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The way antis just ignore GRRM literally confirming in an interview that slavery in the world he created was based off of the Roman Empire's in which slavery wasn't based off of race,so all kinds of people could be enslaved due to victories in war of the opposing side regardless of skin color like in other areas in the real world throughout history.Not to mention GRRM recognized and acknowledged the casting choices of the slaves in GoT based off of the options of those who auditioned for the cameos in the filming location of foreign country in another continent,Morocco (if I remember correctly),which isn't accurate to the slaves Dany (who is literally a former sex slave to Khal Drogo in spite of being forced into a marriage with him against her will as evident in Dany chapters before the wedding the handmaidens helping her freshen and dress up tell her Khal Drogo is so rich even his slaves wear golden collars while they are closing the golden torque around her neck,which creeps Dany out because she's actually very perceptive btw) frees who vary in background,race,ethnicity,and skin color,meaning white slaves exist toođ¤Śđžââď¸
It's a fact that Dany's story is riddled with violence against women of color and that she's the perpetrator in several cases, so mentioning her race is actually necessary (Sansa being white has no bearing on her story because again, she never hurt or killed any woc). Besides burning Mirri, r*ping Irri and torturing the wineseller's daughter, she also slaps Eroeh in the face. She looted one city, destroyed another to gain an army of slaves, took over another one for a trial run at ruling and plans to abandon it to invade and destroy a continent that she (and the thousands of warlords she's bringing with her) has never been to to demand fealty from people who don't want her as their queen. Why don't you at least acknowledge that Dany is written as a villain and that your hatred of Sansa is, by comparison, irrational?
It's ironic that the biggest criticism of how George writes characters of color is that he uses them in service of white characters' arcs and that's exactly what you've decided to do in my inbox. Nothing about liking these characters, wanting to see more of their stories, or wanting better for them. Nothing about wanting to start a conversation about the racism in George's writing. Nope. Just you using these characters of color and their suffering, which you supposedly care about, as props because you feel a "pure", white character is being unfairly hated. I have to laugh. The only "hate" I've given to Sansa is disliking her annoying stans and pointing out how she's written in the books but apparently, that's enough to have you clutching your pearls.
And the thing about racism is that, for Dany to be capable of being racist, it would mean that race HAS to be a factor in their society. That would mean that Sansa, as a white woman, would subsequently benefit from her white identity. Which is why I found that so funny from the first ask you sent. You can't just decide that race is only a factor in a single character's story. I get it though, you haven't actually thought any of this through because your only motivation is to put down Dany and prop up Sansa. This is how I know you don't care at all about racism and you're just copying talking points you've heard instead of thinking for yourself.
sansa - blabbing something about daenerys, her army and dragons bla bla what dragons eat anyway whatever
daenerys - sweetie, do you want us to leave? you think you can beat the dead army without us? one more word and we're out
sansa -
curtain.
sansa - blabbing something about daenerys, her army and dragons bla bla what dragons eat anyway whatever
daenerys - sweetie, do you want us to leave? you think you can beat the dead army without us? one more word and we're out
sansa -
curtain.
POL JON RIDDLES
HELP ME OUT GUYS
Riddle #1: IT'S GREED AND TYRANNY WHEN DANY WANTS TO TAKE BACK HER FAMILY'S DYNASTY but it's righteous and right and empowering when the Starks (Sansa) want to take back the North. THE TARGARYENS ARE THE REAL COLONIZERS NO DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
Riddle #2: Dany's love is cheap compared to her greed for the Iron Throne!!!11
...So why does Jon need to sexually use, abuse, manipulate, and fake his love for the power crazed Dany ala Pol!Jon to steal her armies and dragons if her worthless love is so cheap then...? It's not like sex is going to help out Jon's lacking martial forces much or add sense to the non-sensical Pol!Jon. Or what, does that not fulfill the Jonsa teen scene dreams of sweet sweet betrayal for thy true love Sansa?
Riddle #3:
"It's preposterous to think Jon, who has always tried to do the right thing, would betray(or even kill) his aunt just for shits and giggles."
So what is Jon, Jonsas? An uber asshole who is Sansa's personal garbage disposal? And will callously abuse, use, and manipulate a rape victim? Or does he have a conscience? Because yeah, I think the the two are mutually exclusive here. How does a decent person with a conscience (who Jon is supposed to be) do this to... anyone? Why would Jon do this to Dany? What has Dany done to warrant this? Conquer? Robb Stark, Jon's brother and best friend. Stannis Baratheon, the claimant Jon supported in ADWD. The Young Dragon, Jon's idol. How dare Dany want to take back her family's dynasty! Just like the Starks!! All the Northern houses love the Starks and want them back! (Except the ones who don't) The Skagosi too!! (Except they keep rebelling when the Starks try to force them to submit...) But seriously, since when does Jon hate Targaryen conquests? Or... Targaryens? But I digress, let's look at Pol!Jon. In contrast, Pol!Jon hates the young conquerer Dany! How dare Dany conquest!! Pol!Jon doesn't idolize the Dorne-invading dragon-riding Young Dragon!! Eww!!! But here's the thing: nothing about Pol!Jon makes Jon the hero as this particular Jonsa likes to argue. Everything makes him the asshole -- from every angle. Jon can't be a hero performing 100% villainous, unnecessary, and stupid stupid actions all so he can dispose of one girl (Dany) so he can go ahead and marry another girl (Sansa) who looked down on him in childhood for wholly classist reasons. (No no, no misogyny here!) Everything Jon does in this scenario justifies Dany (or Dany's supporters) going to war against him -- and the North -- because it's treason. How can Jon realistically get away with that. How would GRRM let Jon realistically get away with that. For Jonsa?
