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Dc Always Be Little The Other Characters To Give The Illusion That Bruce Did Nothing Wrong So Don't Be
Dc always be little the other characters to give the illusion that bruce did nothing wrong so don't be surprised at the story's lack of logic
I've been trying to write a longer post about Damian's last story in the Robin 80th anniversary special for a few days now because it's the lead up to Bruce and Damian's confrontation in the next Teen Titans Annual, but the whole storyline of them having a falling-out is such a mess, it's hard to make definitive statements about anything.
The set-up in No Justice was badly executed. Yes, Damian disagrees with Bruce on some pages but it's not really important to their later conflict. We never saw their big fight, it happened off-panel. So the beginning is already vague as hell. Nothing in No Justice was tied to Damian personally, so it always felt like a pretty weak excuse to get Damian away from his father. The whole thing felt tacked on.

Also, it's not like Damian didn't give Bruce hints towards why he's angry at him so I don't know why Bruce seems to clueless in the Robin special.
Glass's reasoning for Damian's actions in Teen Titans never convinced me and felt like a huge step back for the character. To this day the book makes it sound like Bruce and Damian aren't on speaking terms and Damian isn't coming home anymore.
The first time Bruce wanted to fix things was in Detective Comics, but everything in that arc turned out to be part of a simulation. So in reality they still had their issues, didn't talk about it, but Damian was at home in the batcave when Bruce woke up anyway:

Maybe Damian wanted to congratulate Bruce on his birthday even though they supposedly weren't talking to each other, I don't know, the story never told me. It also didn't tell me why Damian was still there in the next arc and working alongside Bruce to take down the Arkham Knight just fine. Damian even stayed for several days because Bruce was temporarily blind at the end of the story and Damian got to drive the batmobile for him.
Damian also came when Bruce used the red batsignal in the main Batman book to call for help, unlike Ric, Jason and Stephanie who were at odds with Bruce at the time too and refused. Later he went along with Bruce's plan to send him into Gotham alone during the City of Bane arc to fight Gotham Girl, get himself beaten up, taken hostage and held at gunpoint by Flashpoint Thomas Wayne. He also said this during the arc:


Which speaks of his loyalty to Bruce and to the bat-family, considering he's supposed to be at odds with Bruce, Alfred compared him to Ra's Al-Ghul in their last known conversation and Damian has either a complicated or a non-existent relationship with everyone present in the last panel. Yeah, honestly that little speech doesn't make a lot of sense.
After Alfred's death Damian still comes when Bruce asks for assistance with a case after Lucius pestered Bruce into taking care of the missing children cases in one of his orphanages while Bruce was busy with taking down a gang:

At the end Bruce talks about how it's their responsibility as Wayne's to take care of the kids at the orphanages they own, Bruce builds another wing for the orphanage and Bruce and Damian seem to be on good terms at its opening two months later:

When Bruce finally calls the family for a meeting/wake for Alfred after Bruce build a hospital in memory of their (grand)father figure Damian is probably the character who is the least angry at Bruce for what happened:

And Damian still seems to come home to the manor after Alfred's death...to eat I guess:

And now we have this story:


So Robin has been off the grid for months and the few times they did run into each other he has been cold to Bruce? I mean I guess that's true in some stories, but definitely not all and even in the stories where DC hints at their conflict Damian still ends up helping Bruce. And apparently he's not "off the grid" enough to not come home. I'm...confused by this storyline.
Judging from my analysis I'm not sure why Bruce is lamenting about Damian not living up to his values of loyalty and family, since Damian seems pretty happy to go along with whatever plan his father comes up with in most comics, even if it includes a high risk to his own life. Like Bruce's dumbass plan in City of Bane or spending several days in a snowstorm searching for another child. The fact that both in Detective Comics #1017 and Pennyworth RIP Bruce is shown to be the person who changes the topic when Damian complains about their relationship and refuses to go after his son to comfort him even after Barbara pushes him to do so also makes me wonder how Damian is supposed to strive towards these values when Bruce does such a bad job trying to live by them himself.
I know DC hinted in Justice League #39 that reality is broken and maybe that works as an in-universe explanation for this mess, but as a consumer this is simply unpleasant to read. When I read an issue dealing with this storyline I don't know if they're on speaking terms or not, if Damian still follows Bruce's orders or not or even if Damian still lives at the manor sometimes or only with his team.
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What kind of fucked up world are we living in where the best Damian characterization we have at the moment is from a zombie AU
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Okay so can we all just pretend Teen Titans by Adam Glass never existed, thanks.
Are you insane!!! don't give DC ideas
If you really want to fuck with Batman
You should kill all his children with a gun. In the alley where his parents were killed.
This hurts on so many levels, so many...
Since I’ve become known on here for making lists here’s a list of comic panels that make me so horrifically and inconsolably upset that I wanna rip my own face off
(fair warning a lot of these involve child death because this is dc we’re talking about)
1. Dick comes back from a mission in space and finds out that Jason died

The New Titans #55
2. Bruce promises a dying Steph that he will ensure the baby she gave up “will never want for anything”

Batman: War Games (2005) Act 3 #8
3. This specific artist’s version of Bruce holding Jason’s body

(I can’t find the source no matter how hard I look I’m so sorry)
4. Bruce hugs Damian’s torn Robin uniform to his chest shortly after Damian died

Batman and Robin (2011) #18
5. Roy wonders if Lian’s last words were “daddy help”

Justice League: The Rise of Arsenal #1
6. Also, Roy saying “love you, Lian” when he thinks he’s about to die

The Flash 2021 Annual vol 1 #1
7. Donna snaps her zombified baby’s neck

Blackest Night: Titans
8. Barbara gets frustrated with Cass’s inability to read and calls her stupid

Batgirl (2000) #54
9. Bruce beats the Joker while yelling Jason’s name

Batman: Knightfall vol 1
10. Alfred promises 8 year old Bruce that he’ll teach him how to use a rapier “like Zorro” if he agrees to go to his parents’ funeral

Batman: Curse of the White Knight #7