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No idea what "Banana Republic" is but I trust your judgement and it is a great insult even with no context.
Also yes, the Jons so need to just insult each other's because they both deserve it. "A brief roast battle between cataclysmic events" anyone? It's the right episode number.
If at any point this season Jonathan Kent makes a comment on how Jon-El dresses, I think we, as a collective all need to remember that this is the outfit he decided to wear for his first day at a new school and that he has no room to talk.
Whatsoever.
It's so funny that these are the cast photos for Alex Garfin and Jordan Elsass.
Like, no. Don't try to pretend these are actual children playing these fourteen/fifteen year olds. You're using adult actors, no one's criticising you for it. Just own up to it.
If Jon-El had social media.
He is not like the other girlsâ˘
ok so, like, based on Lara's introduction in 2x02, Krypton was basically Gattaca, right?
Out of context spoilers for Superman and Lois 2x12
I feel like there's no way that Jon is actually going to wear the warsuit. It's so obviously designed for Natalie.
Yes in the show it is designed for Natalie but in reality if the producers wanted Jon to wear that suit they would have made with less of a distinct Natalie-shape. There's no way he would fit in that.
Plus it just feels cheap. Jon and Nat both expressed interest in mechanics and building and stuff so if Jon was going to have a suit it should be one that he made himself. Let Natalie keep her's.
I bet it's going to play out that Jon gets attacked and can't make it to the war suit then at the very last moment, when all hope is lost, Natalie comes in guns blazing and, like, smacks Jon-El in the head with a hammer.
Like father, like daughter, I guess.
Let Nat have a hero moment, she's dope.
Let Jon have a hero moment thats actually his to take credit for.
I'm only halfway through the episode but I have thoughts!
When your child tells you 'Everyone hates me. I'll never be able to do the thing I love again. I have no future.' the correct response is not. 'that's not true. Anyways... I'm going to go talk to your brother now.'
Seriously Clark. What even is that. You were doing so well.
Also the look Jon got in his eyes when Clark said that Jon-El could be redeemed just makes it look like he's considering merging cause both Jons could earn forgiveness so it wouldn't screw up his life anymore than it already is.
And finally, Lana, that is no way to talk to a child. You're being so mean. I get if you don't want him to hang out with your daughter but it's because of situational issues not because of him. Talk to him like a mature adult. He's fifteen and has got so many issues. Don't be such a jerk.
Welcome to Forks, everyone.
Me @ the Jons if they both decide to merge together
And me @ Clark if the writers actually write well
me when characters experience the devastating consequences of their own actions:
Jonathan Kent is a clone.
More specifically, Superman and Lois's Jonathan Kent is actually an adaptation of Conner Kent. (Jordan is also the Jon adaptation)
There are two versions of Jon that match the two comic versions of Kon.
The fruity, celebrity, daddy issues one who for at least some time is aligned with the villain.
And the more down to earth one who also has daddy issues who tries to combat them with performance enhancing drugs. Who dresses bland af (affectionate).
It is possible that Jon's football throwing skills could be enhanced by tactile telekinesis and it would add reasoning to Clark's favouritism towards Jordan because Kon always has a rough relationship with Clark. He may be being unconsciously biased against him.
It would also be an extra factor for why Lois and Clark were so sure Jon was the one with powers because he was specifically designed and lab grown for that reason.
The show also has no qualms changing characters' names. The biggest example is how Natalie is called Natasha in the comics but also Ally originally being called Rudy ('cause she's basically confirmed to be Parasite now, right?) It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to change Kon to Jon. After all, despite how confusing it is, it's still only a one letter change.
As for how this would actually play out in canon. We don't know how much S&L is actually related to Supergirl but it seems like it is a different continuity, considering their blatant refusal to even make a passing reference to the Arrowverse, but we can assume that the characters might make somewhat similar decisions and things might play out similar because they seem like quite similar alternate universes, if anything.
If, like in the Arrowverse, Lois and Clark went to have their baby on Argo, once they found out they were having a kid because that seems like the safest option then, as far as we know, that would leave earth with no superhero.
This would also leave a perfect opportunity for Lex Luthor to create his own superman with no opposition. Enter project Kr.
When Lois, Clark and their son, Jon, arrive back on earth business goes back to usual until one day Clark busts Luthor for project Kr and he finds a baby who is, genetically, basically his son.
