Twitter Discourse - Tumblr Posts
The tags messed up so I'm just gonna.
Tumblr is like "share your opinions and we'll have tea" while Twitter is "share your opinions and we're gonna start ripping each other's hair out".
Is this about the Techno situation? Perhaps.
CW! Twitter Discourse
M just saying, people aren't wrong for bringing up past mistakes, but they aren't completely in the right either.
Like m8, harassing his mods and spamming @ him on Twitter? Man. People had the chance to dono on stream and ask, politely, well phrased, while also stating their intentions. It's the way that has the highest chance of getting a verbal response.
But nahhhh, not a single dono in the previous stream chill stream, where it was prime time to get him to address the situation. This shit has been going on since January.
Like yes, hold him accountable, that's chill, that's fine, he said some shit that sucks and I can't speak for some of em (but I can for some like the Asian COVID joke. it's chill w/ me, but not with every single one of us. I don't speak for the entire community)
But like, people had the opportunity?
But they chose to instead drag it on a little longer, dragging the rest of SBI into it.
And finally landing it on, once again, "hey we should use Twitter, he has to acknowledge us and give us a verbal apology / tweet about it".
I'm no psychology major, but I'm very sure that's not how every single person works m8 (or like apologize, I guess, in this context).
^^^
I do apologize if some of the things I've said have made you or anyone upset.
I'm trying to say is, there's better ways to address a situation than whatever Twitter is doing right now and definitely far bigger problems (or well the root of it) that people can focus on other than some dude making a bad tweet / sending a dodgy message etc etc.
have a nice day :D
The thing that annoys me so much about Twitter freaking out over the "murder is bad" tweet is that this kind of attitude actively hurts activist causes.
Literally all this kind of nitpicking over tone does is make people less likely to talk about serious issues because they're too afraid that they'll do it wrong, or they just straight up can't because it would ruin their brand or come off as inauthentic to suddenly get all solemn. AND on top of that, seriousness is NOT always the best approach. Humour, including dark humour, absolutely has its uses. People are more likely to act on something that made them laugh than something that made them feel depressed.
(Wow, depression enables apathy? Who would have though /s)
So yes, I'd be willing to bet that a slightly humorous tweet WILL actually get more signatures on a petition than a solemn one.
(I mean I'm not the biggest fan of petitions as activism but that's besides the point here.)
Also ffs, who can honestly say they've never dealt with heavy issues through humour? It's such a natural reaction and it helps ease the tension. We NEED that. You get burned out SO QUICKLY if you don't get any kind of emotional release. Your brain starts associating activism and politics with pain and stress, until you can't take it anymore. It's just not mentally sustainable.
me watching techno stream before school, seeing if anyone is gonna bring the shit up stream:
B r u h.
why is my Tumblr messing up so badly I can't even see if my reply went through-
CW! Indicated- Twitter Discourse
but anyway people could've dono'ed on Techno's stream (if you don't have money then, welp) about the situation to actually bring it upfront, and yeah yeah, someone could've done that and that's fine, but that money definitely could've gone to actual charities that help instead of - calling out a single person.
Meh that's probably the last of whatever I think about the situation. Gonna sit back with sunglasses or smth, eat lasagna and watch Twitter burn.
Post about Tumblr etiquette and basic stuff that I'm trying to make as entertaining and colourful as possible because I have the attention span of a stick and if I saw long paragraphs like this too, i would go " I will scroll ".
Part 2: here you go. it’s very short, i think.
CW! Twitter discourse (indicated, Techno's boundaries being broken. sleepytwt disbanding??, it's short, don't worry).
Hi hi hello to you all coming from Twitter after whatever the fuck happened. Sit down have a drink, take a sip, have a cookie (...cept for chocolate chip, those are mine). It's pretty safe here as long as nobody drags in the cousin we all dislike.
Tags, hashtags, not shopping tags.
We use the tags as a filtering system, basically. Like stuff about:
Tubbo in general? #tubbo .
Stuff about character Tubbo? #c!tubbo / #c!Tubbo .
Stuff about content creator Tubbo? #cc!Tubbo / #cc!tubbo.
etc. etc.
We try to keep positive stuff in the main tags (in general tags), occasionally there will be stuff about Twitter or negativity about them but generally, as far as I've seen, they aren't heavy, or they are but they're pretty solid arguments that aren't like, loud, yelling, or gives off that vibe, I suppose.
#cw!__ / #tw!__ / #neg!__ / #__ crit+ more can be tagged if needed or requested (as in, if the tag isn't already there). Depends on who runs the blog. Whether you need to send in a ask, or just reply to the post, or DM. Up to the person to runs the blog.
-- if there's more I'll add, when I think of them later --
Reblog button my beloved
I'm not : hey I study the algorithm I know shit!
