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the watcher stuff is sure feeding my blocklist bc if you're out there even mentioning that 6 dollars is actually okay or using "artists deserve to get paid" as some sort of master argument when a lot of fans are also artists in their own right (and not ones that can afford a tesla) and like they weren't getting paid before i simply do not ever want to see you on my dash x
It keeps getting worse
If they don’t respond to this TOMORROW they will have eviscerated all the goodwill and love their fans had for them. They should have done it hours ago. Going forward, they either need to consult a professional business manager after this astronomically stupid decision or Steven needs to step down and let someone more competent run the company. No one is paying for another streaming service.
things they could have done:
stressed engagement more (like, comment, share, subscribe, etc.)
promoted their patreon more – there are people in the comments shocked to find out they even had one
youtube memberships (with exclusive emojis!)
given patrons/youtube members exclusive behind-the-scenes videos and/or early release videos
joined nebula & given nebula members exclusive behind-the-scenes videos and/or early release videos
streamed horror games on youtube/streamed horror games on twitch & uploaded the VODs on youtube
decreased the production value & staff required to create videos
any or all of the above
not this
literally anything but this
"Wanting to get better funding for content you put out and not have to go through youtube's rabbithole" and "this is not a completely thought-out solution" are statements that can coexist
Updating with that new couch content™️
When you see three guys on a couch, you know some shit is going down. But seriously, WHY does it look like they intentionally copied the try guys couch video? 😭
I KNEW IT!
There was no way Watcher and the Try Guys independently thought of this idea. Also, both Ryan and Zach referred to their apps as "streamers" which is a term I'd never heard before. I knew there was some third party company waiting in the wings.
I'm a big Try Guys fan and I'm happy with how they've rolled this out for the most part, but I knew there was some other corporation involved. I would have loved some transparency on that. 💙💚💙💚
Okay so hi I'm not super in any of your fandoms (watcher + try guys + dropout, hello welcome) but I'm a software developer and BOTH try guys and watcher announcing a custom streaming platform so close together had me suspicious.
So with just one, I'd assume that maybe they scraped together the money and resources to hire enough devs to make a well-designed secure platform (you want security for your login info and payment info). But two? Seems a bit odd.
So I actually looked a bit closer, at their privacy policies:
So it looks like Vimeo has decided to up their game and partner with existing yt content creation outlets to make streaming platforms.
Wait, what about Dropout? Dropout uses it too!
What does this mean, exactly?
Well, it means that Vimeo is providing a base software that gets customized for use by the companies (watcher, 2nd try). It means that Vimeo has a hand in your data associated with these platforms (account info, payment info, watch info, etc...). Is that a bad thing? Idk yet. Read through the streaming platform's privacy policy and Vimeo's privacy policy and make your own decision about what you feel comfortable sharing. But realistically the only additional info collected compared to your average youtube use is the financial info, and that seems to go through another third party (4th party?) (like Stripe or something like that. very common, most of your financial transactions online use things like that). It also likely means that Vimeo is taking some kind of cut of the profits made from these subscriptions (and lets be real, in this day and age, they're not just demanding a flat fee. It's likely some percentage of your subscription cost). The companies switching over (watcher and 2nd try) are making the gamble that the money made on subscriptions after cost taken is more than their adsense from yt, which isn't a wild idea considering how much we know yt loves demonetizing videos and paying their creators poorly.
It also means that Vimeo seems to be on some sort of marketing push, and that more of your favorite channels may swap over to streaming services in the near future.
Vimeo???? Yes, vimeo, that bootleg youtube that's been around for like as long as I can remember being on the internet. I guess they finally found a way to usurp yt's market control and good for them ig. Maybe this will be the thing that finally forces yt to fix their creator relationships? time will tell Why are you posting this in my favorite media company's tag?? I wanted fanart! Sorry to intrude, I just think this is neat and would love to hear opinions from other people on this knowledge.
"we wanna keep the price low enough where anybody and everybody is able to afford it" for an unnecessary $6 a month subscription from the mouth of someone who drives a tesla and wants to make a show where he judges whether a dish with edible gold and caviar on top of it is "worth it" while the majority of their audience is struggling to make rent is giving high key let them eat cake energy
Not to talk about the watcher thing again as I’ve already kind of said my piece, but one of the most batshit insane parts of this whole unbelievable situation is that for some reason they decided that for some fucking reason the BEST time to announce this highly controversial decision was literally DAYS before they would be going on an international tour and having to face irate fans IN PERSON. Guys. What the hell. At least have the sensibility to announce a move that you HAD to have known would make people upset AFTER one of the few times you actually interact in person with your fanbase.
I hope you’re ready to investigate the Tower of London for ghosts, because I have a feeling the Londoners will be more than happy to acquaint you with the building later this week.
Insane move after insane move. Truly.