Odysseus And Penelope - Tumblr Posts
Odysseus's fixation upon his son could possibly be explained by the timeline.
A small thing that needs to be said is that according to Homer Odysseus left Telemachus a "newborn" (or at least so Menelaus says in the Odyssey). Interestingly is hard to tell how long Odysseus and Penelope have been married before they had Telemachus because the time line is not cut and clear.
It seems like their marriage took place during the oath of Tyndareus period when Odysseus was at Sparta as a suitor to Helen. From the Oath till Helen's infidelity or abduction or forced seduction by Aphrodite we see there were around 10 years of difference (quite frankly according to some accounts Helen mentions she was 20 years in Troy). That means that he and Penelope were potentially married at least a decade (which makes sense given that he made a wedding bed for her from scratch making it seem that their palace was also being rebuilt at that time)
But if Telemachus was newborn or almost newborn (like let's say about 1 year old tops) that means that Odysseus and Penelope were childless for almost a decade. Either that means they were having some issues aka Odysseus running errands in the kingdom or that they were trying very hard to have children and somehow they couldn't
Do you imagine what this means?
Odysseus potentially had to leave behind a son he wished for for almost a decade full and not to mention that Palamedes nearly killed him, that very son that he potentially tried so hard for and wished for so much!
Hell no wonder he names himself "Father of Telemachus" and quite frankly one can understand why he would hold a grudge against Palamedes (be it Higenius you follow where he frames him or be it Pausanias who says he drowned him) one can imagine why his brain would snap like that! If this hypothesis is correct that is.
i wanna redraw the drawing with penelope in it since i drew that over a month ago actually
penelope + sirenelope
headcanon that odysseus and penelope were super competitive when they first met and super in denial about their feelings so them getting married was actually the worlds first game of chicken
is anybody else getting tony/pepper vibes from odysseus/penelope?? bc this just clicked in my brain
Nothing can make me happy:
3,000-year-old epic exists
The Iliad and the Odyssey will fix my life <3
Bonus:
Odysseus about Panelope
how the fuck do you look at such a beautiful quote like that and thing "this is so odysus and peleople''. G*d you theyfabs are all the same, go and experience some actual culture rather then making everything about characters from whatever shitty 2000s thing convinced you you were a 'cute boi'. 'enbies' and fandomites have ruined every online space theyve touched. please read little women or pride and prejudice or something that will make you actually feel like a woman
Hate to break it to you terf, but Odysseus and Penelope aren't from the 2000s.
Don't pretend to be cultured just because you read that one mediocre Victorian woman book in high school if you don't recognize the names of characters from the foundational text of all western literature.
Also note that every single fascist movement claims its targets are ruining intellectual spaces by existing in them. You aren't special because you're painted pink.
Just finished Circe by Madeline Miller and OMG!!! OMFG!
It's beautifully written. But that ending? WOW.
As a Telemachas lover and Odysseus hater this has me finished. Dead. Done. Buried.
Hope you enjoy it and wear it with proud!
If in two years I still like tattoos then I'm going to have one too; don't know where but i'm dying for a traditional one.
And If Odysseus has inked an olive branch; I'm dead, absolutely dead or a dear or something!
Oh god what a about matching tATTOS???? Aahhh!!!.
Ody's inker comes to Ithaca and the two have a matching one where only can be formed with the two together and it looks like a scar or something when not together. I'm not sorry this is my new Headcanon for now on!.
I have had my first tattoo yesterday ☺️ and that had me thinking about the Odyssey hahaha 😆 (I have had an Ancient themed tattoo to connect me with my homeland Greece)
Tattooing in classical Greece was kinda shady subject and usually it was linked with prisoners slaves or foreigners (for example Skythians ) but was this the same in homeric times or much more to bronze age Greece? Hehehe
And now I imagine Odysseus had gotten inked while he was at war or going to war and returning and Penelope giving him a shady look 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
(Of course she would smile if our boy told her it symbolizes her and Telemachus 🥰)
AUGHHH
I'm crying really crying, this is the sweetest most gust-wrenching post that my eyes had the chance to look at!! TT
I'm so happy we came up with the idea!!!( ´;ﾟ;∀;ﾟ;)
Now Odysseus getting inked is one of the most random and in a way cute headcannons ever! 😆
Like:
Agamemnon: Hey, Menelaus. Where is Odysseus? Cannot find him anywhere
Menalaus: Probably by the ships. It was resupply day today.
Agamemnon: But that was hours ago. What on earth is he doing?
Menelaus: Yeah you are probably right let's go and check it out
*They find Odysseus on the beach sitting on a rock while a Scythian probably covered in tattoos of his people is tattooing his upper arm*
Agamemnon: Odysseus, what in the gods' names are you doing?
Odysseus: Oh, can't you see? I am getting a tattoo from this man. He is very good actually.
Agamemnon: Seriously?! We are at war and this is a military camp!
Odysseus: Don't worry, he's cool. I checked.
Menelaus: But weren't you wounded a couple of days ago? Surely shouldn't you be taking it easy? I know they call you "equal to gods" but you ain't immortal
Odysseus: No worries. I am accustomed to pain. This is nothing.
Agamemnon: Even so! That is not a king's behavior. What is wrong with you?!
Odysseus: Why not? Besides look!