But IG and Twitter runs on likes / retweets. Tumblr runs on reblogs. yeah, yeah, that small button that's like, circular next to the heart.
Looks like recycling, something the government failed to incorporate well. Looks like the recycling symbol doesn't it? yeah it just lacks one arrow and it's not a triangle.
Liking posts? Great that's nice buddy, thank you (not /s)
Reblogging? Mmmmmmm THATS THE SHIT. SEEING THAT IN MY NOTIFS? serotonin. absolutely.
please, it's like the one thing that's keeping this platform afloat and information / works spreading. also it helps spreads the post. Liking doesn't do much, most it does is be a bookmark just so you can look for that post later.
"but I don't want my blog to be flooded with stuff I reblog!" No, no, dude (gender neutral), that's how you get people to follow and find your stuff. You really worried about people being annoyed, can't find what you actually post? Refer to part 1, tags as a filtering system. Make a reference post or whatever, pin it to your profile or make a Carrd, link that stuff. If people are really that lazy to go to the hashtag, doom scrolling works for them.
Filtering, yes great mechanic.
Filtering, now, this isn't for other people to find your stuff and save them time of scrolling. It's somewhat related to the tagging system of Tumblr but it's for yourself this time, very cool.
- Gear icon. Top right corner of your profile.
- Account settings.
- Filtering.
Two options : tag filter and content filter.
Tags filter is self-explanatory. You enter the tag you don't wanna see, and done. You'll never see that tag, or any posts that have that tag again.
Content filter filters posts with certain text content. Certain- as in the text you've entered, and decided you never wanna see em.
Congratulations, your eyes didn't lose HP today.
Bruh when was this posted.
Haven't used Tumblr on a laptop for a while, but I'm pretty sure it says, uh somewhere.
But on phone:
Three dots. Top right of the post.
There it is, like, rightttt there, above that rectangle pop up thing, there's the date. Have fun seeing how dead some blogs are.
My post is getting drowned :(
Uh, reblog your own post or pin it to your own profile. That works.
So does the post drowning and disappearing into oblivion. Tapping a button requires a lot of work and if ya don't want to, shruggie.
Ayo, if you're gonna justify something about someone or any situation, be specific and as clear as you possibly could, if you mess up a little with your argument, that's fine. Edit button is a pencil on the post, you can make another post or reblog the OG post to clarify.
Use tone indicators. There are neurodivergent people on this platform, like, every platform basically. Save us some worrying and head scratching.
Use the tone indicators, and don't use them as a joke (unless it's between like close moots, and your uh following gets it then yeah I suppose that's fine, but clarify in the tags would be great).
Typing out /insert_acronym_here isn't a time consuming thing. ( A simple Google search of Reddit tone indicators can give you a list if you need it ).
Last thing I can really think of is: the hashtags is where all the short hot takes, that good shit, is.
Not just in general, in posts too ;) .
also why are people on Twitter spreading the #kick____ with saying that you shouldn't do that. Your intentions are great m8, but uh, ಠ◡ಠ that's a... It's a method.
k welcome to tumblr. Each app has their like etiquette, this is Tumblr's or the most I can think of. no you can't have my chocolate chip cookies, have a good stay.
I'm going to bed like man, I'm sleepy. (Also since people is coming in because of like, the stuff related to SBI going on twitter, gonna mainly tag that. Hope that's chill)
Also, it's Ramadan. claps, Ramadan Mubarak, have a good one y'all. (whispers hey, hey send some love to fellow Muslims, hope you're doing well.)
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15/4/2021 , 6.42 PM --- Filtering (new section)
and. again i'd like to reiterate that its so fucking clear that people who decide to cancel techno under the guise of him being "antisemitic" DO NOT care about jews in the slightest. i do not actually give a fuck about some minecraft guy tweeting "is hitler a lesbian?"
an orthodox jewish family of three got slashed with a knife in nyc while visiting from belgium during passover. france is banning kosher slaughter in june. antisemitic hatecrimes are on the rise. i do not give a FUCK about performative twitter "expose" threads. stop exploiting our pain just so you can ruin someone's week.
im gonna start off by apologizing for the rambling in this post about technoblade's situation. twitter is just grating on my nerves hard, and having all this happen to someone I hyperfixate on is, "buries face in hands".
And if this post isn't phrased all that well and I gave off the wrong vibes, my apologies. I don't have any ill intention towards the minorities affected in this situation, and if you want a certain line rephrased to accurately reflect my real meaning/message/intentions (but it didn't because I sucked at phrasing it) uh replies. DM. Ask. Whatever works to reach me.
To anyone who's affected by it too, whether it's because he's your hyperfixation, or not and you're just generally worried. Stay off twitter yeah, hope you're doing alright, uh have some water.