Since the family was off the grid (off the planet) for almost the entire pregnancy, they would be able to pass the baby off as their actual son's twin brother because they wouldn't have told anyone they were having one kid, past the stage that they should have known if they were having twins.
The rest, as they say, is history.
Now for a few flaws to this theory and their rebuttals.
1 We saw Lois get pregnant with twins. - All the flashback scenes we saw pre-the twins already being born were taken directly out of Clark's mind in the "A Brief Reminiscence Inbetween Cataclysmic Events" we don't actually know how the little mind reader devices work but we do know that the "memories" do not always play out exactly as they happened, as seen when Lois is going through Jordan's memories. It is also possible that what we play out is Clark's imaginings of his and Lois' cover story.
Why wouldn't they tell the boys in the pilot? - I think this can mostly be explained along with why they kept the Superman secret for so long. Clark didn't want to tell the boys until it was necessary and while the alien thing was basically unavoidable, it is very easy to see Clark reason to himself that practically, they're both half Kryptonian, it doesn't really matter where they came from. It would be another massive reveal after the alien thing so he might not want to dump it all on them at one time. Especially considering their reactions. This would only make the secret harder to spill each passing day because the boys would, justifiably, be mad about why they were still keeping massive secrets from them.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Tldr: s&l Jon = comics Kon.
It's so disappointing how Jon is getting treated. He's just there for reactions.
I was mad when the season two trailer dropped and Jon was just standing around vaugely flexing but that litterally is his role in the series!
He's like those side characters in shonen that narrate how dramatic the fight is!
The boy deserves better
I don't actually know what came of it but I remember at the beginning of the season there were a bunch of articles that Wouter Tyler Hoechlin as saying that it was his last season because his contract was ending or something.
What if Clark getting depowered is the writers' way of believably killing him off.
Any future seasons could have either Jon or Jordan (or both) working their way up to taking the Superman mantle just like comic Jon.
Urban dictionary definitions are always fun
But also... This will be me if Jonathan, John Henry, Jon El or Natalie end up dead or very heavily implied to not be important in the next season.
(Jordan too, but we all know that isn't going to happen)
Honestly I don't really care what they do with them as long as it isn't total character assassination and they get plots with satisfying conclusions (looking at you whoever writes Jons' storylines)
Jon-El at the least should get the start of a redemption arc or the start of a villainous downward spiral by the end of the season.
Jonathan should get his feelings properly acknowledged and his parents working to make it up to him (or the start of a villainous downward spiral)
John just needs to be not dead/greviously injured
And Natalie deserves to have a bunch of plot surrounding her getting into the hero scene (and a girlfriend. She deserves a girlfriend <3)
I'm along for whatever dumpster fire of a story this show decides to write (because I have a problem and have latched onto and hyperfixated on this show for just about a year) but I would at least like for it to be good, thank you very much!
Jon and Jon should get a spin of show for children that has similar vibes and plot lines to Liv and Maddie.
Jon Kent would be Maddie
Jon-El would be Liv
It would be glorious. It would be a disaster. It would still probably give them better story arcs than Superman and Lois
i made a poster for it
it's awful
someone either needs to teach me how to edit photos or take my computer away from me
Jon and Jon should get a spin of show for children that has similar vibes and plot lines to Liv and Maddie.
Jon Kent would be Maddie
Jon-El would be Liv
It would be glorious. It would be a disaster. It would still probably give them better story arcs than Superman and Lois
I never noticed before that they changed the bizzaro world American flag. I appreciate the attention to detail but it also just looks awful.
With how much the American flag is flown, I am very glad the real world's on doesn't look like that. It would be such an eyesore
I keep seeing people talking about Jonathan Harker hitting Dracula with a steel shovel but when I'm skim reading all I see is "Jonathan hitting steel" and I just think
What do you mean they aren't talking about Superman and Lois?
(at least Dracula is actually a thing in Superman media, unlike Jon's wife, which I have also been confused by previously)
I'm pretty sure there's no confirmation about any of the characters' birthdays but Natalie should 100% share one with Jon and Jordan.
Like they're all 15, it'd just feel weird for them to only be a few months apart.
I personally think that, in chronological order, it would have been Nat and Jon born almost at the same time (Nat being a few minutes older) then Jordan, at least 3 hours later.
Let them be chaotic interdimensional triplets!
