But Are We Going To Go The English Route Or The Spanish? One Or The Two Surnames? Because One Is Quicker

But are we going to go the english route or the Spanish? One or the two surnames? Because one is quicker bit seems like siblings, hahahaha

Sorry I'm stupid it seams italian and greek names have only one usually being a patronimic name more than a surname!.

For Odysseus I would try one ending in -atos (cause that seems the suffix of Cephalonia (Ithaca's supposed surname) and one ending in -akos for Penelope (the one from Laconia (Sparta's region) but the begining I'm not sure, hahahah

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I SAW THAT IT'S SO PRETTY <3

It's them. Them. <3

@dootznbootz I'm not that much awake but I saw you posted a Water wife post and I had to read ir; I'm not surprise by the quality!! It's so gooodd. I was hooked up since the begining.

I have an idea of my own, What if Ithaca, an island in the Ionian sea, did't used to have rivers but only springs? Then as Odysseus gets with Penelope as a present He builds the Canals around the Palace (the ones before are mostly cloged up) and with a little help he creates a riverbed in a plain prone to flood??? Like Bioenginer Odysseus!!! ♡

That's why the conflict with Ithaca's naiad, he uses their reservoirs for the Canals and river, and because is a new river it's free of divinities and the Ithacans naiads want it for themselves.

So there are two conflicts the reservoirs and the custody of the rivers, at the end Penelope's is queen not only of mortals but also the queen of Ithaca's naiad (or the most powerful of them)

Hope you like the idea!

You mentioned Telemachus having sharp Naiad teeth. Imagine if he used those teeth to take out all the suitors. With Odysseus’ help of course.

Sadly, would probably leave him open and vulnerable to attacks :'D So he probably wouldn't unless really desperate.

Sharp naiad teeth are more for "I can rip through any fish scale and bone and be fine." as an adaptation for water life than for battles between mortals. Odysseus watches so lovingly seeing his Water wife and Water son devour whole fish.

Telemachus is around 37.5% Naiad and he'd probably be using water from the canals to trip suitors. Even then, he can only work with a certain amount of water. Penelope has MUCH more control and she's kind of there as well. Imagining Odysseus seeing a bunch of dudes drowning, only to realize it's not Telemachus, itches my brain. He starts cackling and gets a special bloodlust when he realizes she's "there". It's another reason why he's so hurt when she firsts rejects him as "We were basically flirting during our dinner, you drowned some suitors. You KNOW it's me! WHY?!" but uh...He doesn't know that Athena had to tell Penelope not to drown the "stranger". She was mostly trying to make sure Telemachus stays safe and along with you know, killing the suitors now that she has "permission". There's more to it but yeah lkasjdf sounds nuts but I think it'll work.

Penelope looked him in the eye during that dinner, tears still damp on her cheeks, and says "You say all these things but My Odysseus, who fidgets with his clothing and who bounces his knees in time with my own, would never leave me weeping while he sits. He would throw his arms around me!" "...He would if he could." Then he goes to sleep outside and she's pissed and he's a mess. :D The "Beggar" looks nothing like her husband but he moves and talks just like her love, his voice unsteady as he praises her. What the fuck is going on? Basically she knows it's him but also is like "Why would he keep himself from me?" Like how Odysseus tells HER during the treebed scene

And Athena is editing her fanfiction document for these two as "You little fucks weren't supposed to be doing this! I kept your tears from falling, Odysseus, why do you have to be such a sap?! Shit! Back to the storyboard."

Anyways!!! :D

Naiads usually don't bite people unless they feel they have no other option. Odysseus is an exception as he does have ONE "special bite" from his special wife because he's a little freak who wanted it rdtfygufgh. Penelope bit Palamedes on his forearm as he held her back as he took Telemachus from Anticlea and Penelope rushed after him. Odysseus is haunted by the image of both his wife and son sobbing while her teeth are stained with blood. He gets sick pleasure seeing that scar on Palamedes' arm before he gets him killed.

And as a whole, there are actually a couple "rules" Naiad born soldiers have to follow that are very important within war.

With battle, even if you ARE naiad born, you have to ask the river god "Hey, this is getting really bad. Can we work together for this?" As River gods are usually like "I am here for your consumption, bathing, and healing. You will not use my water for violence." (Why Achilles gets his ass kicked and why Naiad born soldiers don't just "drown people")

If someone/something is attacking your river or YOU, like an animal wreaking havoc (like the big catfish! :D ) or a person trying to kill a single naiadborn, then self defense is fine. Daphne got turned into a tree because Apollo outranks nymphs and the river gods. River gods don't fuck with Olympians but he still wanted to protect her.

Though once you have your own water source (canals, vase full, etc.) you're technically free to do whatever you want with it. (Penelope loves this loophole 😈 The Palace waters are hers. and Telemachus' too but you know.)

With the war aspect, however, there are so many wounds that are like "wow, you probably have an extreme infection or should've killed you eventually". BUT it's convenient when you have Naiad born soldiers that can "heal you up" (Penelope's brothers are part of Menelaus' army btw!!! :D )

It's kind of why it's become a "If a man is still alive when they're picked up and rescued, that doesn't mean shit. A naiad born person will fix it before they even bleed out. If they don't die instantly, they just come back."

Same with fighting among nymphs btw.