It doesn't matter how much of an asshole you are dying for Dany to be, it won't make Pol!Jon any less of an asshole in his characterization or actions toward Dany.
And if Pol!Jon hates Dany so much that he's willing to abuse, use, and callously exploit a rape victim when her love for him is apparently so "cheap" (because apparently, these are your versions of them), it seems like he is doing extreme stuff for shits and giggles -- and to make the situation far far worse (handing Dany a reason to go to war against the North, intentions to start another civil war despite multiple wars going on and the North's lacking resources, making an enemy of a powerful queen and during a time of probable desperation...).
I'd call that psychotic. (On another note, I'm a Jon stan but... uh, there are times in ASOIAF when Jon does not do quite the right thing...)
I know Aegony has been theorized as endgame ship for a reason but imo those are the same people who have grossly mischaracterized something about Dany and Jon.
The irony.
They are the same ones who have denied Dark Dany and insist how her greed for the IT was actually just her doing her duty as the last Targ and that Sansa was the power hungry one actually.
Hilariously, this happened in the same show Jonsa never became close to canon (not matter what Jonsa conspiracy theories say), the same show in which Sansa kept risking the life of her "beloved" brother Jon and betrayed him multiple times (funny, Dany never did that...), and the same show of which GRRM has repeatedly said his ending would be different. Oops :) And Jonsas wonder why the fandom has a problem with them.
um.
Yes. Thank-you Sansa for:
1) Lying to Jon for unknown reasons all season long.
2) Pissing off every house on-screen on that Northern tour.
3) Shitting on one (of two) people who got the Starks some of the only help for their army during that god-forsaken Northern tour which was 62 more people than you got, Sansa.
4) Trying to first a) strong-arm and guilt-trip a recently killed, newly resurrected, and freshly traumatized Jon into risking his life in a battle for a castle he was repeatedly reminded by Sansa's mother and society at large he had no place in; b) trying to make him force the wildlings he saved into forming an army for that battle; c) and then, when Jon told Sansa no, invoking saving Rickon to push Jon into saying yes; and finally, d) telling Jon on the night before that battle, to give up Rickon for dead* (when Rickon was the only reason why Jon is fighting at all).
Jon (a bastard) and Sansa (a daughter/married to a Lannister and then to a Bolton) just standing by and letting Ned Stark's trueborn son and heir getting murdered by Ramsay Bolton. That'll look good. Really politically savvy there, Sansa.
5) Withholding an offer of an entire f*cking army from Jon and his forces who'd be risking their lives on the battle field against far greater forces than their own. They develop a strategy because their army is so small and believe this is their best viable move against their enemy. Sansa huffs and puffs angrily in the background over not being sent an engraved invitation for her exalted opinion ("Don't do what he wants you to do!!") despite never not needing said invitation before during previous war councils (6x05) or the Northern tour (6x07) where she led talks. OBVIOUS SEXISM HAPPENING HERE OBVIOUSLY. Jon asks Sansa, "When will we have more men?!" Sansa says nothing: not of the offer Littlefinger made of the Vale army, not that she had written to accept said offer, nada.
Thousands of wildlings and likely a big chunk of Mormonts die. Rickon lays smashed and dead on the ground. A bloodied and battered Jon is suffocating under a crush of bodies. A spotless and fresh Sansa and LF ride in together atop clean white horses as the Knights of the Vale crush the Bolton host.... you know, after loads of damage has already been done.
THANKS SANSA.
Personally, I think Jon should have thanked Sansa by revealing her season 6 activities that occurred behind his back to his new Northern vassals when he was crowned king, the contents of their pre-battle conversation (ie. Sansa urging Jon to let Rickon die) and then let the Northern lords yell it out before deciding the loudest voice chooses her.... uh, "reward".
âA grim place, Dragonstone was built by Valyrians with arcane arts, fire, and sorcery. Capable of liquefying and reshaping stone with dragonflame, the dragonlords used their magic to shape Dragonstone to look like multiple dragons.â - GRRM, The World of Ice and Fire.
Book Dragonstone runs through my head a LOT because D&D couldâve went so hard with it. Itâs so beautiful.