CW! Twitter Discourse , Ableism , Mentions of Asian Hate and Harassment.
Stop reading if you know well that it will trigger you. Please scroll past. Find a cute cat picture, maybe.
So, new hashtag trending. Wonderful, congratulations people on Twitter involved, you did something! You did something you thought was good! Good job! (/s)
this sounds super rude but, what the fuck mate? what was going through your mind when trending #kick-insert techno's real name- ? You had good intentions to call out people who deciding doxxing techno is okay. I can respect that, but tweeting about it with the hashtag? That's what gets it trending. Multitude of people tagging it.
how much traction did the og tweet of the doxxing get? how much attention was pulled to the situation AFTER the hashtag trended?
have anyone ever thought that, someone with, horrible anxiety, would reply to such a stressful situation? that maybe their mental health is on the brink after this shit?
Call him out on the bad shit he's done, that's fine. Good for you. But to this point of not considering someone else's side and expecting someone who's ND to rise to your NT standards is a pure shit move.
A week to apologize?
Look, I get it. It's been going on for awhile. But, who gave him a week to apologize? The minorites ACTUALLY affected? If so, that's alright, you're tired of waiting. That's fine. I can't say much. The only one I can say much about is the covid joke he made since I'm Chinese . I don't live in China, but I'm definitely Asian nonetheless.
Have you seen the full clip? Or did you only focus on the single part. He didn't completely disregard the Asian harassment and hate. He said before he made the joke: "horrific racism aside" .
And yes, I don't speak for the entire community, I know some people are hurt by the joke, especially (observation based) if you found out about the joke around this period of time where COVID is far worse compared to Feb 2020 when the joke was made. that's fine. Just because me and my friends aren't hurt doesn't mean you should be the same.
It's fine to ask for an apology, but to chase an apology to the point you're carrying out blatant heavy harassment towards another person is not okay.
But anyways, a week to apologize?
But if the one who gave this deadline isn't minorities actually affected? If it's the ones being performative and said "hey! You have a week to say sorry!" ?
ಠ‿ಠ what bro.
People are really chill with the easy side of adhd aren't they? Hm? Once the tough stuff about adhd comes up and shows itself, people really just flip faces quick huh? So quickly. Actually, no, once the tough stuff about a ND persons disorder comes up, flip.
shhhhh. listen hey hey hey hello listen. s h h h h h h h h don't say no more words. shush. sealed. keep your lips closed.
Claps clap yay I'm done weeeee. (not /s). I'm keeping this off the main Technoblade tag as this is more of a rant and it's definitely much heavier.
CW! Twitter Discourse Mention
I don't wanna summon the dead of the twitter drama with techno but I'm gonna make a final say that at this point, people who follow techno long enough will know this dude is the furthest thing from homophobic/lesbophobic etc etc and like Sophie said, if he really was a raging racist, she wouldn't be friends with him, and she's someone who's actually friends with techno, and honestly? yeah. fair.
im gonna scramble. have a lovely day to all of you.
people really just saw one thing and didn't bother to dive deeper and actually do some research on how he's actually like, innit.
Quickly addressing the current HBomb94 Discourse on Twitter
CW: mentions of p*dophilia, sexualization of minors
So recently there’s been a rise of call-outs against HBomb94 for supposedly shipping a minor with an adult (Tommy and Wilbur), which was taken out of context from a very old clip of him reacting to one of SAD-ist’s animation. This wave of hate was created when H replied to Minx’s tweet about GeorgeNotFound’s stans being toxic in her comment section.
For this context, H was making an inside joke with Minx, and then calling out stan twitter for being toxic and infantilizing George, who was an adult and could handle himself if there was discourse between him and Minx. In this situation, H was not wrong in pointing out what the fans were doing (among other things like calling him and Minx very sexist things and saying that he was defending a friend of a racist, which is an entirely different discourse H didn’t involve himself in).
Back to HBomb’s discourse, you can find the main post in question here, included with the clip and transcript.
I’ve been watching HBomb94 before the events of this stream. He’s the type of guy to be fandom-savvy enough to call out on weird things that fans tend to do. That’s what he was doing there in the clip. However, there’s a context that was missing from the entire post: HBomb’s chat during that stream.
When H brought up the topic of people making weird fanfictions, and admittedly it was phrased wrong, most of chat immediately assumed that it was shipping, and caused H to quickly become confused, hence the discussion of Tommy being a minor. Once again I’d like to remind you (as I was there in chat) that H was just pointing out the weird thing. Never once did he say that it was okay. In fact, when chat started getting weird, H quickly called them out on that and scolded them for doing so.