A very subjective ranking of the Superman and Lois characters
Love
Jonathan Kent
Ok I love this child so much. He's the epitome of gifted kid burnout and I relate to him to an unhealthy amount. I hope the writers give him more plot in season three and that they actually follow through on the storylines they write for him. Jon deserves to be treated better by the showrunners and most of the characters. He either need to get in a better place or just, like, spiral downwards and become a villain and/or just leave his family for a solo story (preferably either in a Disney sitcom with Jon-El or in a vampire hunting/befriending adventure) 10/10 Good Boy
Natalie Irons
Nat is a very close second to Jon in my opinion. She's just so nice. Her vibes are immaculate and I would want to be her friend. Her story is so interesting and I hope next season focuses more on the Irons rather than the Cushings. I love that they actually show her being smart and how they give her autonomy (unlike Jon). Her (and her dad's) hero moments feel the most earned to me and I would watch an entire show where they were the main characters. 10/10 good vibes
John Henry Irons
I'm sad to say this but I think John Henry Irons is probably the only actually good parent in this show, named after two parents. He actually talks things out with his daughter and treats her like a capable person?!? What a shocker. I gotta say, whenever he was fighting Clark in the first season I was rooting for him. All I can ask is that they stop hospitalising him, considering he's going to be working against intergang, hopefully he won't get sidelined into the ER next season. 10/10 best parent
Jon-El
I debated whether or not to put Jon-El higher than John Henry Irons. I think I like Jon-El more but in a more detached, point and scream "boyyyyyy" way than any actual feelings. He is great, though, and I'm pissed he didn't make it into the finale. He better be back next season. He doesn't get super developed but he's definitely a dramatic gay theatre kid with daddy issues. I am here for it and I will not hear otherwise. I just want the writers to give him screen time, therapy and a boyfriend tbh. In the words of Luz Noceda he is a "bad but sad boy" 10/10 dramatic disaster gay
Tah-Rho
I was indifferent/bored with him in season 1 but I'm season 2 I live for him. He's literally just vibing. He just wants a family. I just want to watch whatever random shenanigans he gets up to instead of helping the main story. He's just the weird uncle. I want to know what goes on in his head. He's so fun to watch. 10/10 chaotic bastard neutralÂ
Like
Denise Olowe
I have nothing against Denise. She seems like a chill person. She'll probably end up dating Jon and I wouldn't be opposed to it (she'd definitely be the best he's had). I'd totally be down to see her get more character development down the line. Like if they want to have a 'civilian' storyline, I'd much rather follow her family than whatever we're meant to call Sarah's disaster of a family. 10/10 seems nice
Kyle Cushing
Kyle gets an unnecessary amount of hate. Cheating is usually one of the only unredeemable actions in my eyes that good characters can take because it is just a wholly selfish action but I'm willing to give Kyle a chance. Sure he did cheat but it was in his bad phase when he was also being a bad parent and (possibly?) an alcoholic. He stopped of his own volition, though, and worked on himself to make sure that he could be a good father and husband. As far as I'm concerned the only thing he should really be trashed for is not telling his wife. I genuinely don't think the Kyle we see in season 2 is the same person who had an affair. Another thing is you can see how much Kyle genuinely loves his family. He's so supportive of both Sarah and Lana and he is their number one supporter. I honestly think he's the second best parent in the show. Sure he's an absolute idiot in some of the things he does and says but he is trying to work on himself and he just constantly gets sh*t on. (I do think a lot of this is tied to the fact that Eric Valdez plays home really well) 10/10 he's trying
Jordan Kent
I don't have that much to say about Jordan. He's chill for the most part. I want him to succeed and be happy and stuff. Sometimes his vibes are off and vaguely serial killery but for the most part I like him. 10/10 I like him
Mitch Anderson
It's fun to watch him suffer. I live for whenever his bad decisions decide to come back to bite him. It's just so fun to watch. I did feel really bad for him in episode 10, though. It broke me when he and Jordan-El were trying to talk about Bizarro Superman. I really wish he didn't die in that episode. I would have preferred it if he died in the final battle with Ally. It just felt anti-climactic, how it played out. I literally didn't even realise he died. 10/10 should have died in episode 15
Indifferent
Sam Lane
I don't know what to say here. He's there. He does stuff. It is interesting how he sometimes switches between a minorly antagonistic role and a protagonistic one. I don't have any strong feelings about him except that he should have been a better dad. 10/10 he sure was there, wasn't he?
Lois-El
She's there. She doesn't really get much screen time. I really felt for her when she was leaving Kal, though. 10/10 girlboss?
