I'm Still Very Confused About How Would Steve Know About The Truth Of Who Killed Tony's Parents.

I'm still very confused about how would Steve know about the truth of who killed Tony's parents.

People say the in the end of the first Cap movie, the last scene, it was hinted that he'd know. But I seriously don't remember that

And even when Steve worked for SHIELD, not even them know who actually was the Winter Soldier, and when Steve figured who it was, all the files from SHIELD were already released by Natasha. So if Steve knew, Tony would also know. Because they'd have access to same files, and everybody knew Bucky Barnes from the WWW2

So, how would Steve know? Canonically, within all the movies?

I think the scene you are referring is the one in the former SHIELD hideout in that one abandoned military complex Steve and Natasha go to. While talking to Zola, who boasts about Hydra having influenced internationally important events, there's a monitor that shows a bunch of pictures in quick succession. One of them was an article about Howard and Maria Stark's death in a car crash. The problem is... it's blink and you miss it. I watched the movie several times and you only recognise it if you pause. I never did that. That's why Steve's confession that he knew about Bucky killing Tony's parents came at a total surprise to me. I even thought that Steve was lying to divert Tony's anger from Bucky to himself. I only came upon a post about this one scene months later and realistically, I don't know how Steve was supposed to see this headline about Howard dying and immediately conclude that Bucky was the one who killed him. Maybe I'm not remembering the conversation right, but it just didn't make sense to me for the longest time. Now I know that the Russos simply needed to sow some conflict for Civil War. Which is why Steve does something that seems so out of character for him.

You are right that logically, Tony definitely should have known the truth about his parents' murder. As long as the Winter Soldier files were uploaded along with all the others. I don't really remember if they were, however, so I'd be grateful if someone else could chime in and clear this up for us. In this scenario, Tony could have easily found out the truth, if he bothered to have one of his AIs sort through the material, at least. And if he didn't then… that's kind of on him. Steve could have easily believed that Tony knew all along and still taken the blame in the hopes of distracting Tony from Bucky. But Steve antis are so focused on blaming Steve for every wrong ever committed in the MCU (and comics) that we can't have that discussion.

i love him your honor

CHRIS EVANS as Steve Rogers in MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE (2011-2019)

guys

what the fuck

is this

these are real live grown ass men

they are not fictional characters for you to play with

ship what you want, but for fuck’s sake, keep it in your own community

don’t bring your horny bullshit into their comments because you want to see two white guys fucking

baffling that i’m still seeing tonkies say that “t*ny wasn’t trying to kill bucky!!!1!!!1! his suit is too ultra mega powerful, if he was trying to kill him he would have uwu” when the filmmakers of cw have said that he was trying to kill bucky

like who do you think you should believe, your imaginary version of t*ny where he’s A Good Person or the people who actually worked on the movie

also literally just watch the movie, he aims missiles at bucky’s face at least twice and you can bet your ass he wouldn’t have survived if they had hit

Can white people write POC as main characters?

@horse-faced-activist-gay said:

Recently a writing group I “audit” had a discussion about white authors writing poc, and the unanimous takeaway was “of course do it, just never as the pov/main character(s).” The argument was that no matter how careful or well researched, the pov will always come off like a white character in “digital blackface.” That there needed to be a good reason to write from that perspective, ie if the character’s race changed it should change the story? My pov character is Black; I’m white. I’ve been following this blog a long time and implementing the advice, but is the essence of me trying to write from her perspective misguided? I’ve now seen more than one author echo these sentiments. Is this just an excuse for white authors to avoid writing poc in lead roles, or an attempt not to overstep readers/authors of color? I’m very confused; any help would be greatly appreciated.

YES. 

White people absolutely can write PoC as main characters if not the protagonists of their stories! 

I didn’t create this blog for people to make PoC side characters 24/7! Not at all. Please write People of Color as main characters, no matter who you are.

- Colette

More reading: WWC General Topics Compilation

W a o.

Such toxic virtue signaling! If I’m being charitable, at best this is cowardice. At worst, this is the kind of BS discourse that is used to attack writers of color when they attempt anything besides personal memoirs. I recommend finding a new writing group. 

- Marika

Very concerned about the state of this writing group. 

~ Mod Rina

P.S. You’re right, OP, it is definitely an excuse.