However, taken out of the context of the chat, and shown towards people who’s never watched H to know enough about how he talks, his way of thinking, and his sense of humor, twitter quickly caught fire and started cancelling him left and right, calling him a p*do among other things. That in itself is strange, because out of all the times he’s interacted with younger people on stream, he’s been very respectful and always makes sure to create a boundary between him and them. Even in his catmaid bits where he plays a perverted character, when a minor enters the call, he always make sure to set boundaries and not say anything bad.
I am not defending what H has said specifically in that clip. The way he’s phrased it also made me uncomfortable, but I knew at that point that there was no malicious intention behind it, and that it was very much a mistake that was done in poor taste. Twitter is blowing it out of proportions and forgive me to admit this, as a fan and also a creator who works with H, who has otherwise been an upstanding creator and community member, it’s heartbreaking and frustrating.
I cannot pick a fight with twitter and win, but I know fans on tumblr are more sensible than this. I wrote this post here for a reason, and that I want to let you know that if you, individually, are affected by this and made to feel uncomfortable, it’s within your rights to feel so and to disengage, because your feelings are valid. However, I also want you to know that the sudden hate towards H was unwarranted, and he doesn’t deserve to be called horrible things for something that has happened only once and was never repeated. HBomb94 is not a p*dophile, and he’s never encouraged the sexualization of minors.
New Update on HBomb94 Discourse!!!
CW: p*dophilia mention, sexualization of minors, misinformation
H has started streaming tonight to address the current situation. He’s apologized to the viewers and agreed that the things that he’s said was wrong. He was making that bad joke out of his experience with the Cube SMP and how he and his friends would make jokes out of weird shippy stuff like that. He also said that he’s reached out to both Tommy and Wilbur and apologized to both of them, to which they’ve accepted his apology.
He’s also addressed his defending of Minx, stating that he was simply defending her from toxic fans, and he didn’t know that she was (supposedly) racist. He said that she was a good friend and from his POV of their relationship, she was also a good person.
He also apologized for saying that he disliked tone indicators, stating that his personal perspective of tone indicators has always been of people using /j to tell him he was old or other similar jabs. That was why his view on them was negative. However he acknowledged that what he said was generalizing, and apologized for that, too. He also spent some time looking up tone indicator caards per chat’s instruction to find out more about them. Note that there was a generational issue where he wasn’t used to how younger people today communicated, and chat helpfully pointed that out to him too.
However! Twitter’s level of speech comprehension is abysmally low, and has started another hate train towards H especially after H said, within the context of people accusing him to be sexualizing Tommy and being a p*do, that he was 100% not attracted to men and minors. Twitter right now is once again twisting his words to mean that he was assuming all MLM were p*dos, which was untrue. The outrage spread even further when Dream reached out and donated 100 subs as support.
During the entirety of H’s apology, not once did he get defensive and mad, and instead took criticism from chat to heart and accepted that what he did was wrong. Please do not spread any more hate towards him and don’t jump on hate trains on twitter, as he has handled the situation very maturely.
He’s currently playing Vault Hunters on stream, and is expecting himself to be completely knocked out tonight and maybe the next few days due to his second Covid shot.
do people on twitter know what pedophilia is???? pretty bold to put out a thread accusing hbomb of being a whole ass pedophile when he just pointed out that there’s weird shit in this fandom (....which is true. there is weird stuff) such as tommy x wilbur fan fiction ? how does that equate to pedophilia in any way ???? he’s not sat there writing a ff he’s just pointing out that there are people in this fandom who have probably written that stuff (because there is theres a whole subtwt for that creepy shit)
imo h is one of the more careful ccs on the dreamsmp. he immediately stops the cat maid bit when a minors near and is visibly uncomfortable to be caught in the bit by people like tommy n tubbo .
also do not get me started on the fact that fans had no problem with that clip UNTIL he defended minx from the weirdos barking n growling at her in her mentions because she @ed george . if they truly had a problem with h surely they would’ve bought this up when it happened ?? sounds performative to me
pls if i’m getting this wrong help me but those situations do not go together in my mind
The thing w ppl using techno's first name in qrts or in any form while insulting him n shit like. Its so Viscerally uncomfortable to me.
It feels so much like. Deadnaming a trans person or using the wrong pronouns when u dont like them. But minus the transphobia obviously, it STILL has that Core idea that people are only deserving of respect and basic human decency up until they do something you dont like, they step out of line or say something wrong.
Its just blatantly disrespectful like. I dont doubt the same ppl whod do that would deadname shitty trans ppl too yknow?
But also if i said as much on twitter bet someone would say somethin like 'its transphobic to compare deadnaming a trans person to using the wrong name for a cis person' as if theres transphobia in saying that disrespecting ANY person's identity is shitty as fuck
techno could be living life in retirement down in hell and dream would pull an orpheus.
so when do you think twitter will realise that dream is the biggest techno stan there is
fun fact: 90% of internet discourse could be solved if we stopped generalizing when making statements