Lois Lane
Pretty similar to her dad, honestly. Seriously though it really feels like she drops the ball with Jon so much (not as much as Clark, though). I have faith that her character could be good if she wrote her well, so I more hate the execution rather than the actual character, if that makes sense. I hope they do her better next season 10/10 could have potential if literally anyone else wrote for her
Jor-El
He's there. He looks sad. 10/10 he needs a hug
Kal-El
I'm sympathetic towards him but also it pains me to watch his scenes. Like stoooopp you pain me. 10/10 second hand embarrassment
Chrissy Beppo
People rag on her too much. Like sure, she definitely is annoying and feels too entitled about information but put yourself in her shoes. Her idol just came in and bought half of her newspaper so now they are co-owners but Lois doesn't treat her like an equal and she definitely is keeping a tonne of secrets. From the audience's perspective Lois's actions are understandable but Chrissy has every right to be pissed at Lois, especially since their profession is all about telling the truth and journalistic integrity. Of course she doesn't want to be lied to. 10/10 annoying but not wrong
Dislike
Sarah Cortez
I'm a lot more forgiving of Sarah because she's an actual teenager and at least she told Jordan basically straight away that she kissed Aubry (though it shouldn't have happened in the first place). The whole trying to make Jordan and Aubrey friends thing is kind of strange but I can see where Sarah's coming from. Aubrey can relate to what she's going through, which she feels like she can't really talk to Jordan about because as far as she knows his home life is pretty great. There's also the fact that Jordan in no way expressed how upset he actually was about the kiss to Sarah's face. It's easy to say that Sarah literally thought Jordan wasn't too hurt. I know at least with my friends when we were 14/15 a bunch of people had dated or confessed crushes on other people and we were still all friends. You can totally be friends with people you've had/have romantic feelings for and Sarah might have been thinking along those lines. All in all, some of Sarah's actions are rude/annoying but she seems like she's trying but is just finding a little hard to see things from Jordan's perspective because she's so caught up in her own drama (which I might add, a lot of which has been publicised to the entire town) 10/10 will probably be better once she knows the secret and grows up a little
Clark Kent
Clark, what are you even doing?!?! Whatever it is, it pains me! He's just so dense. And blind (you sure you don't actually need real glasses, my dude?) He just is just such a bad parent to Jon. Can we please go back to season 1 writing for him? Please?!?! Hopefully the showrunners look at people's reactions to Clark and do something about it!!! 10/10 do better you idiot!
Candice Pergande
I dislike every one of her scenes except for the last one. When she goes to talk to Lois and Sam she does actually look remorseful and like she is trying. It feels like we were meant to see more scenes of her like that but they were cut or something. Obviously she should have taken accountability but she's doing it for her father so she's not doing it from a strictly selfish standpoint and it's very easy to see how she might feel stuck and scared in this position. She feels like she could have potential and I hope if she is kept around (unlike Teagan) that the writers will expand more on her character and actually make her likeable. 10/10 let's hear her out
Hate
Lana Lang
I don't even know what to say about Lana. I feel like most of it has already been said by other people. She's just so insufferable and rude all the time. She's so entitled and I hate how she reacted to Clark's secret, especially by being mad at everyone except for Clark. Like b*tch just shut up!!! Please! I get Lana's under a lot of pressure but it's so obvious that she doesn't care about her behaviour and neither do the writers. It's so annoying. I hope she gets sidelined so much more next season 10/10 please, either get a reality check or just leave
Lucy Lane
She's just annoying and is given too many chances. How come Lucy who was the right hand man for a litteral world ending cult gets forgiveness easier than Jon who took drugs like three times. 10/10 shouldn't she be behind bars or something?
George Dean
I couldn't decide whether to put him or Ally at the bottom. He is intentionally insufferable and, I gotta say, the writers finally succeeded at something. He's so smug and annoying and I can't stand him! 10/10 of course he's in politicsÂ
Ally Allston
Booooooooo. Not that intimidating. Really annoying. I hate how she talks. I hope she doesn't return and just stays in prison for the rest of her life (this goes for both of them) 10/10 I hate her (squared)
Best Boiiii
Timmy Ryan
"Even Chads deserve character development"
"And love"
10/10 deserves an enemies to lovers arc
I was trying to find the plot synopsis for season three and the website I found couldn't even get the twins the right way around.
Like seriously, this feels like a bad omen