Art in order - Marc Simonetti, StrangeQuarkk, JordiGart, and I couldnât find the artist for the last oneđ
The way the house of the dragon writers always lick their own assholes about being a ~Feminist Show~ and âguys itâs totally different weâre not like GOT ok!!!â yet because HOTD functions as a prequel to GOT it just makes it seem even more hollow and sexist. Like âoh gee Rhaenyra it sucks that they stole your crown and birthright for being a womanâŚtoo bad that hundreds of years later the same thing will happen to your granddaughter who will lose everything and everyone she loves and suffer just as much abuse and mistreatment as you had, while a man takes everything from her and villainizes her just like they did to you /:â I canât imagine being content with that lol thatâs why I read the books
EMILIA CLARKE QUOTES THAT ALIGN WITH BOOK!DANYâS CHARACTERIZATION AND/OR GEORGE R. R. MARTINâS INTERVIEWS
+ bonus:
â Inside HBOâs Game of Thrones: Seasons 1 & 2
dany stans are obsessed with us â cabbage brained illiterate jonsas
literally them â
I was reading reviews for the new Witcher season and I came upon this got comparison:
I hate what game of thrones final season did to Dany and her development. Thanks to their awful writing, she's remembered as the queen whose good intentions lead to bad actions. Which is injust to Dany's character in the books who is nothing like she's portrayed on the season 8.
D&D: There was something cHIiLLiNG about the way Dany watched Viserys die.
Us, having war flashbacks about Jaime throwing Bran out a window, Arya cooking the Freys into pies, Tyrion strangling Shae, Sansa feeding Ramsay to the hounds, Jon executing Olly:
"sansa didnât trust daenerys bc she was a stranger" is such a bullshit. sansa didnât know most of the people in the north personally "oh but they from the north" yeah boltons were too. "dhe was foreign, not really westerosi, raised and lived among barbarian people" oh good thing westerosi like littlefinger, lannisters etc were so well behaved and kind. sansa also didnât have nothing really against wildings "oh but jon trusted them" so just like he trusted daenerys?
the only problem sansa had with daenerys was that she couldn't control her bc she was lower in the hierarchy and also it meant she looses any control over the north she had. that's it.
Why is Jorah on your shit list?
1) Almost 50 yrs old and is sexually attracted to a 13 yr old Daenerys, going as far as to force a kiss on her while sheâs naked
2) Feels entitled to Danyâs love and affection, that she owes him for all that heâs done for her
3) The whole reason behind his exile was that he was attempted to sell people into slavery so he can fund his wifeâs spending habits
4) in short, he is a nasty old man with a gross obsession with a teenaged girl and he sees himself as the victim of the made-up relationship he imagined between himself and Dany
MAIN CLUES THAT POINT TO DAENERYS TARGARYEN AS AZOR AHAI/PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED
GRRM: Fire is love, fire is passion, fire is sexual ardor and all of these things. Ice is betrayal, ice is revenge, ice is⌠you know, that kind of cold inhumanity and all that stuff is being played out in the books.
~
GRRM: Well, of course, the two outlying ones â the things going on north of the Wall, and Daenerys Targaryen on the other continent with her dragons â are of course the ice and fire. of the title, âA Song of Ice and Fire.â
~
Viserys I on House of the Dragon [note that Aegon Iâs prophecy came from GRRM himself]: Aegon saw absolute darkness riding on those winds, and whatever dwells within will destroy the world of the living. When this great winter comes, Rhaenyra, all of Westeros must stand against it. And if the world of men is to survive, a Targaryen must be seated on the Iron Throne. A king or queen strong enough to unite the realm against the cold and the dark. Aegon called his dream âThe Song of Ice and Fire.â
+ bonus:
In a Game of Thrones video about the religions of Westeros, GRRM confirmed that Azor Ahai and Prince that Was Promised are one and the same (and not two different prophecies about two different saviors) when he says that the prince that was promised will receive Lightbringer as a token from R'hllor. Hence why the gifset collects evidence showing that Dany is Azor Ahai and Prince That Was Promised.
D&D confirmed in Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon: Game of Thrones and the Unofficial Untold Story of the Epic Series that show!Arya killing the Night King was an original, last minute decision made for the sake of shock value that 1) highlights how fickle they were (since they even considered to have a non-POV character like Sandor Clegane save the day) and 2) will have no bearing on the ASOIAF books. This is especially interesting considering 1) the fact that Jon killing Dany was also D&Dâs idea, 2) the book foreshadowing for Dany being AA/PTWP, 3) GRRM having previously disproven a theory about Dany burning a place and suggesting that sheâs not involved in the second dance of the dragons (which makes it unlikely that she will ever burn KL in the books) and 4) GRRM saying that heâs moving forward with his 1991 ending (which is noteworthy because Dany survives in his 1993 outline). All in all, every book related evidence suggests that Dany will continue to be written as a heroic figure in A Song of Ice and Fire.
Sheâs littleâŚbut sheâs strong.
hold on hold on hold on i am thinking SO many thoughts right now
hold on hold on hold on i am thinking SO many thoughts right now
DAENERYS TARGARYEN APPRECIATION 2018 HOME: That was when they lived in Braavos, in the big house with the red door. Dany had her own room there, with a lemon tree outside her window. After Ser Willem had died, the servants had stolen what little money they had left, and soon after they had been put out of the big house. Dany had cried when the red door closed behind them forever.
All that Daenerys wanted back was the big house with the red door, the lemon tree outside her window, the childhood she had never known.