideration that she’d come from a long line of legacies of Ira (or Furor- or Lyssa as she was in her Green counterpart) but Ira was the spirit (not a goddess, felt that should be known though I’m unsure if that matters or if she can really be interchangeable and still regarded as a minor goddess-) of mad rage, frenzy, and rabies in animals. I say to add this aspect because it feels right in my brain. Sure demigods shouldn’t be stereotyped into personalities based on who they’re related to directly in divinity. But- like, I just wanna have this. I don’t get to talk about Lyssa a lot and I find her interesting and it’s my head-canon (no idea why I’m arguing with myself because literally none of you guys care.)

Okay! I’ve been writing this and recently finished reading zazzanders‘s (please I don’t know if I should be using a direct mention- link thingy? If I should let me know because I’d rather have my posts… somewhat easier to read, like obviously the writing style invokes someone hunched over their phone just typing out random sentences for the fun of it because that’s what it is but I want there to be some form of ease. But you should go check out their page because they make really cool and interesting content) reblog of one of my posts and I too just realized how insanely powerful Bryce is? I don’t know how I would like nerf him but I feel he significantly needs to be chilled out because he has a lot of stuff going on. Like a lot of powers and stuff and whatever and it’s all weird and Rick just yelled whatever when writing him and anything to do with Camp Jupiter so it all ends up weird as hell. Until I figure all that out I’m not touching it and I’m leaving Bryce in this weird zone- and I can’t say screw it and make him blessed by Orcus because with his title alone I think there is no way he would condone or agree with anything Bryce has done,

Which launches me into sudden change! I want to know what Bryce and Orcus’s relationship is. We know Bryce is said to have gone and survived a trip to the underworld because of his edgy 12-year-old comment about the screams from the field of punishment sounding like music to his ears (seriously the more I write the more like I feel like he’d be one of Ramona Flowers’s evil ex boyfriends) so it can be implied that at one point he tried to make contact with Orcus. How did that go out? Not well because I expect Bryce broke a shit ton of oaths about like being a good legionnaire and he probably lied on stand during trial because he’s totally the type of beetle that would do that, so I want to know what that was like- how that affected Bryce, all that stuff. And I know I’ll probably write out how I think that scenario played out in the future.

Anyway I’m pretty sure that I’m just grasping at straws and really if I wanted to I could just keep talking about this character because I don’t know why but I just like- woke up one day and couldn’t get him off my mind sooo..

Larry the legionnaire post next! Then after that I don’t know, maybe something about New Rome or Camp Jupiter. Maybe I’ll finally get around to being confused about the jobs in camp or something,

Maybe goodnight? I don’t really know because the Larry post feels like it’ll be short.

I’ve tried to draw Dakota upwards of 5 times now and have failed each time

I get the pose down everytime and then I start the first draft and suddenly I sit there and go, “I must draw a different character. My hands simply demand so.” And then next thing I know the goblet of sand kool-aid (because honestly that koolaid is probably super with all the unmixed sugar in it) is gone and now I’m putting a bow in the hair of Larry Ahlgren the legionnaire.

One day I’ll draw Dakota. Hopefully.

Haven’t posted for a whole three days wild lol-

Anyway I’m going to work on the next two big projects (that sadly aren’t me trying to buy myself a full set of Roman legionary armor- that’s for later)

-Messing with the Ranks system in Camp Jupiter because I wanna do that and be silly and just have it for my little headcanon and like do stuff with that-

-Finish a post about Camp Jupiter map description. Like I said some other time I’ve put an indefinite pause on drawing it, but I still fully can write it out because describing it is much easier than physically doing it for me :].

I finally finished TSoA.. and once we got to the parts when they were actually in the Trojan war part I started tapping out because like… ajbfoamfnejsjfb whatever I like the classic more.

I’ll be reading the Aeneid too, and possibly doing something with that? I don’t know but I want to work with that for Camp Jupiter and stuff- ideas, ideas that will come in the future Lolol.

Other than that… I might be posting less often because my Drama club is starting to begin! Best bets is that the Ranks will be out first and then maybe some random things if something catches my interest (I’d possibly want to do something about the Wolf-house but I don’t have enough ideas at the moment to make a full post) I might possibly make one about the weapons in camp Jupiter too, whichever comes first but I’m a bit more interested in Roman weaponry than the ranks so uh yeah-

I also did a rough sketch about the arch episode after I saw it-

So I’ll probably post some more about that as it progresses and I fiddle with it more-

Taken a stupid amount of time for me to work on the weapons in Camp Jupiter post because it’s been a day and I barely have started on the Spatha section.

Watching a documentary on fungi and it is improving my mood significantly. Also a stuffed animal, his name is Gus (that is short for Augustus.)

Would love something to talk about but I really don’t have anything going on in my little brain, the weapons post is just taking a while and I might do that map post.

We’ll see, idk though. Always open to suggestions, I think my asks are open, I’d love to give my opinions on prompts.

Will not be tackling anything New Rome or Temple hill related though. Gonna mention New Rome in my Ranks post that will come at some point of time in some point of the future.