*shows his half-done olive branch tattoo*
Odysseus: Olive for my homeland, flowers for my wife and the bittersweet fruit is my dear Telemachus. I want my family with me. I might die tomorrow and my body will not be buried to my land. I want my family with me to the funeral pyre...
Menelaus: *sniffing loudly* You know, brother, you have to admit that is the most fucking adorable thing ever!
Agamemnon: Humph! Whatever! *turns around to hide a manly tear*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Even better imagine the funny and adorable interaction with Penelope! Hahahahaha like:
Penelope: *sees the tat when she prepares Odysseus for bed* Darling...what is this exactly?
Odysseus: *innocently looking for he had forgotten he had it* Oh, this? I got it at war...
Penelope: But but...this isn't exactly the most...noble behavior isn't it?
Odysseus: Well...it wasn't very "noble" where I was, Penelope but still look here...
*touching the branch*
Odysseus: Olive branch for our homeland...our bed and palace...
*tracing the tiny flowers*
Odysseus: Flowers for my beautiful wife, whom I longed for, for years
*pointing the olives*
Odysseus: the sweet fruit of my dear Telemachus whom I never saw growing and this...
*touching a tiny detail that looks like the silhouette of a bird*
Odysseus: The bird, the swallow coming home is me. I swore to come back to you no matter what I would need to do. Back to our land and our sweet Telemachus
*Penelope smiling now touched and embraces his neck*
Penelope: I still am not sure that I like this idea but it looks good because it is you who has it...
Sorry guys hahahaha 😆 random cheesy brainstorming. Blame my dialog with @aaronofithaca05 for it hahahaha 😆
You're one if not the most influential person in my headcanons, first the skythian tattoo, now this, oh god... So much inspiration!!!!!!
Isn't it freaking adorable how both Odysseus and Penelope could remember down to exact detail what clothing she had packed for Odysseus before he left for war even 20 years later?!
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
And she packed them herself. She didn't use the help of any servant or slave to do it. She wanted to prepare her husband herself. What is even more is that all the clothes were of vibrant colors which had me thinking;
What if Penelope deliberately prepared vibrant colored clothes for Odysseus solely so that she could see him from afar for as long as possible?! And man I can so imagine her doing the same! Like standing on the top of the hill where the palace is, wearing a vibrant dress that floats in the wind, holding baby Telemachus in her arms and watch Odysseus's bright tunic on the ship and Odysseus turning his head to look up at that aetherial figure on the hill almost leaning over the ship to see her JUST FOR A LITTLE LONGER until he cannot see her anymore and this is where he keeps looking at his island becoming smaller and smaller to the horizon, shedding tears of goodbye
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Man ninjas are cutting onions around me again!!!
Does anyone have an Ody×Pen music playlist?
I have two songs only and I want to know more songs, so I can cry to when I please,
And as many songs a s you like it!:
Mine are:
que recordarás (Penelope's persepective of the Odyssey)
Agarrate fuerte a mí María (Odysseus saying fareawell to Telemachus, (me buscan unos amigos por algo que no cumplí, some friends are searching me for something I didn't did, upholding the oath)
Someone's cuting onions T T.
Mirando al cielo (Y que hago aquí, a 10 mil km de tus besos, besando banderas, abriendo fuego, cavando trincheras si te echo de menos)
And what I do here, 10 thousand km from your kisses, kissing flags, op4ning fire, digging trenches if i long for you...
I LOVE THEM SO SO SO MUCH!!!
Try to draw them when i get home!
Pen and Ody
@athamad pss.... I have the good stuff.....
I'm so normal about Odypen it's craaaaaazy
*hides odypen head canons folder slowly*
What absolute garbage have I seen?
I don't have words, I feel.........don't know how to say it, like....cold sweats.........
Damn, that was horrible and I feel horrible for the one who was asked, like how? Why? But what an absolute answer they delivered!, it was perfect!
how the fuck do you look at such a beautiful quote like that and thing "this is so odysus and peleople''. G*d you theyfabs are all the same, go and experience some actual culture rather then making everything about characters from whatever shitty 2000s thing convinced you you were a 'cute boi'. 'enbies' and fandomites have ruined every online space theyve touched. please read little women or pride and prejudice or something that will make you actually feel like a woman
Hate to break it to you terf, but Odysseus and Penelope aren't from the 2000s.
Don't pretend to be cultured just because you read that one mediocre Victorian woman book in high school if you don't recognize the names of characters from the foundational text of all western literature.
Also note that every single fascist movement claims its targets are ruining intellectual spaces by existing in them. You aren't special because you're painted pink.
I’ve been obsessed with Percy Jackson since I was 11, and EPIC since Warrior of the Mind was trending
Only option is to combine them
Annabeth is Odysseus’ reincarnation and Percy is Penelope’s
None of the other characters are reincarnations but the give Anndysseus PTSD (Grover, Thalia, and Luke specifically)
The gods are from EPIC meaning Athena is a good mum and loves Annabeth (She cried when she realised who Annabeth was (which she learned before everyone else))
Both Anndysseus and Pernelope have dreams of their past but chalk it up to godly weirdness.
Annabeth will have knowledge about something she shouldn’t be capable of knowing (Child of Athena, right?) and Percy is way to ocean-y (The genes are strong with this one, Poseidon)