Do You Think D&D Jon Act In Character Or Out Of Character By Rebuffing Dany For Good Because Of Their

Do you think D&D Jon act in character or out of character by rebuffing Dany for good because of their relation? I read somewhere there were some uncle-niece marriages in the Stark ancestry, so I don’t know how icky it is for people in the North.

Anon, I love this question. Yes, absolutely! Jon’s repulsion to aunt incest is a bit too modern, if you ask me. Wish the writers, too, understood that he lives in Westeros, not on fucking Earth.

First of all, let’s take a look at what incest actually means in Westeros, according to the wiki:

“The two main religions practiced in the Seven Kingdoms, the Faith of the Seven and the old gods, consider incest to be a vile sin. However in Westeros incest is only applied if father lays with daughter, mother lays with son, or brother to sister, and the children of such unions are considered abominations.”

No mention of aunt and nephew. Further:

“In marriage customs, it is acceptable and in fact quite common among the nobility for cousins to wed. Examples include Tywin and Joanna Lannister (first cousins), and Rickard and Lyarra Stark (first cousins once removed).”

(For those who don’t know, those are Ned’s parents)

So, House Stark is down with cousin marriage, as well as almost-cousin-marriage in present day:

“A marriage has been proposed between Robert Arryn and Sansa Stark (first cousins), to which the degree of common ancestry was not an objection.”

And we get a little more info on incest within House Stark:

“The views regarding marriages between an uncle and a niece (or an aunt to a nephew) might differ between the Faith and the old gods. Although the High Septon protested against a possible marriage between Prince Maegor Targaryen and his niece Rhaena, in the north, Serena Stark had been wed to her half-uncle, Edric, while her sister Sansa Stark had been wed to her half-uncle Jonnel Stark. The only exception to condemnation of incest in Westeros is when it occurs in House Targaryen.”

Whether or not Jon grew up in the north, he’s still a Targaryen - whose royal incestuous marriages were a part of his lineage:

“In the Valyrian Freehold, it was custom among the dragonlords to marry brother to sister, or, if that was not possible, an uncle to a niece, or an aunt to a nephew.”

And considering that the only people to ride dragons in GoT were both Targaryens, this idea that “The line must be kept pure”, the implication here is that dragonriders must preserve their magical blood by doubling up on it.

All of that aside…

It appears that the foreshadowing involving Daenerys overcoming the Mirri Maz Duur ‘curse’ was all for nought, anyway. So then, if Daenerys really is infertile and cannot bear children, then what exactly makes it so gross or appalling? If there is no threat of ‘deformed’ or ‘mad’ children?

And speaking of foreshadowing, the fuck was this shit about?:

The fuck were lines like this all about?:

“Five Aegons had ruled the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. There would have been a sixth, but the Usurper’s dogs had murdered her brother’s son when he was still a babe at the breast. If he had lived, I might have married him.”

Why do we get so much information about incest, specifically Targaryen incest, such as “the Doctrine of Exceptionalism, which permitted incestuous marriages for Targaryens, as the Gods had made Valyrians differently from the Andals.” - which went on to become an official tenet of the Faith of the Seven - if it never comes into play?

“Foreshadowing? I don’t know her.”

TL;DR:

Jon’s Stark side of the family practices incest (albeit to a very slightly lesser degree, but incest all the same).

Jon’s Targaryen side has been marrying brother to sister or aunt to nephew for thousands of years.

Targaryen incest is excused by a tenet of the largest religion in Westeros - the one practiced in King’s Landing, in which Daenerys intended to rule.

While Jon’s religion, the old gods, view incest as vile, it is specifically stated that it means parent/child or sibling incest, whereas aunt/nephew marriage seems to be excluded.

dany acting like a big sister to missandei:

sansa being a big sister to arya:

jon & dany soulmatism

D&D: There was something cHIiLLiNG about the way Dany watched Viserys die.

Us, having war flashbacks about Jaime throwing Bran out a window, Arya cooking the Freys into pies, Tyrion strangling Shae, Sansa feeding Ramsay to the hounds, Jon executing Olly:

I find it so intriguing that the arguments put forth by the Greens against the Blacks were that there shouldn't be a woman who should rule and no bastard should do so either and now, in ASOIAF, that's what is left of House Targaryen, a girl and a boy with a bastard's name.