Even if you're naiad born, you can't just act like how you do at home with a foreign river. Feel free to jump and swim and wet your scales but stay out of their business. If the naiads of Athens decided to punish people by poisoning the waters, you, as a Spartan naiadborn, do not meddle! Can't start purifying it to give to the citizens. Maybe for your OWN people who came with you on the foreign expedition if you ask but don't meddle with foreign river problems. Each culture is different.

Took a while for Penelope to adjust and improve relations with Ithaca naiads because of this. And when Tyndareus and Icarius were exiled, it was a culture shock for them as they're 50% naiad. Even with non-naiadborn, it's a shock. Menelaus and Agamemnon were in Sparta during their own exile had to adjust too, though Menelaus definitely fit right in. (I'm so excited to write about 18-20 year old Agamemnon's first interaction with 9 year old Penelope. It's a misunderstanding at first but it's wholesome. Spoiler: Have you ever been in a place and then a random little kid starts talking to you and then they give you a leaf or something? YEAH >:D It's that but sillier. It's cute.)

Honestly, I'm playing around a lot with the whole "Sparta being very military-focused" thing as it's really kind of fun to think of people having children with naiads/naiadborn as somewhat of a strategy. If you can't have demigods, nymph born children are still better than fully mortal ones. It's why there ARE so many naiad born and why interactions are basically informal in Sparta in my fics compared to other places. Like Ithaca.

I got really offtrack but in conclusion: There are special rules and customs of each freshwater source. And how battles are affected by it. Telemachus doesn't bite any of the suitors but probably uses water to help him and to heal his and Eumeaus' wounds.

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AUGHHH

I'm crying really crying, this is the sweetest most gust-wrenching post that my eyes had the chance to look at!! TT

I'm so happy we came up with the idea!!!( ´;ﾟ;∀;ﾟ;)

Now Odysseus getting inked is one of the most random and in a way cute headcannons ever! 😆

Like:

Agamemnon: Hey, Menelaus. Where is Odysseus? Cannot find him anywhere

Menalaus: Probably by the ships. It was resupply day today.

Agamemnon: But that was hours ago. What on earth is he doing?

Menelaus: Yeah you are probably right let's go and check it out

*They find Odysseus on the beach sitting on a rock while a Scythian probably covered in tattoos of his people is tattooing his upper arm*

Agamemnon: Odysseus, what in the gods' names are you doing?

Odysseus: Oh, can't you see? I am getting a tattoo from this man. He is very good actually.

Agamemnon: Seriously?! We are at war and this is a military camp!

Odysseus: Don't worry, he's cool. I checked.

Menelaus: But weren't you wounded a couple of days ago? Surely shouldn't you be taking it easy? I know they call you "equal to gods" but you ain't immortal

Odysseus: No worries. I am accustomed to pain. This is nothing.

Agamemnon: Even so! That is not a king's behavior. What is wrong with you?!

Odysseus: Why not? Besides look!

*shows his half-done olive branch tattoo*

Odysseus: Olive for my homeland, flowers for my wife and the bittersweet fruit is my dear Telemachus. I want my family with me. I might die tomorrow and my body will not be buried to my land. I want my family with me to the funeral pyre...

Menelaus: *sniffing loudly* You know, brother, you have to admit that is the most fucking adorable thing ever!

Agamemnon: Humph! Whatever! *turns around to hide a manly tear*

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Even better imagine the funny and adorable interaction with Penelope! Hahahahaha like:

Penelope: *sees the tat when she prepares Odysseus for bed* Darling...what is this exactly?

Odysseus: *innocently looking for he had forgotten he had it* Oh, this? I got it at war...

Penelope: But but...this isn't exactly the most...noble behavior isn't it?

Odysseus: Well...it wasn't very "noble" where I was, Penelope but still look here...

*touching the branch*

Odysseus: Olive branch for our homeland...our bed and palace...

*tracing the tiny flowers*

Odysseus: Flowers for my beautiful wife, whom I longed for, for years

*pointing the olives*

Odysseus: the sweet fruit of my dear Telemachus whom I never saw growing and this...

*touching a tiny detail that looks like the silhouette of a bird*

Odysseus: The bird, the swallow coming home is me. I swore to come back to you no matter what I would need to do. Back to our land and our sweet Telemachus

*Penelope smiling now touched and embraces his neck*

Penelope: I still am not sure that I like this idea but it looks good because it is you who has it...

Sorry guys hahahaha 😆 random cheesy brainstorming. Blame my dialog with @aaronofithaca05 for it hahahaha 😆

Isn't this Poseidon modus operandi?

When the waves smack your ass, the ocean is actually sexually harassing you

I-

You can't-

I don't like how much this makes sense.....

Oh my-

Diomedes: You tried to stab me.

Odysseus: OVER THE PALLADIUM! That's how important you're to me.

Athena: Interesting, let the man talk.

Diomedes: He's playing with your pride, Athena. Don't listen to him.

Athena: Be more lenient. You know he has problems.

Diomedes: He has- I've been nothing but obedient to you but "he has problems"! Your favor, that's what he has.

Athena: I have no favorites. I let you hurt two gods.

Diomedes: You commanded me to hurt two gods.

Athena: How would you like to hurt Aphrodite again?

Diomedes: No, I want Odysseus punished.

Athena: Fine. You get to your home safe. And you get home after ten horrible years.

Diomedes: Deal.

Odysseus: No deal. I want to see my wife!

Athena: No, do not look at me with those eyes. You've been nasty out there.

Odysseus: I'm not nasty, I'm family driven.

Diomedes: *sighing* goddess, you're smiling.

Athena: He's adorable!